Jesus Yatterman, you were right on that, less than 15 seconds after I'd posted you'd replied.
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I'm inclined to agree with Yatterman on this one.. i mean seriously? instead of QQ'ing about how much you hate EA stop playing their games and buying them.. and really what it boils down to in the end is that you have an opinion about something and that's great but stirring up Propaganda about a specific Company or tool from said company try backing that up with some facts and not just hearsay you got from someone else or found on some random website that is not related to them..
I fail to see how this company is even ruining the gaming industry... because EA decided to pull their major hitting titles off Steam? hey it's all about marketing and it works for Steam so EA wanted in on that action so they did it.. they took down BF2 servers? bull.. i play on a regular basis and the servers are dedicated and ran by communities and individuals..
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Technically, doesn't that also hurt the developers as well?
Edit: The only thing I hope is that developers start moving towards self/fan-funding.
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Most developers get payed a fixed amount regardless of sales. In best cases, they get maybe like 5% of the sale, 10 tops with some digital distributions. The publishers get most of the profits. Since these days, the publishers really aren't needed anymore, I personally have no issues with killing them. They are obsolete and they should fall.
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That's one of the catalysts actually, they've started taking down servers.
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aren't BC2 servers dedicated, hosted my community?
a lot of those servers still keep notices how they're switching to BF3 but stay online because a lot of people play the game
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Yea, I'm pretty sure PC servers are. But the server browser is EA hosted along with stats and levels if I'm correct.
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Do you really think Activision, EA, blizzard, ubisoft, etc... Will 'banish'? How do you think multi billion dollar companies will just banish?
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Money means absolutely nothing nowadays, billon dollar companies now? that right, but they can turn in a pile of ruble in just months, once artists and consumers realise theres no longer a need for the middle man they will go, it might take a while but belive me they are of no use in the present.
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Look at the US auto industry. GM for example was almost a TRILLION dollar company at its peak and would have went bankrupt without the bailout. When consumers wake up, artists will to. PROBLEM however is that people are easily manipulated. Look at the nigerian scams ffs.
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Great that you explained so well what part was wrong.
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Make a Steam Group, that will show 'em not to mess with us.
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Oh, the OP means EA's own multiplayer servers. I thought they were taking down servers hosted by non-EA hosts, for some reason.
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Ye I like this attitude - bitching about company and yet buying their products. If you don't like what they're doing - don't support them with your money, simple as that
EDIT: and it's not going to happen, you know why? Because people can't resist the urge to play brand new shitty game. They're addicted to new sensations and that's why companies will always win :P
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this is so freaking stupid. its not EA. want someone to blame, blame the current idiotic generation of gamers who are only too happy to pay for dlc and tolerate all this shit, constantly screaming TAKE MY MONEY to encourage shitty behaviour from publishers, because they know they can treat you like scum and you keep coming back for more.
I don't blame the tiger for attacking the human, its in his nature. I blame the human for being so stupid as to walk in the jungle with shirt made of meat, ringing a freaking dinner bell.
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joined. i've had 12 "unsolved" cases with their retarded customer support team. theyve tried offering me 15% coupons for the origin store of the 3 i have none have worked so far. and forcing customers to use a BETA client that is rife with bugs to launch purchased AAA games? thats absurd, we should be able to play all of those games for free for participating in their beta test. think about it, would you ever PAY to be in a beta test? bf3 is the last game i will ever buy from ea. and even though your cause is small and lacking any concrete direction, i still support it. POWUH TO DUH PEOPLE
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I play BF3 on the console and secretly love them for future cop LAPD but here on the interwebs I think they is bad juju
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Haven't bought a game from EA, Activision and Ubisoft in a long time. Not going to start anytime soon.
The worst is the insult that Activision thinks I want to pay 100 AUD for MW3 or 90 AUD for MW2. I wouldn't take those for free.
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Ubisoft is the worst of the three. Their DRM is easily bypassed by the various scene groups that crack all their games, and so legitimate consumers are screwed, to put it bluntly.
Ubisoft is based in France too, and it's incredible they don't realize there's only Paris in France. I kid you not, THAT many people who bought Ubisoft PC games in France end up returning it due to their crappy internet connection that drops like a fly touching live wires. Plus, most of the times their servers are offline.
Turns out they've stopped making PC games though. It's been a while - excluding From Dust and Assassin's Creed for some reason - a Ubi game has made it to PC. There's no official statement, but medias are proclaiming Ubi will only go on consoles. Their reason, as time has proven us, is because of the pirates. Not that they'd consider releasing GOOD games without DRM, worth paying 60 euros for, would help them.
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Half the people in this group will buy Mass Effect 3.
Didn't something like this, maybe it was a petition for another game happen and then most of those people bought the game anyways? Was it CoD, I forget.
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I am interested in Mirror's Edge from EA. That's it. Oh, and I'm not touching a version that has any more restrictive DRM than a Steam wrapper.
From what I'm hearing now, what little interest I had in getting any of the Mass Effect games is further diminished.
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Yeah wow just as effective as all those silly MW3/BF3 boycott groups.
None of you will actually do what you claim. It is pointless to make such a group since none of the pre-pubescent welps that make up this group haven't the maturity or mental capacity to understand what they are doing nor follow through with their supposed threat.
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It's weird how so many people have this attitude of boycotts/protests don't work. Seems pretty awesome for companies to just be able to do whatever they want, with no people ever standing against them because they think it's pointless.
I wish I could manipulate people like that... so awesome :)
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Well, HL3 "boycott" proves him right - Valve still didn't said a single word about HL3, didn't they? Not even "we're too busy with DOTA2 and CSGO and don't have any further plans then just releasing those two games"...
I think RIGHT NOW gaming boycotts have little sense - "gaming noobs/casuals" doesn't care and apparently they are majority (or, at least they are the only ones that matters to publishers)... :(
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You could write examples all day long and it still wouldn't prove that protests never work.
As for the second part... I never specifically said I was talking about video game related protests or boycotts. But even if I was, the 'failure' of the L4D2 boycott is pretty debatable. The two people who started it got flown to Valve headquarters to have their concerns addressed. If that's a boycott failing then what does it succeeding even look like?
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So, L4D2 boycott was about flying to Valve, not about Valve abandoning L4D1 (which they did)?
I know real-life-boycotts works. But now-a-days gaming-boycotts doesn't, and apparently that's a fact (can't name any gaming boycott that worked). Mostly because those who boycott are only barking loud, but when it comes to action, they doing whatever companies want (read: go to nearest shop and buy, buy, buy).
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The L4D2 boycott wasn't about flying to Valve. They had concerns though, and then Valve flew the leaders out to hear their concerns and assure them. Personally I think that shows that the boycott was extremely successful, as that was far more than anyone thought would ever be achieved and some of the concerns were actually addressed. Please explain how people saying, "we're not buying your product because we feel betrayed" and then Valve saying, "dont worry, we'll show you whats up and you won't feel that way anymore" and flying people to Valve HQ is a failure, please feel free to argue it in a way other than attempting to put words in my mouth though.
You can't claim that boycotts don't work and then just call it a fact, even if no 'gaming' boycotts thus far have ever worked (which is debatable). That's not how facts work. You have to prove them. If I flip a coin 5 times and only get heads I can't just claim that tails is impossible and 'thats a fact' because I haven't seen it happen. I assure you that's not how facts are born.
This entire thread and mindset depresses me. Why do people want to be powerless so badly? Is it really such an offense to you to even admit that it is even possible for a boycott to create positive change?
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Pretty sure there are better causes to protest then this, sure EA is shit, if you dont like it though, dont buy it.
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Very true, its because people are comfortable and content just enough not to do anything, they keep it that way on purpose.
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Well, recently a friend started up a group specifically to show how mad he is about Electronic Arts' actions in gaming, from forcefully taking down multiplayer servers for games that are still popular, to zero-day DLC.
Check out http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ANTI-EA if you're interested in illustrating the same kind of sentiment.
Who knows, if we get a lot of members, I may even do a raffle or two of non-EA games.
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