He kicked you all because you're Turks. No, really, that is genuinely what he said.
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ummm... i live in england?
EDIT: plus the fact that the group obviously isn't deleted
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Yeah, made this stupid announcement (plus a few more). About two hours later, he deleted all the posts and everyone but the people currently still in the group. Why? Because people on these forums said (correctly) that it was a group that was going to be filled with leechers, including the admin himself. The admin whined hard about this and shut it down, screaming all the while about Turks (I don't know, don't ask me, but that's a direct screenshot with the only editing being cropping it down a little).
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well i provided a link to the group, so i can't falsify that info, but thank you for the info
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hence why he was banned for racism, among other things, it wasn't the jade falcon, it was that micky guy, the admin that said it
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Why isn't that guy banned already? Scamming and racism isn't enough for a ban?
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i was just giving those who may still be in the group a warning, along with those who are trying to join
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I had gathered that. I was just saying, in my snarkily comedic way, that it is completely not surprising that a random person starting a giveaway group out of the blue where members are required to give gifts would turn out to be a scammer. That situation is a scam waiting to happen
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very true, but a select few of these groups do turn out to be geniune
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Ok, I feel that I'm going to be extremely unpopular on this web-site after this post. But I always believed there are things more importnat htan being popular.
As you might have noticed, I only joined steamgifts literally several days ago. I am still figuring out how all giveaway mechanism works, I have 0 experience with Steam groups and I am not an active Steam user in general. But, I do have experience of moderating web-discussions, managing users, solving conflicts etc. And this is where I will speak from.
As you know, I joined VIP Pixel when it opened up as I thought "interesting, this is a group for giveaways, must be good to learn how this things work - may be I can contribute something and get something in return - why not?". However, I was unpleasantly surprised by the amount of sarcasm (that I personally saw sometimes at the borderline with trolling and flaming) in the thread with the group opening announcement. I admit I do NOT know what looks suspicious to steamgifts/steam users, what they find insulting and whether that group looked like a personal insult to everyone. May be there are serious reasons, and I will not deny them. However, again, what I did see was that the announcer was utterly overreacting to all negative comments (vast majority of comments in that thread). Why? I have no idea - could be character/age/language problems (he is an obvious non-native speaker)/health condition/UFO influence/insert your option here. In any case, what happened than was that MickyTheKing1was obviously very upset and utterly made some rough movements by kicking many people out of the group, leaving only a few. We than had a group-chat, in which he mentioned he was extremely upset about people insulting him and didn't know what to do (how to stop that from hapenning). Other members suggested him to make a giveaway, to make it only to people who remained in the group MickyTheKing1 than created a giveaway of "The ship", which was won by infinity93. As far as I know, he obtained it without any problems.
Clearly MickyTheKing1(and other group members including myself) didn't know much about how resync works, what can group members and non-members see and not see. So some more giveaways were made (Team Fortress and Avadon, which was won by topicstarter). I think that is the reason for all this confusion.
What I am trying to say is that I do NOT see MickyTheKing1 as a scammer. Yes, I have next to none experience of dealing with Steam community, but I do not think a scammer would ask about which games to giveaway to regain trust. Scammers pimarily want to get games, right? If someone doesn't trust them, they back off or create a new account.
I think that the administration of steamgifts must know all points of view, especially if some information was limited to a small number of people.
I suggest that instead of banning MickyTheKing1 the activity of VIP Pixel should be suspended for some weeks/months/forever. And whether MickyTheKing1 is a scammer should be carefully determined. So far the only thing given in the group was his "The Ship".
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Fact 1 : He made a giveaway group expecting people to give games when he himself barely gave anything at all.
Fact 2 : There's another group with the same rules which was created JUST A WEEK AGO.
Fact 3 : He's not a scammer, just a leecher who wants to have a higher chance to win games.
Fact 4 : The games he's giving most likely are free(The ship had a promo where if you gifted a friend a copy, he gets another to gift).
Fact 5 : There are many better giveaway groups with great giveaways and a great chat. Usually have a criteria which prevents leechers/inactives. Search around, you'll find them.
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Thank you for your reply. But I think what you say goes along well with what I wrote. If he was banned for "scamming", that was probably done due to a certain confusion (I am not saying he did not cause this confusion to happen, though). And that is why I said, since you guys think there is something (potentially) wrong with the group would it not be better to suspend its activity instead of banning the person, who founded it?
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This community is very strict when it comes to gaining games by inappropiate means, be it begging, asking for answers to riddles, giving out answers to riddles or making a group which encourages its members to create giveaways and then (without reason) kick most of those members so it's only 15 people left - increasing the chances to win the so created giveaways for the creator and his friends drastically (more than 50% of the people left in the group are friends with the creator since >2 weeks!).
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Oh I see where you are going now. You do have a point. Even though members were kicked out right after Avadon giveaway started (it went on for several days) and long before the winner was determined, I think I understand why you find his activities so suspicious.
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He wasn't banned for scamming. he was banned for being racist due to a certain post about turks.
and there is no way to block group activities at all.
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I'm currently in a group for giveaways, it's legit because i've won 2 things out of it already and gaveaway a game aswell. There were like 100 or so giveaways in it this week (people who stayed in the group had to make a game giveaway, one of the rules is making a giveaway each month).
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S-Gifters? :P
There is also an S--Gifters, Yatterman's playground i supose :P
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joyous time? no. the admin of the group that i had won the game on had kicked most of the people from the group.
VIP Pixel Gifts
if you read the top comment at the moment, entitled "VIP Pixel Gifts not deletet... " it states that the person kicked most of the members due to lack of trust, and yet he trusts those who read this announcement.
well, i have read it. why was i kicked?
this is the exact announcement he said. for those who are apprehensive on hitting links you don't know
"So Hello Guys!
I dont deleted the Group.
I kicked all people i dont trust.
Everybody who reads this, i trust.
The rules has changed. They are now "better" i think.
Please dont start in this week a Giveaway, because the profile from the people they i kicked out must resync.
Have fun!"
i think i deserve some kind of explanation. i don't care about the game, it's just not right what they done, almost seems like he's kicking people just to get all the games himself!
EDIT, now check this out
My chat with the admin
not even a word of explanation. i personally say this guy is a scammer, getting a bunch of guys to make giveaways, then kick them all
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