Well, i think this makes sense.
I lived that and i think this is an important sickness actually. Because it affects every aspect of your life and problems growing each day if you can't stop yourself, which is hard.
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It's true. A friend of mine had a problem with this. He lost his job and everything. He's fine now and back working, but for a while, he was super depressed that gaming had basically taken up his entire social life. He lost his job because of the late nights playing games. It was a real addiction and it took some time to overcome.
Everything is good in moderation, just like candy. Eat too much and you get fat. A little makes you happy. lol.
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him just wrong work if him work at sexylady sexyclub him can do sex,play games,late night and no one will make him lose job,easy,and will have mooore more social very intense and hard deep learning social interaction too....
p.s. i eat 9999 candies all days i never get fat https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7iIslhWwAE__eo.jpg ! [Cat=^_^= meaooooo FF FF F!!! FFF!] (http://i.imgur.com/rtO99ej.jpg)
p.s.s. humans born for live,not for be moderated,for be moderated we will have more time after life...
p.s.s.s. i feel pipi'.
p.s.s.s.s i'm lazy change link.
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if play sea of thieves and i see a penguin at sahara desert with the agility of a lame camel at north pole but other players say not see but you see yes maybe is problem then.
p.s. also santa claus at gtav happen too,then yes issue , maybe better stop drink strawberry juicy juice.
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one time one i do accident for watch some people because i think they sell drugs but after i see they sell potatoes hahaha then i hit road hahaha , but is ok , potatoes for freeeee , potatoe
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i mean there are people who ignore family for work. everyone has addictions its about controlling and regulating them but the sad part is it's mainly in that persons hands.
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unluckily I'm not that able to write down Polish (I'm way more fluent in Ukrainian.. spoken, too xD) but I think that some kind of translation from Italian would be "muszę siku", don't ask me why though..
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They is just salty because the videogame nuclearwar for amiga500 miss KimTrow4MissilesonSeaofJapaneJonTravoltaJoungsomuchordered in the character selection menu,so they try put news for people think about this and update the game with new pay-dlcs for amiga on floppy and release new hacked devices for speedup floppy read and sell it with amigaboo statues nintentoys.amen.
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It's just a manifestation of addiction or obsessive compulsion. But maybe this will open up the door to more and more serious talk about the purposely addictive properties of the gambling and instant-gratification features.
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I seem to recall watching a documentary about how the gaming industry studies casino games and implement some of the most addictive features there into their games. I'm not sure if I can find the link to that YouTube video because I have no idea what the title is - it was a long time ago - but here's an article for those interested: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-13/video-game-addiction-how-the-industry-is-learning-from-casinos/8941114
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I've been "addicted" (depends how you define it) to gaming for many years. It's given me a lot of joy, even when I've found almost no joy elsewhere. It's made me interact with other people, instead of being alone almost all the time. My problem was never gaming, my problem was always a total lack of motivation, in addition to a lack of dopamine, because of my ADD, which I found out about very late. If I didn't have gaming to go to for keeping myself distracted from my struggles in life, I would have looked for something else that raises dopamine levels. I could have ended up as a drug addict, for instance, which would have been so much worse.
Just sharing my personal experience. I know that there are people out there who have jobs, husbands, wives, kids, etc, that are susceptible to gaming addiction and that can be a harmful thing.
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that's not addiction. Addiction would be compulsive gaming despite harmful consequence.
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I didn't say there are no harmful consequences. There certainly are. I live an isolated life, I'm less inclined to be social (now that the worst of my social anxiety is gone, I wish I were more social)... I've become highly dependant on instant gratification... Those are just a few examples, there are more.
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But without the gaming, you would also be alone, the gaming didn't change that, the gaming happened BECAUSE of that and if it wasn't the gaming, it would have been something else
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This is where my uncertainty on whether it's an addiction for me or not comes in. I'm not expecting anyone here to give a definitive answer for me, because it's complicated. It could be an addiction - I'm spending most of my time in front of my computer, even though I know it's in my best interest to focus more on other things. (I'm purposefully being vague, because I'm getting my point across without details.) It could also just be my lack of motivation that's to blame entirely.
What I was trying to say is that gaming started off as something very positive for my well being - it gave me things I was lacking because of my hardships in life. It stimulated my brain, it motivated me (not to do other things though), it gave me dopamine and joy... But then it became addictive, and it MIGHT have made me lose interest in everything else. I say "might" because I was already in a bad place, so it's hard for me to say. But there has been done many studies on how gaming changes your brain and from what I remember, the consensus was that there are similarities to other addictive disorders. What I can say for sure is that I had a very strong desire to play video games, to the point that I stopped taking care of myself. That desire isn't as strong today, though. But it's still something I want to do and enjoy doing. Today I don't really feel that addicted, I mostly just struggle with finding motivation to do other things, with good reasons - not because of too low self confidence.
So, to clear up my first comment - "my problem was never gaming"... Well, maybe it was part of the problem in my past.
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I think I get what you mean, because of my problems and lack of social life, my life is behind a pc, which can be fine, or is bad, depending how you look at it. In this stadium I am so bad that I can't even motivate myself to play games even though I love playing games (or watch anime for that matter) so in the end most of my times I waste on just staring at my screen not even sure what I do or did.
Is that an addiction? don't think so because I can be without my pc, last week I was on vacation, we did bring a laptop but I wasn't on it that much, it was a choice and if I have nothing else to do or can't get myself to do anything else, I will end up behind my pc, simple as that. Sometimes it's hard to say when something turns into an addiction or not, some say that if you can just stop or skip it for a day or longer, it's not an addiction, some say there is more involved, all I know is that everyone has their own hobbies and for some the real world just sucks and the online/gaming world is so much more fun so I can understand them wanting to be there and that's fine, just figure out the fine line because in the end real life is more important even when many people don't see it like that.
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Nah, I doubt it was gaming.
In my past I gamed a lot and wasn't social, had depression etc.
Now I barely got time to game, due to being older and having a daughter... and etill zero social interest, depression etc.
It's cause+effect. Blaming it all on gaming is blaming the effect and ignore the cause. But that's all the rage now.
If I didn't have gaming as outlet I probably would be long dead by now. Such a terrible thing, right?
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It's called addiction and it can affect MANY things..... -_-
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If you can't trust the voices in your own head, who can you trust?
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I hope that there isn't a creep that say that gaming addiction can be cured with MMS.
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Nah, but I am sure that some MLM scheme will come up with essential oils that can cure gaming addiction.
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It's funny you said that, I'm a Massage Therapist and I use essential oils. =D
Not for curing people, of couse.
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Heard about that like two months ago. Why can't they work on actual illnesses like maybe involving body mutilations?
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like Body Dysmorphia? That's been classified as a dsease since DSM IV in 1994
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I am sure there are more since then, as people are creative.
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I heard the WHO passed legislation saying that body mutilations, sterilization, and other mentally unsound actions related to gender identity disorder, no longer count as a mental health disorder. honk f***ing honk
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Soo, now for playing games i will have a chance to get drugs?
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just to be clear, gaming in and of itself is not a disorder, just like drinking alcohol is not a disorder.
Gaming disorder is when your gaming is so out of hand it is destructive to your normal life, just like alcoholism is when your alcohol consumption is destructive to your normal life.
It's a matter of degrees. Most gamers do not have gaming disorder, just like most drinkers are not alcoholics and most gamblers do not have a gambling addiction.
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Exactly. Nobody is saying games are drugs. Just that some people, who most likely already have addictive personalities, or a family history of addiction, can get into serious trouble due to their addiction and lack of impulse control.
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Game addiction?
Another name is "I have no work in that area".
No, only "psychiatry" will create jobs with this decision.lol
Blinded from "the reality" in political circumstances and concession circumstances.
If interests are good, it will only paraphrase to different names.
Employment conversion from humanity to machinery🤖
Concentration of wealth from humanity to pigs🐷
Pig controls the machine🐷💻
Eradicate humanity from hunger and confusion👾
Wealth is scary💰
Do you repeat the history of the mechanical destruction movement? Is the police, the army, the government the 🐷 side?
And people run away from the place. However, the destination was the country of 🐷.
That way, they will be called out as criminals and be eliminated from the world.
This star is a "pig-dominated game". To overturn the chessboard, we need to change the value of the wealth.
It is better to worry about the future with this “association game” full of creativity and delusions.😋
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Lots of research lately regarding how video games affect our brains, and not only concerning addictive behaviors, but also other cognitive and even physiological changes - with some being positive, and some negative. No doubt there will be even more now.
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I don't think any kind of addiction is something to make light of. It's a serious disease whether you're addicted to Ikea or blueberries.
The addiction is the issue, not the hook. Sure a drug addiction will kill you faster but any overwhelming lack of impulse control can ruin your life and the lives of others.
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I wouldn't call it a disorder, but in my case computers in general are my addiction and they take most of my time. My gaming addiction prevent me from achieving goals and things I wanted to do. If I heard this few years ago I would not be able to tell you that I am an addict. I don't play games as I used to but I can't be without computer more than few days. You can call it whatever you want, there is a problem with this. I don't about soccer moms but that sound like you want to use strawman argument to attack something
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if your gaming makes you forget about real world obligations, you're basically sick and have a gaming disorder
I know you're trying to be sarcastic here, but fuck yes you are then. If you regularly act like a literal addict, then you're addicted.
If gaming harms your social life, academical and/or work performance on a regular basis, then odds are you have a problem. Just like you can get addicted to drugs, you can also get addicted to entertainment. This ignorant viewpoint only harms those who actually have a problem. You're not under attack and you're not a victim here. Stop acting like you are. If you think you're a victim, then maybe start assessing your own habits and think whether it actually negatively affects your life or not. There are people who are in real trouble with their lives and mocking the idea that they might need help is painfully ignorant.
and need to pay $$$ for a private clinic somewhere.
I hope it's just a joke. Addiction doesn't need a clinic, but yeah, professional help can help a lot. Psychologists, psychiatrists, GPs and so on. You need them and family/friends.
Watch out kids, your soccer mom is running through the doors to kick Nintendo through the window. Remind her to throw her own tablet with PvZ too
Yeah, if she's addicted, then she needs to get help. Yeah... It's like you've never dealt with an addict before. This is the same narrative as they express. "What, you want to send me away and pump me full of drugs? So, just because I drink a glass of wine every once in a while means I'm an addict now?!? There are people injecting themselves full of drugs in abandoned houses and here you are crying about me having a small drink after a long, stressful day!". It's sad is what it is. False information and ignorance combined with a desperate need for acting like a victim.
I hope you're just joking around and it isn't what you actually are trying to communicate, but there are others who think the same way. It's not healthy to sit on your arse for 10 hours per day, playing games while letting your grades slip further and further into the shitter.
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I'm 50% joking because I know how uninformed parents are going to react after they read sensationalist news in yellow print and how media likes to fear monger. Of course there are some real cases of people who can't control their urges, but that's no different from being addicted to gambling. I'm sure this will lead to certain politicians and scientist and moms trying to put stigma on all gaming, that's why I'm being sarcastic about it being "a real disorder". I don't disagree that certain individuals might need help.
I also agree that compulsive gift giving is a disorder and will write to WHO about it, maybe get it listed.
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I'm 50% joking because I know how uninformed parents are going to react after they read sensationalist news in yellow print and how media likes to fear monger.
You're right. Victims of false information and ignorance.
Of course there are some real cases of people who can't control their urges, but that's no different from being addicted to gambling.
Yes, which is why ludomania is also a categorized illness.
I'm sure this will lead to certain politicians and scientist and moms trying to put stigma on all gaming, that's why I'm being sarcastic about it being "a real disorder".
It's a real disorder. Also, yeah, there will be assholes who will push video games as an evil pastime. By the way, Jack Thompson already exists and he went through his most publicized escapades over a decade ago. Or the drama with DOOM... or Mass Effect... or Dragon Age... or social stigma with FIFA/other sports games. If we're going to always get stuck behind potential lonely bad actors, then start supporting heroin. At least there you have thousands of people and over a trillion dollars behind them. Good luck with that.
I don't disagree that certain individuals might need help.
Which is why these things should be classified. Medical personnel, the ones who actually matter for disorders like this, can actually get some guidance and keep their knowledge up to date. The whole reason why WHO exists is to help people be healthy; mentally and physically.
I also agree that compulsive gift giving is a disorder and will write to WHO about it, maybe get it listed.
You mean narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and the whole "compulsive giving" side effect?
Or you mean actual excessive giving, a problem where people have literally bankrupted themselves? Yeah... anything in excess can harm you. Perhaps it is for the best that we actually advance medicine, yeah.
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I was making a SG joke, but yeah, ...
Yeah... anything in excess can harm you.
True dat.
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Fair enough, I didn't catch the SG joke in anything other than in "I also agree that compulsive gift giving is a disorder and will write to WHO about it, maybe get it listed.", but I'm not good at reading those things :D
Regardless, the vitriol against WHO's decision to include Gaming Disorder as a real disorder is evident in this thread even, so my counter-arguments remain the same, even if you weren't going for what I thought you did.
Thanks for the chat.
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You don't have game disorder when cheating online games?
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Yes,addictive behavior is real. Although games are just being used as scapegoat.
Arguably, social media and television is where you will see most sick people :P
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Because WHO voted to make it real: https://www.cnet.com/news/world-health-organization-deems-gaming-disorder-an-official-illness/
tl,dr; if your gaming makes you forget about real world obligations, you're basically sick and have a gaming disorder and need to pay $$$ for a private clinic somewhere. Watch out kids, your soccer mom is running through the doors to kick Nintendo through the window. Remind her to throw her own tablet with PvZ too ;)
Gaming industry in South Korea apparently mad about this. Others yet to react.
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