Destiny 2 will be exclusive to Battle.net on PC... What are your thoughts?
Depends on whether it will take around a year for the game to stop being shit like the first one or not. (I am not expecting them to save some of the money they bought the GOTY "awards" with last time to invest in proper balancing and finding someone who can actually write a story and not just three tomes worth of lore with zero context.)
Then again, Battle.net users are even more fanatic than Steam groupies, so I guess for quite a few buyers it will not be a problem.
Of course, these are still just minor points besides the real question: will they pay Peter Dinklage enough money this time for him to give a fuck about the voice recording session or will he just make one take again of all lines and run away as fast as he can?
On a related note, I am surprised Activision haven't tried to pull all CoD from Steam and put them up on battle.net only. I guess they are worried that Blizzard really can buy itself out soon?
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they plan to make an offline status in the future thay talked about this, its just a not big deal atm since no matter the status if you play lets play wow or diablo a friend who cant see you on battlenet will be able to see you online if they log in the same game. Dont worry tho its comming
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yeah you know how they are, i have an idea lets announce it and then 3-4 years later there you go
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I know Blizz is slow when it comes to this stuff... but honestly, I don't think it's ever coming.
They did announce it years ago (back in 2012), but then a Blizzard dev stated on Twitter that when they looked into it, turns out it was a more work then they expected. So they scrapped the idea (put it on the "backburner" as he put it).
Basically, instead of doing it like other services does - where the friend service runs in the background and tells the game what's going on, they did the opposite. Every game has it's own implementation of Battle.net, which means every single game needs to be updated and changed in order for this to become a reality. That's a lot of separate dev teams that has to co-ordinate and update their (now decades old) games accordingly. They need to put in some serious time and resources for this to ever happen.
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It will sell like crazy thanks for Blizz fanboys. Good for them I guess. Saying this as a 10 year former WoW player, so no hate intended.
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Not a fan of platform exclusives.
Wonders why they use Steam...
Plot twist...
So you would rather have it be on Steam and be as busted as Uplay is?Hey look my friend is playing The Division...cool I will join his game...crap I have to load Uplay and the game before I can join.I can not join directly.
Yes I sure want more games on Steam it's so much easier!You even have to add friend's within Uplay no way of adding them on Steam without doing it manually.It's a mess and why I will not be buying anymore Uplay games on Steam!
I imagine battle.net would pretty much be the same way.Steam would just be a glorified launcher.When adding it as a non steam game will have the same effect but without all the added headache.
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This surprised the hell out me lol. With it being on Blizzard's launcher it will definitely have lots of sales and people playing it. Blizzard just has that kind of impact on the gaming industry where they attract huge numbers. With Destiny 2 being on there it will also get the proper attention, updates, etc. etc. it needs. Like everything it will have it's share of people who like and don't like this idea but hopefully it will a positive experience.
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I mean, I don't like steam, but Blizzard ain't much better.
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Groupess I guess? Gamespy was great. Steam has some benefits to it but also some negatives imo. The negitives make me dislike it but the positives I haven't really found a comparable service for so I still use steam mostly.
And Battle.net aint that bad honestly, I guess I'm just salty about name changing and blizzard fanboys.
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In a perfect world there would be free competition between several distribution platforms, maybe even a service to transfer your games from service A to service B. In reality, there's a lot of platform exclusives - in the end you have like, what, five or even more clients installed, just to handle the different DRMs. I can understand if they want to publish their stuff somewhere else, other than Steam: monopolies are bad, but a new client every time isn't exactly the solution either. Lucky for me in this case, I couldn't care less about that game.
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i see it exactly like you. i really don´t want to install this many clients. concole-exclusives or origin-exclusives i had to skip for years. besides steam i only have battlenet installed, blizzard games are just too good to skip, have only a hand full of games there and play theese 100times more than my steam-library :D ;)
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Oh? Care to enlighten me, which Blizzard games are just too good to skip? That's an honest question, no criticism intended. I simply haven't kept track with what kind of games they even got. I used to play Diablo2 - decades ago ... just single player/story mode - no crazy multiplayer gear farming or anything like that. When Diablo 3 came out, I read it has even more focus on multiplayer, so I skipped it. I don't like multiplayer. I have about 200 games on Steam and a few on Origin. No problems with Origin, don't know why everyone hates it so much. Uplay on the other hand, I bought one Uplay game (Anno 2070), years ago on Steam, when I didn't even know that it's for a different service and I always have trouble with their client updating and stuff, that's why I basically don't play it anymore and avoid Uplay products from now on (which isn't hard, since they don't have anything I like anyway). Again, in a perfect world I could just buy my games where I like and move them to my preferred platform.
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Origin is hated because EA and not being Steam, also EA having their games there and not on Steam. It even has superior support to Steam so... Bnet is "good" because it's a flocking space of various Blizzard fans, so ofc they can only talk good about it. Origing and Bnet are both owned by a single company that are very fisty with their discounts - from an average customer's standpoint the two platforms are very much alike.
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Well, you have a point with discounts ... some of their games are severely overpriced and it's hard to get a decent discount. Hard, but not impossible, though (they also have keys and there's legit resellers, e.g. Amazon). Other than that, their service works, technically. They even offer 2FA via SMS, which is good for me, because I don't have or want a smartphone (I know that SMS is not the most advanced thing ever when it comes to security, but it's better than Steam's mobile-only or no security all approach). They also have some free classics on the house from time to time (compared to L4D2 being the only thing I got free from Valve... and that's years ago). Again, I'm not a fan of having a new DRM for each game. But, at least they got the decency to keep off their Origin exclusives from Steam, unlike Ubi, where you can buy stuff and only learn later that it's for Uplay.
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Well, if Blizz endorse them, then I guess they have the confidence that the game will sell. Haven't played the first but I guess I'll be giving this one a shot.
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i bet destiny is gonna steal some players of overwatch
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Destiny 2 will be massive on PC and it will make Battle.net (or whatever it's called now) an even bigger force to be reckoned with.
And these are called speculations. There is nothing to be reckoned with in a self-contained system. People who want to play those games go there, who doesn't, they won't.
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I'm thinking the competition will be good to make other services like Steam better.
While the general concept is hard to disagree with, the Blizzard app at the moment is very limited and doesn't work as well as the Steam client.
I think on the whole it's just Blizzard is so big and designs games around player retention (what I would otherwise call "players that are married to a single game") and Battle.net lets them sell their games without having to share space with other titles on GabeN's Infinite Shelf.
This is a pretty good idea when, for instance, Diablo 3 + RoS costs €20 on sale, and basically all Diablolikes on Steam are far cheaper.
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They are both owned by Activision Blizzard which is their parent company , but they are not the same company
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To be fair i couldnt care less .
First game was boring as fuck , so i have no expectations about the second one being any good either .
Having some form of competition is always nice i guess , but to be fair Blizzard are just running their own ecosystem with their own games so i cant see them as a competitor to steam , which gets flooded with all kinds of games and seem to be trying to sell literally everything nowadays .
So even if destiny is massive on pc which i honestly doubt will last for long even if it did , that doesnt mean that it will somehow make the blizzard client a force to be reckoned with , it will just make people use it to play .. A game , while steam will still be the platform /client most people go to for variety gaming .
The main reason i say that is , that if only cause you got a popular game on your client made it a force to be reckoned with , stuff like NCSofts Client and Aeria Ignite would also technically be forces to be reckoned with . cause they are still running a bunch of stuff that has quite solid playerbase >.>
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Yes, more competition for Steam is a good thing. I'm not a massive fan of the current battle.net client, but I stand by what I've said in the past, Valve needs more competition. Although I'm not sure if Battle.net is really in a position where they'll offer more competition, their client has too few games.
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I'm thinking the competition will be good to make other services like Steam better. Destiny 2 will be massive on PC and it will make Battle.net (or whatever it's called now) an even bigger force to be reckoned with.
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