CV protection for most wanted games

But that is part of the problem, SG was meant to be a giveaway website. People shouldn't really be thinking, oh this is 85% off and unbundled so it will provide me with the best ratio of money to CV so I can get into higher tier giveaways to get the games I actually want... Seems more like a trading service and seeing how you can the most out of the trade. You might as well just buy the games you want instead.
If you look at Fallout 4, people were creating giveaways prior to launch before it received heavy discounts. They weren't worried about the ratio of money spent to CV earned. They cared about giving away a much desired game to the community, which is the right attitude.
psvan91 said he cared because he wanted to give out unbundled games, but why does that even matter? The main reason I can think of is private groups. Some groups require unbundled game giveaways from each member, again working as a trading system. Others give points based on giveaways and provide more for unbundled, again a form a trading. I would be more concerned with providing games that I could afford and would be wanted and enjoyed over any bundled/unbundled concern.

Because people don't have money?

I'm level 5 now, and I get here mostly thanks to bundle games. I don't know if I would do better if I would GA games like GTA V of F4, but the fact is that at the time, I had 2$ to spend from time to time but I didn't had 60$ to spend it at once.

Also I somehow prefer giving more games, especially when bundle is really good, instead of one game.

BTW, I think some games are actually somehow protected. All Fallout games are avalible to be given, none of them are bundled. Some key shops (and I mean legit shops, not this platforms that are often called shady) create nice discounts that allow to exploit CV on F3 or F:NV yet they are full value.

There are also other factors going on with that. People give those games to special groups to remove chances or regifiting or having the winners be bots or rule breakers

1. there have been so many public fallout 4 giveaways. did you all miss them? there were many, really. i believe the last one i saw ended yesterday.

2. groups and whitelists are kind of a reward for being an active member here and giving away lots of games. is it wrong to reward the people who invest a lot in this site?

3. i give away better games, because they are better. sometimes i buy a game despite knowing it's listed as bundle game, just because it's a good game and i want to give it away. there are people here who do that. just not the majority. and that won't change, no matter what we change here.

Yeah but how many of the S. Gifts members (also, members who give a lot of games) are Russian?

Because this suggestion is basically "this game is wanted so it's ok to exploit it, go crazy and make 5 copies giveaways"

if a game is added to the bundle list, it's there to avoid everyone using it to quickly get cv.

giving power to the people to decide what's the value of a game will end up in more exploits.

Corrected my post so you get it. Both games cost 20$. Both are 90% off. But game 1 may not even be very good but is from popular franchise so a lot of ppl have it WLed, while game B is a debut title, some niche genre etc - so not many ppl have it wishlisted. Both games should give the same CV - if they fall into 95% off in russia they give 3$ (15% of 20$) if threy don't they give 20$ CV. with what OP proposes one will be giving 20$ CV while other will give 3$ CV.

I loved bad rats, it was one of the first games I perfected! :)

raises hand for actually 100%ing Bad Rats and genuinely wanting to win Barbie™ Dreamhouse Parts™ for playing purposes

Top wishlisted games on the site will always be:

• Current new AAA game with large marketing behind it
• Somewhat older AAA game with lots of marketing behind it
• Newest game in a known franchise that 90% of the wishlisters never actually played a minute in their lives coughFalloutcough coughWitchercough
• Some random indie game that got coverage on Twitch and people now want it (waves hi to Nuclear Throne and Undertale)
• Anything that costs more than 50 USD and had a marketing campaign last over two weeks

I appreciate the joke, i was expecting the first reply to be "blacklisted", some people are weak at heart and just do stuff like that on the fly because they were given the power to do so.

Now to the actual reply to your comment:

Thing is, the only incentive here should be purely "gifting", not "e-peen". Alot of people here do it for the "e-peen".

Of course when e-peen is involved, people will stop caring about the actual meaning of the word "gifting", something that is included in this websites name. This is a bad practise, newcomers who join the community will follow the e-peen train to whatever place it may go. Some people will even try to outsmart the trains conductor once in a while and get caught.

"Give a man some power and you will see his true character", "e-peen" could be associated with power in some ways, the true character depends on the mindset on each person.

Simple solution: remove CV tiers, leave it purely cosmetic for the eye, gives people less of a reason to care about farming CV for e-peen and actual gifting for generosity or any other reason they have in mind that doesn't ring a bell on the word "attention" or term "show-off". If people want to be elitists, they can do so in their own groups, which by default are away from publics eyes which is something CV fails at achieving.

Understandable that some people could potentially use that to weed out rule breakers and abusers. This can be achieved other ways, without using CV. The SG tools for example, i returned recently and saw this being a common practise in alot of giveaways made in the forums. This sounds alot better than using CV on giveaways.

The problem with CV is that it's set to both public and private, groups on the other hand are mostly private, they aren't directly public. So "elitist groups" are less of a problem when compared to CV, which is often used in public giveaways. CV being used as it is right now is a bad practise for this community and should be dispatched or changed into something purely cosmetic.

Also between a good practise and a bad practise, what would you rather see? I do consider the use of CV a bad thing for the community, it's rather pointless that such thing even exists. Elitists can do their thing with closed groups, like you said. Keyword here being "closed", aka not set to the public eyes.

+1

The three-pack of Trine 3 made it less than $1.50 each, too.

Yes, but you're paying $12 to get it. The bundler doesn't even know what'll be in the bundle.

But, you're paying $12 to get AI, which isn't 95% of the retail price. If the bundler is making the assumption that the overall discount of the entire bundle will be 95%, I don't think that's right. They haven't done such a thing, that I know of, with the other bundles. Seems silly to me.

Not even that. If it is cheap enough that suddenly a lot of people make GAs for it, it gets bundled. If it goes beyond 90%, it may get bundled. Heck, I'm mildly surprised that BundleStars' Bethesda pack didn't end up there.

The underlying problem lies with current bundle list implementation which is somewhat commonly regarded to be broken at the moment. It has some major issues like Russian discounts. How common the gift is a good indicator if the game could be considered as "bundled". Hence my proposition uses it as a metric to determine which gifts are given such label instead of using outside source of all the sites in the world. Any implementation (even the removal of bundle list and/or CV) will have also negative effects. So does this one.

How would define what games are good? You could use Steam's user review value or number of entries in giveaways as an indicator but they both have their flaws. Some game might be good for others and garbage to rest.

And no, I am not a game collector. Quite opposite of that in fact.

How so? I stated that the bundling effect will be retroactive. Aye, users rushing creating new bundle games will get higher CV but that would last only limited time (few days likely). The con of this that there would be no longer protection against bundle status for anyone. Now you get full CV if you make the giveaway before bundling date. With this system that would be no longer case and everyone's gifts get bundle status after number of giveaways reaches required point.

Also, I could add that there is already difference between regional store pricing and some regions are paying more than others hence getting more or less CV per buck than others depending on their region.

To some degree yes but I would consider game getting high discount on Russian store to be also unpredictable. Or sales in some other sites.