"The notalgia Critic" usually does the work for me. Always funny and the videos are a blast.
For videogame i usually watch two best friend play together (go watch the Harry potter kinect video)
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Nanners, Gassy, Chilled, and Sark for the most part. I feel like Diction yells way too much about everything :/
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Those guys are great, agreed diction seems too angry and sham comes off as a dick. Also check out Robbaz!
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Why so butthurt on a single word? I didn't say that the person was retarded, I said the act was retarded
Also don't assume that people who uses the word "Retarded" doesn't have any experience with a family member who is also retarded or mentally challenged.
It also annoy the hell out of me when people doesn't know how to read or gets emotional over something that is so shallow like this.
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I myself knew someone who was retarded, I believe they also had other physical disabilities, all they ever seemd to want when I saw them was a hug, they died in their sleep and it makes me sad every time I think of them.
However I feel you take the term Retarded far too serious, if someone were to call something "Stupid" would you be offended? People use words to describe things and situations, sometimes they exaggerate.
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Even though I don't like LPs, GameGrumps are really funny. It's not even so much about the games they play, I could easily just listen to their crazy conversations and stories without them playing games.
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TOBUSCUS. Haha I definitely see the point about them raising your spirits. I thankfully don't struggle with depression, but whenever I do sink into a sad state for whatever reason, I watch one of Tobe's vids and am as right as rain again. They are just so packed with enthusiasm, energy, and a general sense of happiness. There are so many flavors of these LPers on youtube, so whoever you watch, youtube is a very very nice thing. For me, Pewd just doesn't do it, but a nice mixture of Tobuscus and Markiplier is the best.
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I like him and I find him funny and if alot of people didn't, he wouldn't still be here, kudos to him.
I watch mainly because he does new stuff every time, if I want to watch LPs I just watch Minx, Cry, NerdCubed and for some impressions TotalBiscuit and AngryJoe.
And yes, everybody likes diferent things, if you can't live with that then you're the one with problems.
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Maybe they should learn that there is life outside the internet. Yes you can make friends, but I wouldn't solely make friends using a youtuber as building ground for that friendship. You even got people in this thread debating who's a better LPer than pewds.... Honestly who gives a damn....
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They don't bother me themselves. People are entitled to be/do/say whatever, or at least they're going to act like it, so no sense getting butthurt over it. However, obsessive fanbases who spread uninteresting/annoying stuff like a cancer everywhere including places where no one asked for it and cramming it down your throat, usually with the phrase IT'S THE BEST! are annoying, and need to stop.
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Probably gonna get flamed, but whatever...
Personally, I laughed when I started watching his videos (mainly the older ones). Then the more I watched, the less funny it became.. To the point where it was depressing to watch his videos. To keep it short, bottom line, he's a fucking idiot that can't even play a single game properly, oh, and a large part of his fanbase is composed of white knight kids who'd rage at you for remotely saying anything bad about him. Anyone on my friend list mentions him for any reason - they get the death glare.
puts ultra flame shield on Oh, and nobody should earn money from playing/streaming a game. Especially him. Off the top of my head, he milked Slender so much, I lost count.
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I can't call that work. Quality assurance/playtesting, that's work. These guys are just taking the final product, optionally (but commonly) jabbing a webcam on top of their monitor to record themselves while playing, then recording the gameplay and uploading that to youtube, thinking that's something that takes effort and they deserve to get paid for it. Spoiler: it doesn't, and they don't. If anything, all game developers should follow Nintendo's example. Not to mention that most (again, not all) let's players/streamers are arrogant people who think they're special because of it and should deserve special treatment, all while fakely trying to be funny (and failing at it miserably). And most (once again, not all) "big" youtubers/streamers play the same game just because that's the fad right now, which is currently Walking Simulator 2014, I mean DayZ.
...I didn't even know I can rant for so long. As a closing note, something I missed in my first post about - shudder - pewdiepie. I hate seeing or saying that name so much.
And once again, this is just my opinion, but hey, it's the internet
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Not everyone can do that sucesfully, you need to be as interesting and funny as you can. Also, editing videos takes time.
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If it's just for title text/subtitles/transitions, which is the most common type, hardly. Rendering would take far more time than that kind of editing. As for being interesting and funny, I find most of them try to be funny so hard, they get the opposite effect instead. If it doesn't come naturally, don't try to force it. And worst of all, pretending to care about their fanbase soo much.. they really don't.
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A lot of popular games wouldn't be anywhere near as popular today if it wasn't for YouTube. I know I've personally discovered quite a few great games via Let's Plays. It's not even always games that I haven't heard of, just games I never really considered playing before. So no, it would be a bad idea if every developer tried to discourage Let's Plays just because you don't think LPers deserve money.
"These guys are just taking the final product, optionally (but commonly) jabbing a webcam on top of their monitor to record themselves while playing, then recording the gameplay"
That's like saying all voice actors do is read stuff other people wrote. Sure there's going to be some people out there who get famous for no apparent reason but that happens all over the entertainment industry. It doesn't mean there isn't a ton of people out there putting a ton of effort into their videos. Also, the game isn't the "finished product" that is earning money in Let's Plays. If people just wanted to see the game being played they'd just play the game themselves or watch a video with no commentary.
Also, just to be clear, I've never actually watched pewdiepie. I have, however, watched quite a few skilled Let's Players who probably spend more time working on YouTube than most people do at "real" jobs.
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This pretty much sums up my opinions of Tobuscus and PewDiePie.
Though I'm fine with people getting money from streaming or making videos of gameplay and commentary. Entertainment is entertainment, even strippers and hookers get paid.
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All fandoms are crazy, regardless of the quality of the object of fandom
it's best to make decisions individually
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Indeedy. Let the rich support their devs at full price, and the rest of us buy them on sale and in bundles. :)
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Praised? Fuck no! His content is garbage and we all know why, there is no point stating the obvious again.
Helping kids? Fuck no again! The fact that he is the first thing he found on the Internet doesn't mean HE is doing something good for him. He developed one of the most toxic communities around there. Every entertainer has someone in his audience who's having tough times, it doesn't make them heroes.
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Are you sure the first chocolate/ sushi/ noddle/ any kind of food you ever had was the best you have had or will ever try? No, you cannot be sure of that. And to me, any remedy regardless of how effective it can be is still a remedy. There will come a day the kids outgrow their interest in pewdiepie. For the time being, just let them have fun watching him and no one can stay inside forever watching his vids since he does not make infinite amount of videos.
All I'm saying is that it's still hard to be a young person these days even though we have become so advanced in terms of technology and knowledge. I didn't have a lot of things to hold dear in my childhood except my family (we were flat broke at that time) but I still loved it when I and my mom watched cartoons together and some of them are really bad but I could not comprehend what's bad and good at that time cuz'...that's all I had.
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If your criteria on whether something is good is "it made someone happy", then damn near everything is good. It's a bad criteria. Pewdiepie is an idiot and his content is bad. If people enjoy it, good for them. If it helps bring people together, that's neat. It's still bad content and he's still an idiot.
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I never said anything about Pewdiepie's videos being good. All I've been trying to say that his vids have the potential of helping kids, cheering them up. Also, there's a category called "soooo bad that it's good" for everything including games and movies (for example: the room, friday (the song not the movie)). Sometimes bad things can still make you look on the bright side of life.
If hollywood ever made a Marvel vs DC movie and it turned out to be the biggest poop there ever was, I would still feel subtle happiness and anger simultaneously.
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I guess I misunderstood you then, but my argument applies to this, too. Damn near everything makes SOMEONE feel good, that does not mean that we should praise the people that make those things. A few extreme examples (and I am in no way comparing Pewdiepie to any of these, just using them as extreme examples to show the argument is faulty...) would include the Hitler Youth, suicide cults, the KKK... all these things make the people who join them feel connected to others, and made them happy. That doesn't mean they're good. There are better videos for kids to be watching. If they like pewdiepie, that's fine, I don't begrudge them that, but that doesn't mean that without him they'd dissolve into loneliness... they'd just find something else, hopefully less stupid, to like and be a part of a community over.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions. There have been many situations in my life where I ask how could one possibly like this or that but I'm not going to name call them for it.
Personally, I can't stand pewdiepie, but I don't like mushrooms either yet there are millions if not billions who do.
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"Kids" theese days do the same thing with all this anime stuff. They fool themselves into feeling like they are part of something, they have social interaction, and they make human contact.
BUT
That's bullcrap. It makes them even more anti social and disconnected.
Go out with people who you like, and if you are with the right people you will feel a whole lot better, and won't get depressed, just because you are alienated from even the simplest from of social connectivity, and human contact.
Also quick tip: Don't get antisocial just because you are scared of other people, and don't take pride in being antisocial, and hating others, throwing your life away just because you don't have any friends seems like the most pathetic way to waste a life.
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If it wasn't for the brony community I don't know where I would be today.
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Probably where you are now, except with a vanilla shake instead of whatever it is Pinkie puts in hers.
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+1 to the tip at the bottom, it can become terrible very fast
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Also quick tip: Don't get antisocial just because you are scared of other people, and don't take pride in being antisocial, and hating others, throwing your life away just because you don't have any friends seems like the most pathetic way to waste a life.
harsh and true.
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This is bullcrap. Can you even get any more antisocial? Also I have never met anyone proud of being antisocial, like how would they even show this "pride"?
Honestly, when you're antisocial you don't really care about social interaction and you are more likely to get attached to artificial things (yt channel, games, books etc). At least this is how it works for me. Usually when I get in more or less "long term" contact with someone (meaning I talk to them more often than once a week) I tend to inform them of being antisocial to avoid further unpleasantries (but if it's about people I talk to online I just try to avoid contact if I'm not in talking mood).
"Go out with people who you like, and if you are with the right people you will feel a whole lot better" then what if they are not the right people. Sometimes your only choice of quality companionship is limited to internet (unless you are one of "it didn't happen to me so it's doesn't happen ever" people).
"throwing your life away just because you don't have any friends seems like the most pathetic way to waste a life." so you say that if you are antisocial then your life is going to waste? Sorry to burst your bubble but despite being antisocial I'm doing just fine. Also, like many others I didn't choose it, it's just that some things just happen so you have to learn how to live with them and this is one of them.
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You could change to the better, but you refuse, and when you get close to the why you make up excuse, or fool yourself into "I'm fine" stuff.
I honestly don't care how you, or any antisocial live, what I care about is destroying lifes just because making a friend was too hard seems like the most pathetic thing ever. That's my opinion, nothing more.
Also no1 forces, or wants you to be "like others" but alienating yourself from the true nature of humans, and the rest of the people does not end well. Ever.
Also you might live your life happily alone, -which is fine-, but a lot of people get crippled by depression, and other very serious mental disorders just because they alienated themselves from the very nature of what they are. And all thoose people, and their familys could have been spared from this misery and pain if that person would have been able to talk and make basic human contact with other people.
To me this seems disturbing. That thousands of people lose their life over so simple and bagatelle thing like this, while others have absolutely no choice like cancer and stuff. Just looks plain stupid and sad to me. That's all, no offense intended.
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Yeah, you tell yourself that. "You could change to the better, but you refuse" You can say this to anyone with any problem/disorder and actually believe that what you are saying is true (even if it's not). Well, I make hardly any friends (as I don't count random people I talk to once in a while as my friends) but in the end I end up with ~3 people who really care and can understand that I'm not the usual party person and sometimes it's just better to leave me alone. These people I value the most but sadly there are not so many of them around (and so far I met only 1 person who didn't ever annoy me; and I usually get annoyed if people do as little as try to talk to me when I'm not feeling it so this is quite an achievement). Being antisocial is not an excuse but pretty much a part of character (you know how circumstances shape characters). If for a long period of time you were bullied/separated from people for any reason then you get used to not being around others(In case of being treated badly first you try, grow more and more desperate and try to change yourself yo fit in, then you go depressed because you are so tired of being fake that you just can't take it anymore; if you make it past this, you just give up on people and finally start finding real joy in life). If the time period gets longer you find something to replace the interaction and going back to social life may be difficult as you may find people and their behaviour annoying (and this is when people call themselves antisocial because as I see it "I hate people" could be translated as "people annoy me so much I want to bash their faces in").
I can feel happy only because I came to terms with who I am and how I feel. Before that I tried my best to fit in and make friends and it made me miserable to the point I just wished to die. When I reached "f*** people" level it started getting better. Because if people are worth the bother then they come along anyway. You might see "alienation" as something bad but it's not, at least not for everyone. For people like me it may be the best if not the only way to find people you can be yourself with and that is worth more than thousands of fake friends.
By the way, it's difficult to say anything about "true nature of humans" considering how every person is different and what we need/how we feel about things is defined by so many factors (people we knew, how we were raised, social interaction, what we liked etc). Antisocial people do have social interaction, it's just on different level than you would expect (much less of it, using media to do so because they can not bear face to face conversations). Does this make them weird - no. Does this make them miserable - hell no. You never live your life completely alone unless you live in the middle of a desert and feed of sunlight so at least some of the human factor always is and will be there.
People usually don't alienate themselves for no reason so if the act of it makes them miserable then someone is doing something wrong. The problem is that many people alienate themselves BECAUSE they feel miserable, this is also followed by the feeling that others don't understand you so why bother talking to them. This is a problem and it needs to be taken care of or it may not end well. Just what I'm trying to say it that being antisocial is not the same as alienating yourself (because the second you can clearly see but the first you might not notice unless you see the person every day just because they do good job of keeping it under control/or you just need to be unlucky to find the bad day)
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I don't know but that is probably a way that social media have effects on people from only one side. Sometimes it is good while maybe it has negatives as well.
I watch LP too. Sometimes I watch people playing online to see if games are worth or really appeal to me so I can have fun after buying them. I usually watch trailers and demos first but those are made for people to show how good they are not actual content, so LPs help a lot at this point. I subbed some LP channels but before I buy games, I still randoms search LPs of games...This is all I can tell. I am not one of those people who check their subbed channel everyday to see updates...So...I don't really know...
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As a person who's worked with youtubers in the past, Honestly? You have to remember sometimes, that they are not responsible for every single little thing their fan does. Most youtubers are honestly awesome people in person. Pewdiepie doesn't tell his fans to go to other people and hate on them. If someone does that, don't hate Pewdiepie, hate the guy who's saying that in the first place. Pewdiepie has even made videos in the past discouraging his fans from some of those comments.
The key thing to remember is that their videos don't represent their entire personality, and that their fanbase doesn't represent them either.
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I think Pewdiepie gets too much attention overall, and a lot of it is unjustifiably negative.
I don't watch him all the time, because I have tons of other shit to watch (and do), but I normally enjoy an occasional video of his unless he's exceptionally hyper at the time.
I think he's kinda crazy, but a good enough dude, and he deserves what he can make (legitimately) using the tools at his disposal.
I have no opinion on whether he cheats YouTube or not, as I don't have enough information to make that call (I only bring it up because I think some people had said that in the past, not that I pay much attention).
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That's really the worst thing about him. He lies that he cares about these people to get views, and it's a toxic thing to do because people are going to see through it. It's a fake community where you can high five each other and make all these little references, but in the end Pewdipie can't care about any of his fans as people, and he never can because he doesn't know them.
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You can't really believe that, do you? We're all bros with our lord and savior pewdiepie. Brrooooooofiiiiiiiiissst! :D
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TB is refreshing in that sense... He tells you straight that he doesn't care about you, you are there for him to sell to advertisers and even if you leave there 10 others taking your place ;D
Not that I don't dislike his attitude and way of doing things on social media rather often, but I do have to give for his production qualities at the same time...
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I really do find Total Biscuit interesting. He tells the truth in an age of pandering.
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His job is a different than Pewdiepie's. He is comparable to a journalist, and credibility is EVERYTHING. His stance on "I'm not taking requests because I know more about creating content than most of the followers" is very reasonable, because the moment you start BS'ing around, pushing out garbage content is the moment people start doubting you as a professional.
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On Pewdiepie: I'm not interested in his stuff, but it's not like I hate him or the fans or anything. I just wish I could filter him out of my recommendations and suggestions.
On Portal 2: The map I made that seems to be the best received out of my bunch has got to be No Elements: Connection. I'm not sure what you mean with most impressive score though.
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My apology, I should have made it clearer. I'm looking for a test that is highly recommended by the community based on either the rating or the number of favorites.
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The last thing you should do in the portal 2 workshop is look at popularity. Usually the ones that get to the top are the ones that have thumbnails or titles that attract people to it. There's only a few good map creators that get regular popularity. For every map with the ingenuity of Mevious, there's about a 1000 others that aren't worth your time.
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Depression can affect small children and babies. Don't talk about stuff you clearly don't understand.
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It's particularly funny when you consider that middle school just happens to cover an age range where mental/emotional upheaval is a common and expected thing.
Oh well, it's only 2014, there's still plenty of time left for people to 'believe' in things that the medical community have long since covered.
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What he is saying is he finds it unbelieveable that people are able, and going to fall into depression just because they don't have any friends.
Also I don't think not having any friends is every possible, especially while you are in school.
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The correlation is that they are absurd states of misery that shouldn't exist, yet do.
Don't forget that while school is a social gathering point at that phase in life, it's moderation is patchy and it is very easy for individuals to become walking targets. Children also lack the depth of coping skills and self-assurance that adults have, while also lacking the same scale of legal/cultural protection. If an adult faces discrimination or toxic behaviour in a workplace, there is often somebody who can effect a series of changes to positively effect the situation. At school age, the first task is for the situation to be taken seriously and not waved off as "It's just kids doing kid things, they should grow up and just deal with it", and then the second part is taking effective steps to halt it.
School can be a lot like prison, only with a handful of extra freedom but a handful less of 'quality control', and kids throughout the whole age range fall through the cracks all the time. You said it was impossible. I'm saying that "impossible" is a gross exaggeration.
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Then you evidently need to study it far more.
No age range is immune to MDD or neurosis. While the common state of a temporary emotional low akin to melancholy is expressed as 'depression' in common vocabulary, it's not exactly the height of difficulty to distinguish when a person means they felt low, and when they were verging on a state of clinical depression.
Perhaps you should also study the cultural biases and attitudes around such conditions, and how mocking people for even the merest mention of the subject is a massive, toxic force that causes genuine sufferers to simply not seek help (or stop, when faced with a few people scoffing like you were). A great deal of people don't even realise they have depression, or perform mental gymnastics to avoid facing up to the giant red flags simply because of these kinds of attitudes.
You didn't leave much room to misread your intent with : "depression in middle school. hahaha nice clinical diagnosis buddy".
Simply studying a subject isn't enough. Comprehending it, becoming educated, and using the knowledge lucidly is the goal.
It's not some hollow "i dun studi dis" card you can wave around and pretend to have any scope for reality over.
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I don't like Pewdiepie. Not everyone likes Sips. I love Sips.
Pewdiepie fans have a different taste than me. I can hate Pewdiepie and still respect those with different tastes
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The only thing that is irksome about the guy is that his fame causes his videos to appear far more often in recommended videos, which got pretty grating to people who disliked his style. It's akin to disliking one specific comedian but then having them constantly appear on your suggested videos (and without any immediate visual hints if you don't pay close attention to usernames before you click).
It was just compounded by the fans that gushed about him with babies-first-meme fervour in other unrelated videos. It made him like a creeping mould that got everywhere, like some kind of strobing banner advert. His videos themselves aren't particularly offensive beyond inspiring facepalms and boredom, and most of the irritation came from specific clusters of fanspam, but really that's all it takes.
It's cool that he served as an orbital point for a fan-community that in turn gave people a social network, and it's cool that people enjoy his material enough to look forward to it, but that just puts him on the level of any random podcast or stream. It's not really a rare miracle to see younger people 'finding' themselves with random oddball peer groups online. To each their own. Pootypie just happens to be the online equivalent of this advert. Sure, it's shruggable to begin with, but then imagine it appearing everywhere. Soundbites. Comments in unrelated areas. Memes. Of course that shit would grate on you if you don't particularly enjoy it. That's the price of fame without proper tempering.
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All the people says things, Sam. If you like something, just watch it. Remember that there will be people that don't will like your stuff, and people who love your stuff. Dont do what other people say you need to do, im referring to peers and friends, don't misunderstand. Obey your parents.
IN RESUME: IF YOU LIKE TO WATCH OR DO SOMETHING AND OTHER PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WHAT YOUR DO, ITS OK, WORLD IS LIKE THAT :)
DO WHAT YOU LIKE (good stuff, not bad, don't misunderstand), NOT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE TELL YOU TO DO AND YOU DON'T WANT TO :D!
ITS OK TO HAVE AN OPINION AND DISAGREE. NOT BECAUSE YOUR FRIEND DON'T LIKE THAT, IT DOESN'T MEANS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T LIKE IT.
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Earlier today I came over a friend's house and saw his brother watch pewdiepie. My friend started calling pewdiepie a retard and said "those who watch him are or will end up being like him too." I later got a chance to talk with his brother alone and this is exactly what he told me:
"I like his videos, they lighten up my days. I used to have no friends and felt like a piece of trash all the time, now I can live my day and look forward to his videos. I also make more friends too since there are other kids who watch pewds like I do."
As someone who suffered depression in a brief period of time during middle school, what he said really hit me. If what pewdiepie and/or other LPers do are entertaining those kids and keeping them away from depression, he should be praised for it. His products/ videos might not have the best quality on Youtube or there are other LPers who are better than him in terms of personality or quality, but his works does affect kids positively. Yes, he earns loads of money from doing youtube and whether or not he deserves it is debatable, but eventually it seems like more a win-win situation for both him and his fans.
And about his fans, yes some of them are cray cray. However, if he's one of only few things that help kids get through tough time, it is extremely likely that they would defend him in great capacity and react voluminously to any criticisms against him. Unless there's a way to cure every kid on the planet from depression, feeling like nothing, and identity crisis, it'd still be understandable for pewdiepie's fans to be this "inordinate."
So what do you guys think? I am still not having any prejudice or bias towards him except one fact which is I admire that he entertains and cheers up lots of people, some of them have been having a tough time.
Note: All of this are made based on my personal moral ground. Understandable/ comprehensible acts may or may not mean it's plain wrong or right.
Also: I am hiring a portal 2 test maker for my next giveaway. Post the link of your most well received test and I will contact the person with he most impressive test based on its rating/ number of favorites.
Also also, this can apply to other LPers too. For example: Tobuscus.
Also also also, I do watch let's play (mainly those made by Cryaotic and The Best Friends Zaibatsu). I do watch videos from other channels too but in term of gaming, the two previously mentioned channels are pretty much it. I'm more of a news and science facts guys so reality check and the what if machine, all made by gamespot, are two of my most favorite series on youtube.
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