How will you vote for G2A Land?
G2A Dev Says: We are a marketplace on which you can sell keys for games – we do not sell the games themselves. We are not a distribution platform, and we do not generate keys. We will be very happy, once the keys are out there, if people sell our own game on our own marketplace for whatever price they choose.
lol
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"our own marketplace" That is the key, are they willing to have it sold on other sites?
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If they do not generate keys, then there are no keys for it! Humble, Gala, etc. get their keys from the Dev who generates them from Steam. Steam doesn't just randomly hand the keys out on mass on their own.
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That's an actual response written by a dev in their GL forum. lol
I think he was talking about G2A in regards to the games they sell, instead of the ones they'll develop.
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Translation: We make money of the people that use our site, so please use our site.
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According to his logic, 26% of us are insane! Actually sounds about right to me xD
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O/ :)
Thou to continue the discussion above. G2A are basically banned from steam and were blacklisted by the filter. They donated 100$ to charity to get greenlight access. Knowing this why would anyone vote "yes"? This is without considering the shady stuff going on in the g2a store... They probably want to be the 2nd Digital Homocide company...
They also indirectly advertise the store by adding the logo in a lot of objects (check the video).
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Pretty much this. A bit pathetic that they couldn't be a bit more subtle about their 'product placement', but then again subtlety isn't exactly G2A's strong suite...
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I see, its one of those third party wii games, but has a brainwashing tool for your kids, wait Oh my gosh, they called it G2A! Has if the logo wasnt everywhere already
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Looks actually quite nice to me. But yes, I understand all the hate against g2a...
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This is so cringe to watch. Not the game, this thread.
Why is it bad that G2A has made a game? Seriously.
Why are we against the free market all of a sudden? People want no censorship, now they're stirring it up so their fragile little memes are fulfilled.
It's good to hate, as long as it's that one guy that we don't like. Otherwise it's awful.
The game doesn't look bad. Looks better than most stuff. You're saying no because of its look. Pathetic... just pathetic.
(Obligatory disclaimer: Just because I'm not against them, doesn't mean that I'm against you or with them...)
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Seems to me there is no actual gameplay, but a couple sets for you to test your expensive headset.
Back in the day, there was a Disney imaginary roller coaster ride for PC, but they actually let you construct the ride
I would also be agaisnt it if lets say EA would put their logo everywhere in their games, from cars, to weapons to peoples foreheads. There are ways to do business and using the work of these developers to plaster your name around isnt one of them...which brings me back again on how they take advantage of everything
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you mean like... fifa?
in-game advertising is not a new thing and was in maaaany games before.
And tbh. this looks better than 75% of the VR-Stuff and the Greenlightstuff together.
And because it is advertising prob. it will be free (or super cheap).
In any way: I don't care about VR at all :D
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I had no idea FIFA had self advertising, it makes no sense to me when you actually need publicity to pay for the license.
In any case, publicity in sports games are similar to the real world
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Just making sure you knew: FIFA, and other sports games, are [unfortunately] the highest-grossing genre of games.
Sports games are themselves just in-depth advertisements for players, teams, companies, etc.
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One of the...yes, on console, to a niche group of players that buy it every year. You can also cut some costs by releasing a very similar game every time.
Well as long as they keep extending that license, PES will always fall behind.
I still think its more unbelieve that they release it every year, rather than the usage of ads, since real events have the as well.
Though i am surpised to see EA ads in a game, rather then during the real match
but, i dont play FIFA, doubt most people here do...so i dont really find a proper time to criticize it
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Okay, I totally understand the lack of gameplay, but what I meant was that it just looks way better than most stuff on Greenlight.
It looks like the average VR game with prettier graphics. Some different abilities and that's it.
As to in-game advertising... oh boy. Payday 2, CS:GO, FIFA, NFL, NBA, Madden, Simcity, Need for Speed, Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 (which, incidentally is the good version of that game that you described), SWAT 4, most mobile games, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Dead Rising 2, Burnout Paradise (With a damn political ad. Obama's, if you were interested), Forza 3, various CoD games. Plus, the 3DMark software.
Those were the ones I remembered. The thing is, those games had various degrees of advertising, some of which (like FIFA and NFS) were extremely invasive and probably worse than the G2A one will be. Yet, people were fine with them, because in the end, it's what gives the games enough money. I doubt that you're a sheep that'll be enticed by a simple ad.
But as to taking advantage of everything, I get it. G2A is a business first. Same can and should be said about almost every publisher.
Name me a AAA publisher that'd care about something like that. A publisher, that wouldn't be out there to make money and is willing to go in debt to just make games. Those people don't really exist. G2A is pretty much Valve now. They started making their storefront and boom, they've become awful. Shitty hats and bad service. It just happens.
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Hmm...some things i need to make clear.
-I was talking about self advertasing, not publicity
-Quantity, which ive never seen so many, except for the FIFA picture above ( i dont play fifa, so i didnt know)
Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 (which, incidentally is the good version of that game that you described
The game i described was from 2001 and there where older version of that
-Cant really say Sport games are ivasive with ads, when they operate similar to the real event.And yes, the difference here is that sport games need to pay licenses. Not that it should be acceptable
And yes, most of the biggest business out there, have done much worse. Even Nintendo has been pretty scummy in the past.
Whenever they make a bad decision again, we will be here to criticize them. Rather than pretending not to see it.
In the end, that was what greenlight was for: you click yes or no, depending on whether you think you would appreciate the product.
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So you think this kind of unsolicited and aggressive advertising is acceptable on Steam?
Zeruel. when we are all playing Mc Donalds land, and The Adventures of S8, The Quest for The Samsung Galaxy. I'm going to hold you personally responsible Okay? :)
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I think you know what you've gotten yourself into, once you go into a game called "G2A Land"...
But if you don't want advertising, then don't play Team Fortress 2. You know, the game that was made to push Steam... you know, a storefront. But, of course, this is fine, since it's Valve and they're much better. (They're not, by the way. They seem to break more laws than G2A, like the caching incident.)
It's nice to see that you think I'm that powerful though :D
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Because G2A is a company founded on shady practices and illegal reselling. They are attempting to leave this image behind without taking any responsibility for it, and some people aren't okay with that.
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I agree g2a does have shady practices. (like that 'shield' thing without doubt; and legally selling keys provided by devs/pubs from 'free' promotions [i'll remind everyone, it is legal to sell stuff you legally own, even if said stuff was legally optained for free]).
But I have to disagree on 'g2a illegally reselling' since it is a marketplace, were it is some bad users doing the illegal selling.
(and... if by chance g2a actually does directly sell anything themselves [example: g2a monthly bundle], I would hope g2a would be smart and not use a user as a source of the keys, and instead only use devs/pubs as the source of the keys)
For sure g2a has handed all of this really really badly!
G2A can and should be more stringent on their seller sign up process, to help combat bad sellers.
^that could lower the amount of fraudulent sellers by a huge margin. (sadly this will not combat fraudulent buyers).
^then again, stealing identities is just as easy, as mine was stolen on more then two occasions.
G2A should never of had that 'shield' thing, and they should completely remove it.
G2A should also stop having the buyers directly cover the payment processing fee.
All stores have to deal with fraud, digital stores even more so,.... and market places even more so.
Finally, lets not forget the criminal devs/pubs that abuse their position/tools to remove legally obtained keys, regardless of whatever reason they think gives them the right to.
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You a free to disagree, but that doesn't change history.
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I do hope that you have the same disdain for Steam's paid mods, lack of refunding policies, the caching problem (which resulted in leaked information), the failing curator system, Greenlight, the dated client that doesn't work well.
These are all things that Valve has done, that they've never apologized for. Two of those things were illegal (caching and no refunding).
G2A had an issue of illegal resellers. Now there's a rigorous verification system with the need for actual identification after 5 sales. Personal info, bank details and so on. I don't think they apologized for it, so it's not like it's just "water under the bridge".
G2A Shield's a fucked problem still, I agree. They need to fix it.
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Of course I do, shitty practices are shitty practices.
The thing about G2A is they knowingly created a place for illegal resellers to thrive AND practiced their own shady antics with shield. Distancing themselves from it now, after they have profited from it mightily, reeks of hypocrisy in the highest degree. It's akin to the Kennedy family founding their fortune on bootlegging during prohibition. It's absolute bullshit and it's not okay.
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of course it doesn't look terrible, it's on a predefined path, it requires no input from the player
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I agree with your reply to the previous poster (looks more like a way to test an expensive headset than a game), but even so it looks surprisingly polished.
I wouldn't buy it (not that I have a VR headset anyway), but more interesting than the software itself is going to be seeing how (and if) Valve responds to it.
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But it looks nice. Why shouldn't people vote for it? o.O I wish it wouldn't be only for VR. :(
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Looks far more better than the usual trash that is approved through Greenlight.
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Getting really fucking tired of this G2A hate. It's the exact same as Ebay. If someone stole a tv and tried to sell it at your local open-air market would you be asshats about local markets? Doubtful.
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The shield is a complete scumbag tactic I couldn't agree more with that.
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It doesn't look bad at all, I knew G2A wanted to go legit but this is kind of an unexpected move. I don't know how Valve will react ifwhen it gets greenlit (or greenlighted?) but I don't see them refusing to accept the game as long as G2A follows the rules inside steam.
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So, I've not seen this posted on the forums yet, so I'm not sure how many people know about it. But it seems G2A have a VR game on Greenlight called G2A Land.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=855190283
I'm very interested to see what Valve says and does about this game and if they are willing to enter into a business contract with G2A considering their website is banned by Steam's link filter for fraudulent activity. O.o
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