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At least people should know what they are gambling on.
This should also means that devs can't tweak them on the down low.

I've been asking for that level of transparency on the mobile F2P-MMO-collectathon games for years.

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next step, ban gambling items.

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Mixed feelings. On one hands it gives people a better idea of what they are getting into, on the other they should be taking responsibility to get that understanding themselves. Also its just another example of the Chinese government seeks to control over their citizens. See it in their silencing freedom of speech, censoring the internet in their country, controlling the number of children per family, and freedom of religion (which "supposedly" is better than it was).

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How is making devs report the odds, and keep records "just another example of the Chinese government seeks to control over their citizens"?
It's a basic measure of consumer protection giving said customer base more information, i.e. more power.

It's clearly not a good example for that argument.

they should be taking responsibility to get that understanding themselves

If you mean people are responsible for estimating the odds themselves: no, that's a stupid belief.
For one that information is not available, static or even obtainable until mass data (mass purchases) has been collected. There is no logical justification on why finding that information should be up to the consumers rather than disclosed by the developer.

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China has had a good deal of bullshit pushing around developers and directors into changing things because of the way they control their citizens. If you want a real life example beyond generic statements, look up: "chinese government doctor strange ancient one casting" in google. The statements are self explanatory, and this is common practice for them.

Next, I do agree with the statements that the information and odds can be variable and to get exact data you have to get a massive amount of data. However that is NOT what I meant by saying people should get a better idea what they are getting into. Anyone, I repeat, anyone who thinks that they are statistically likely to come ahead in gambling, either in an online box opening for market value or a real life casino is a fool. (I understand there is a slight difference between real and virtual gambling, one to get items and the other for either fun or direct profit, but the basic concept is there and both are "skewed" to say the least for a) the house to win, and b) that you will continue to gamble).

As for a reason dealing with logic alone (and not including any god-given rights of the devs or the consumers or morals in the situation... which personally I feel would be a better debate) why they devs should be allowed to disclose the information: Gambling sites, games, and casinos are all businesses which work with the economy. A company's ONLY goal is to make money, preferable legally. Giving statistics will do more to dissuade people from participating which would lead to the business failing, which would increase the multitude of fraud, the businesses laying off people, a stagnating real life or virtual economy, and most likely causing games (in this specific case) to not have continual funding to help support a game. Wonder why cs:go is still growing so long after release? Case gambling. In addition, giving the statistics will lead to the practice of gambling for the consumer becoming a task rather than something for fun. Gambling in general would no longer be for a level of enjoyment, but to try and fudge the system to win and win would be the only goal***.

***TO CLERIFY: I only agree with these points to a very fine line. I fucking despise gambling, it's rigged, meant to take money away from those in the lower and middle class, and is to me is a bigger problem with addiction in destroying millions of lives moreso than any and all drugs are worldwide. This is why I myself try and inform my csgo friends on steam of their likelihood to lose. This is why I said I would prefer a debate on the morals of it, because fuck ruining people's lives.

You are right it would be idiotic to have the belief that people are supposed to estimate odds for something, which is why I ask that you please take the next logical step and realize that I must have been trying to convey something else. I myself will try and be more clear as that is at least partially my own fault.

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Because we only buy crates has a profitable investment.
It's not as if it keeps a player base hooked on a game and fund further expansion, right?

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