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As I stated in said thread, it has nothing to do with his supposed "leech status" and everything to do with his demeanor.
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You've yet to even provide contextual evidence to support you opinion, though none is necessarily needed for you to feel the way you do, that's a choice. I don't mind, assumed that you had, stated it out loud to hopefully get a dialogue going to perhaps alleviate the negative notions you're getting from the why my text comes across. But so far, you've said nothing and that's not easy to work with.
Maybe people would care to heed your words if they weren't so obtuse from the start.
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A child may ask, "What is the world's story about?" And a grown man or woman may wonder, "What way will the world go? How does it end and, while we're at it, what's the story about?"
I believe that there is one story in the world, and only one, that has frightened and inspired us, so that we live in a Peral White serial of continuing thought and wonder. Humans are caught - in their lives, in their thoughts, in their hungers and ambitions, in their avarice and cruelty, and in their kindness and generosity too - in a net of good and evil. I think this is the only story we have and that it occurs on all levels of feeling and intelligence. Virtue and vice were warp and woof of our first consciousness, and they will be the fabric of our last, and this despite any changes we may impose on river and mountain, on economy and manners. There is no other story. A man, after he has brushed off the dust and chips of his life, will have only the hard, clean questions: Was it good or was it evil? Have I done well - or ill?...
...And in our time, when a man dies - if he has had wealth and influence and power and all the vestments that arouse envy, and after the living take stock of the dead man's property and his eminence and works and monuments - the question is still there: Was his life good or was it evil? - which is another way of putting Croesus's question. Envies are gone, and the measuring stick is: "Was he loved or was he hated? Is his death felt as a loss or does a kind of joy come from it?"
I remember clearly the deaths of three men. One was the richest man of the century, who, having clawed his way to wealth through the souls and bodies of men, spent many years trying to buy back the love he had forfeited and by that process performed great service to the world and, perhaps, had much more than balanced the evils of his rise. I was on a ship when he died. The news was posted on the bulletin board, and nearly everyone received the news with pleasure. Several said, "Thank God that son of a bitch is dead."
There was a man, smart as Satan, who, lacking some perception of human dignity and knowing all too well every aspect of human weakness and wickedness, used his special knowledge to warp men, to buy men, to bribe and threaten and seduce until he found himself in a position of great power. He clothed his motives in the name of virtue, and I have wondered whether he knew that no gift will ever buy back a man's love when you have removed his self-love. A bribed man can only hate his briber. When this man died the nation rang with praise and, just beneath, with gladness that he was dead.
There was a third man, who perhaps made many errors in performance but whose effective life was devoted to making men brave and dignified and good in a time when they were poor and frightened and when ugly forces were loose in the world to utilize those fears. This man was hated by the few. When he died the people burst into tears in the streets and their minds wailed, "What can we do now? How can we go on without him?"
In uncertainty I am certain that underneath their topmost layers of frailty men want to be good and want to be loved. Indeed, most of their vices are attempted short cuts to love. When a man comes to die, no matter what his talents and influence and genius, if he dies unloved his life must be a failure to him and his dying a cold horror. It seems to me that if you or I must choose between two courses of thought or action, we should remember our dying and try to live that our death brings no pleasure to the world.
We have only one story. All novels, all poetry, are built on the never-ending contest in ourselves of good and evil. And it occurs to me that evil must constantly respawn, while good, while virtue, is immortal. Vice has always a new fresh young face, while virtue is venerable as nothing else in the world is.
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+80 million points for quoting Steinbeck.
(I'm a fan 👍)
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Doesn't a debate normally involve a series of arguments for and against a proposition?
Nah homie, we don't play that around here: https://www.steamgifts.com/discussions/search?q=the%20ultimate%20debate
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"Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of fucking fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself.
Choose your future.
Choose life."
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He did not care anymore. Life and death - the same. Only that the crowd would be there to greet him with howls of lust and fury. He began to realize his sense of worth. He mattered. In time, his victories could not easily be counted. He was taken to the east, a great prize, where the war masters would teach him the deepest secrets. Language and writing were also made available, the poetry of Khitai, the philosophy of Sung; and he also came to know the pleasures of women, when he was bred to the finest stock. But always, there remained the discipline of steel.
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Depression likes to tell me death is the way.
So leaning towards that tbh
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I visit that thread and positive thinking often :'))
Thanks
/hug
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Know these feelings..
They never leave you.
Took a dozen of years of any kind of drugs - they worked perfectly for tons of issues, but still I'm struggling with chronic depression and bpd.. I think.
Doctors both in Northern Italy and Switzerland were always awesome for me at least, but.. there's a point that no one but you can go through and beyond.
I'm sending all my positive wishes to you and your struggle <3 We're forced to take control of something that no one but ourselves can do. Doctors, medicines, friends, loved ones can help a lot, but we're always the most important one for ourselves.
Hugs <3
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They never leave you.
imo, they only seems/look like 100% real, but they will leave you.
hide your avatar for a moment, and look what you're doing/trying to do here (and elsewhere). to my eyes, you're trying to give hope, empathy. and doesn't taste as "death".
we already chatted a little about this, iirc.
but now, re-reading this comment of yours, i've noticed an "i think" :)
even if you see me excluding you from my lists, you've got a special place, elsewhere. a slightly more important place than a list.
and now, Ale and all: let's have some fun for the rest of this week, the one that will follow, and so on... :P
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Death doesn't exists.
Thank you pal for the giveaways. =D
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I'd love to see them all someday u.u' since.. we had like 10-11 english setters and hunting dogs in general at a time.. i'll meet them again sometimes ;)
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Here at home we have 5 dogs (English bulldog, sharpei, pug, shih-tzu) alive (in this "dimension" hehe). We also have many pets on the other side ...
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