Hi , I have a question about gifting games for pay less because i dont want to get ban .
If i have a French main account and i change the region for Turkey , and i create a second account from turkish , if i buy game from the second account and gift the game to the main account , can i get ban ? thanks

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u will have region lock problem and for ban idk

1 year ago
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to quote literally the first rule of steamgifts guidelines:
"Users are limited to one account per person, and accounts cannot be shared."

1 year ago
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I think they are talking about Steam, not SG.

1 year ago
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oh, right, that might be true. my communication skills today are awful and I'm still trying to be helpful xD

1 year ago
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Happy cakeday

1 year ago
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Thanks :D

1 year ago
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I am not sure I understand what you are asking.

You have account A that is French.
You have account B that is Turkish.
You want to gift games from B to A.

Correct?

1 year ago
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For the account A , I swap the region in Turkey and the account B is in Turkish

1 year ago
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That might work. But if you are based in France and only access the account from France, there might be problems.

Edit: But why do you want to buy with your 2nd account for your first, if you changed the first's region. The first accounts prices should be cheaper as well. As long as the store prices for the first did not change, you will not be able to gift with the second to the first, as the first is still considered "French".

1 year ago
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From my understanding, they saw that there's a risk of getting your account banned if you swap your region to get cheaper games. By doing the second account, they want the alt to get banned not them.

ETA: to change your steam region, you can't just change it, you have to use a card from that region so you'd also need to be able to pay with a Turkey account. And anything you think of, Steam probably has seen before and will still ban both accounts.

1 year ago
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Because the proflem is if i only buy game from Turkey on my main account steam will see i buy games from turkish BUT If my second account is a middleman like with 2nd account i buy games and send it to my main account does they will ban only the middleman or twice . For me they will only ban the middleban but I don't want to take the risk to try

1 year ago
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Each try to abuse a system is cheating and each cheating can and hopefully will result in punishments.
Up to a ban.

You don't need to question to know this. Using your brain for 5 seconds would be enough.

What did you think would happen if each one would do this ?

1 year ago
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Looks more like he's trying o get regional pricing for something. not trying to do anything on SG.

1 year ago
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I think Masafor is talking about Steam, not about SG.

At the end of the day switching regions on your account to get cheaper prices is abusing the system. Especially considering it is against the Steam ToS.

1 year ago
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Thanks and yes i wrote about steam.

1 year ago
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I understood him very well and he try to abuse the steam region pricing, which harms in the end all users because what he, and people like him, pay lesser for a game, have the publisher and devs lesser in their pocket, which means they raise the prices for all and in small studio cases, could that lead to the effect that they can't produce a following game.

So in the end, he openly say that he want to shit in our (all steam users) gardens...

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I mean regional pricing and region locks exists for reason right? but because of people like you abusing the system companies notice and to stop abuse increase prices so we are having difficulties affording them. Our monthly minimum wage is 400 euro most of population working for minimum wage... meanwhile in France it's much more higher and you should be able to afford it easier than us... no need to abuse the system and ruin it for everyone right??

1 year ago
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Why buy anything at all when stealing is so much cheaper!

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According to Steam user agreement the region setting of your account should reflect your real country of residence. Of course you can always ignore their rules. The risk you run in doing so is getting your accounts locked.

1 year ago
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The risk you run in doing so is getting your accounts locked.

The irony is that it would be illegal in... France

1 year ago
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The irony is that it would be illegal in... France

And I'm sure the law firm you hired for an undisclosed amount will successfully press charges against Valve and you'll win the case.

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Why me, I'm not the OP ^^ I was just pointing the irony of pretending to not be from a country that would protect OP against that.
That being said, I just realized you said locked and not terminated. So yup, could definitely happen as OP could simply trigger some anti account hijacking protection by messing up with VPNs and stuff.

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Valve doesn't terminate accounts they get locked meaning you can still play the games you have but can't use market or add new games.

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I don't really understand region changing that much. But that does look wrong & steam might do something.

But my question is if you can change your account region to Turkey then why make a 2nd Turkish account to gift games to the main account?
Can't you just directly buy games anyway in your main "Turkish" account?

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I can but i think , i have a risk to get ban if they feel i only buy games for pay cheaper , but if use an alt account to buy games and gift them , I think only the alt will be ban

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i think only the alt will be ban

Going off what I recall from previous SG and Steam Community discussions, I can reasonably assure you (based on the seeming consistency of the information that was previously provided) that Steam puportedly bans all accounts within any situation necessitating banning, and then forces you to contact them and try to reclaim your account after the fact. So based off that, we can assume that both accounts would be banned (and that you'd be put in the position of trying to convince Steam you weren't related to the alt account).

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And trying to explain why he contact them with a french ip, mail adress, phone number, payment details, to unlock his turkish account :D

1 year ago
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Bold plan! Please tell us how it turns out ;D

Hmm, or maybe we need to observe the status ourselves...

1 year ago
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More like a bold ban, amirite?

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yes. you will. stop trying to cheat the system

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if both accounts are set to the turkish region youll be able to gift games between them.
if account A is french, and B is turkish - you'll be able to gift games from A to B, but not from B to A due to a pricing difference over 10%, as well as possible region locking errors.

You can only swap regions once a month, or less.
Steam will ban your account if they feel you are doing it to avoid pricing differences.

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But if do that on my main account I will stay on the turkish region and never change , but the problem does steam can ban my main account for me i think they will ban the second account , this who send games and will not ban the main

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I'm pretty sure you can only change account region once every 3 months, but I might be wrong there.

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Without getting into the broader considerations, as other posts have already done, I'll point this out:
The benefits from what you're trying to do are massively outweighed by the risks. From a utilitarian standpoint, the saving of a small amount of money just isn't worth the risks of account compromise, especially through the especially high-risk method you're describing. Frankly, it's a bit unclear to me (and going off other posts, I think others as well) why you're trying to do what you're trying to do, in the first place.

Moreover, there's not even an intuitive point to what you're suggesting; From what I understand (as someone who theoretically understands the technology, but has never considered abusing it) it'd be far more reasonable to just set up an alt boot on your PC for the alt account, or set up a second PC for it, and have it fully VPNed to a different region, without any cross-interaction to your main account.

Rather, at the point where you're trying to cross-trade with your main account, you may as well just pirate the game in question instead. So long as you don't do any uploading, many countries don't even view it as illegal activity (as the issue with torrenting in the US is the violation of the "distribution" section of copyright law, and quite a few other countries seem to have some a comparable restriction to that) and, even where they do, they're presumably not too likely to leap on you if you're limiting your downloads, and- most notably- damages from being caught at that would likely still be less than those of losing your primary Steam account, assuming any decent investment into it (alternatively, there'd presumably not really be any reason for you to be stressing over losing your Steam account in the first place).

So yeah, I'm not seeing any advantage for trying to exploit Steam to the degree you're indicating. Well, unless you're taking the metamanagement of your primary Steam account (ie, leveling it) WAY too seriously, in which case you desperately need to take a step back from that.

Either way, from where I'm looking at it, I'm getting the indication that you went wrong in what you were trying to do, well before considerations of if you should do it or not even came into play. (Put another way, it's like knocking over a fridge to get at the cookie jar. You shouldn't be stealing cookies to begin with, but before that, why not just use a chair?)

TL;DR version, Why not just keep it on the alt account, instead of trying to gift it to the primary account? Or just pirate the game, if you're going to take risks anyway?

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Yea I know , like you said I literally complicate the way just for play , but at first the goal was to have every games on the same account just to ease the way for play . And I only pirate games of bigs developpers , I prefer to buy the games from small devs on steam .
Thanks you some much for your "linguistic ballet" , you taught me some things ! :)

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I prefer to buy the games from small devs on steam.

You are literally trying to steal from small developers so don't give us that shit about wanting to support small devs.

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Yes, both the accounts will get banned. It is against Steam ToS.
You can just look at Steam ToS to see the answer to your whole question.

Secondly, take a moment to think about the other impacts you, and other people doing this will cause.
Regional pricing exists for a reason, that reason being the earnings of people in different countries.
In some countries people earn a higher wage in a direct conversion. So countries with cheaper games on the Steam store, usually, have lower average wages.

By doing this, you create multiple impacts:

  • You cause developers and publishers to notice, and raise regional prices in those countries, which can essentially completely lock people out of being able to get certain games in that country, as it just can't fit into their budget at all.

  • You are giving the developers less than what you owe them. If you enjoy the game, just support the dev. Development isn't free. Just pay full (or sale) price for the game.

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Yes

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It's not worth it.

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Not like everybody agrees that this idea sucks, you created Steamgifts 10 minutes prior this thread, so that's that :/

1 year ago
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If the reasons only to "pay less" and want to crossover the country for example Turkey. As long you not doing any illegal thing you actually can.
But if is involved with any VPN or something there a chance to got Steam ban.
Even if you make Turkish account (especially using VPN) and then gift it the game to your French account, with only age account below 1 years and transaction history only to gift, huge chance both account will got Steam ban.

Also for any region lock game, can't be played from closed region lock area even though you shared your account.

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When creating an account, you will need to agree to their terms. If you disagree, you won't be able to create an account, and if you agree only temporarily, there will be the expected consequences (lock/ban).

Why don't you buy bundles or from official resellers at better prices?

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Closed 1 year ago by Fablepandaroux.