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Do you blacklist someone if he/she has VAC ban?
My main reason is no reason
That's good reason! :D
any reason for no reason?
Almost a no reason.
This is a giveaway site. I'm not required to maintain a "ratio" of any sorts. Using that skewed logic people of no level should be sitewide banned or something. Also, I always return a blacklist favor, even if I don't have to. Just an act of mutual courtesy.
He didn't claim that you have to maintain a ratio. Only that you actually do offer him reasons.
No. I have friends with vac bans on their account from several years ago. People change. Not going to spend the energy blacklisting everyone who has ever cheated or broken the law.
Just don't be a piece of sh*t on here and you're good in my book.
At a minimum, for this you need to open the user's steam profile, but I'm too lazy. In any case, even if I get interested in something and open it, I don't care.
He played with cheats and got banned. He received his punishment. Why should I do anything else?
your really a super pony aren't you -or should be star
Nope, cheating on SG is another story (e.g. multi accounts, suspicious GAs, or taking advantage of groups..)
Might block you on Steam tho but only, if I play the same games..
btw, sneaky ; )
I wouldn't block anybody unless i saw they were like, real evil eg satanist or something
or other things which i can't mention here because i'm sure i'd get banned lol
I BL only for:
No. This has nothing to do with steamgifts, so I don't see why I would blacklist them.
I'm not the kind who cares for punishment and retribution in most aspects other than as a way to reduce harm. If I blacklist them, it does nothing. They may not even know about it. Even if they do know, would that make them less likely to cheat in their games? I don't think anyone would make that connection and repent just because they can't access a fraction of a percent of the giveaways. I feel like I'm a bully if I kick someone who is already down for no legitimate reason.
If they are being shady on steamgifts or have given me trouble in the past, that's another story.
First off, there is the chance, though perhaps slim, that it's not a legitimate ban. Second off, I don't believe in once a cheater always a cheater. Sure there are some that will never stop, but serial cheaters like that will try and hide it by doing it on alt accounts, so odds are you won't even know.
No, I don't give a shit really about VAC bans, I've learned it the hard way from CS:GO that VAC isn't a functional concept, plus I have friends who cheated but regret it. I only blacklist depending if you're an asshole or just giveaway those cheap 1p games from like giveeclub.
Not really, but it's funny cuz either I see people with 1 vac ban or I see people with +10 for some reason, like if they were trying to get a record.
I met people who collect bans several times (I think one of them had 39 of them)
which could be a clever tactic to cover the first vac.
"I didn't cheat", "I'm just trying to get all vac bans I can for fun"
But u cant get vac if u dont cheat...i mean, ita hard too
Nah, I also have friend on my Steam friendlist who got hacked and after banned as scammer.
I haven't used it much, but SGtool seems to be more useful in SG.
I dont use blacklist,in this case it just wouldn't be very useful, as i would be blocking people access to more SP/ co op games than i would MP
in certain circumstances, i might consider running a private GA to avoid giving a VAC enabled game to VAC banned people, as to avoid any chance of ruining MP for everyone else.
I also tend to remove people from my steam friend list if they have a recent ban.
TL;DR: I won't partake in this Orwellian BS, so I don't care about VAC bans for my BL.
VAC is creepy. And more generally, all client-side anti-cheat crap is creepy: it's basically a Trojan horse that somehow got good karma and gets to send whatever it deems "suspect" on your computer to random remote geeks who can do whatever they want with those data then.
For people who, at that point, still fail to see the harm in it: think unencrypted contents of your password manager. Or the connection cookie of your bank's website.
VAC gets a special creepiness mention for how Steam uses it as a Social Credit System though. They're probably walking on a very thin line with the GDPR there, as well.
I get client-side anti-cheat is (sadly) a "necessary evil" for many (but far from all) multiplayer games, still it's the core reason I don't play such games. Lastly, VAC in solo games is inexcusable. It very rarely happens but it's already way too much.
Is there an option to implement an anti-cheat system on the server side?
It's possible, but only for some kinds of games: those where enough of the game logic happens server-side. That wouldn't really be an anti-cheat per se though, just normal security.
Minion Masters comes to mind as an example of a multiplayer game where client-side anti-cheat isn't needed. Although with the invisible units, maybe not so much anymore.
Yeah, this is one of the reason that I don’t play multiplayer games and it also goes to antivirus software.
I don't use the blacklist, but I wouldn't blacklist for VAC reasons if I did. I'm a firm believer in growth and change in people. Most truthfully, I'm lazy. Checking profiles takes more clicks than I can be bothered to make D:
This. Both reasons.
No, who cares if you cheated and got banned? It's your loss in the end.
VAC ban is a good sign to avoid trading with somebody, or at least the person with the VAC ban should go first in a trade. I don't care what the giveaway winner does as long as they activate the game and mark it as received
Vac ban or Game Band I don't care but if there is a trade ban notification it's dangerous
At least no one can hear him scream.
No, I don't give a shit about others VAC bans.
I would like to see someone admitting to voting yes though!
So. I was the first who voted for yes in this poll. Even if I never BL people for that ('-'
Cheating the poll? :o
Maybe. Gotta put everything on the scale first, but just for it alone no..
I don't think it's my business
No. I do not blacklist for that. It's not any of my business. A 14 year old boy could have cheated on a multiplayer game, then joined SG as a 20 year old who hasn't done anything stupid with their Steam account since. It's not fair to judge people like that.
Nah, my blacklist already is huge enough without that.
But I do filter out VAC bans if I do giveaways via sgtools. Mostly because it's so easy to do.
I might (because some weird people including myself think that cheating in multiplayer games is not cool, you know). But the said bans should be both multiple (I doubt the system would mistake several times for one person) and fresh, and 5+ years is hardly fresh.
I don't blacklist people, unless you really have to be a douchebag and even then, I have tolerance to that. My Blacklist is at the moment clean.