Which one is the best choice from the list
You forgot the "none" option. 2,5" SSD are much better than a HDD in read/write speeds(3xfaster) but compared to M.2 NVME SSD they are slow and are even more expensive. My recommendation M.2 NVME 2 TB Gen4 for ~ 80 bucks from a reputable brand. If your motherboard doesn't have built in slots for NVME there are cheap PCIe add-in cards available.
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I know, but the thing is I love my VHS type case and there's no room for a PCIe add in card due to cables and case size. I might even have a hard time adding the SSD...
Also, don't laugh but 80 bucks is out of the budget. Just need something cheap and reliable.
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Ok, got it. Whatever you buy don't go for under 500GB. Higher capacity SSDs tend to be faster and from a price per gigabyte perspective you'll get a much better deal. I don't know how the situation is in your country but where I live SSDs under 500GB capacity are nearly obsolete. From the brands you have listed I'd pick the Kingston or Western Digital one with 480GB.
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Thanks hbarkas, I had no clue about the best speed for bigger SSDs, seems a bit discouraging since you do get more price performance ratio with NVme. Might have to wait for a new build.
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At present storage prices are falling by the day. Traditional SSDs are more expensive as the much faster M.2 NVME drives. You can get a M.2 1 TB for 50$ or less so there's really no reason to buy a 2.5" SSD 500GB. I tried to explain it makes not much sense to invest in a relatively small drive when you can get 2xcapacity for same price or 4xcapacity for 2xprice.
Like Carenard wrote use an M.2 to SATA adapter. The M.2 2280 NVME format is the size of a chewing gum and I bet you'll find room for it in your pc case.
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The Samsung 980 NVme 500GB has a decent price, but yeah I don't think I'm gonna be able to add that.
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there is also NVME to SATA adapters, IDK how well they work but they exist and would take the same amount of space as a standard sata SSD would.
This would waste any of the advantages NVME had over SATA in terms of performance but it does definitely expand your available options at a low cost(they seem to all be < $20 here in the US)
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I've been using the same Kingston UV400 for years with no problems. YMMV, but I've always found their products to be pretty reliable.
If your motherboard supports NVMe drives, there's lots of good cheaper options from Silicon Power, Crucial, PNY, and SK hynix. Arguably overkill for an OS, but I've been very happy with NVMe for gaming.
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Thanks, It's one of the most sold in México, Kingston found a good market here. Will keep an eye on that one, It's one of the most cheap, the WD Green is at the same price.
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You're welcome. I hope you're happy with whatever you end up choosing. 😎
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When Ive had a HDD start to fail, I usually have gotten 99% of the data.
SSD, I have not have one fail yet so I cant comment on data recovery which I thinks is more 0% data without extreme data recovery costs.
Currenly I have my OS (windows) on an SSD. I have data on both added SSD and HDD.
If you are worried about having offsite backups which is a good paranoia, Carbonite is one I would reccommend.
Added note which may, or may not apply to you, NVME M2 drives shipping from Dell and HP systems (and probably everyone else) are usually Bitlocked. Its a motherboard and SSD dance. The SSD will refuse to talk to another Motherboard unless you can supply the bitlocker password. Had 2 friend in the last two years lose their motherboard, they cant access their data.
If you dont know your Microsoft Live login, that drive is encrypted and you cant just transfer it to another computer.
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Why no Samsung?
Or Crucial?
I've had an Ssd in my old PC (Intel Core 2 Quad 2,4Ghz, P35 mobo, 6GB Ram, hardware from 2008) for 6 8 or more years and they've been totally reliable. Initially a Samsung 120GB for the OS (Win7, later 10), and then a Crucial 250 GB as a second drive for games etc.
And the Speed difference even on an old potatato is huge.
It's like selecting a track on a record player or on a CD Player.
Not only on boot-up but also in-game data streaming. At a certain point of increasingly complex games however my CPU was just too slow.
Anyway, btt:
From your candidates I'd stick to the WD ones. The others are rebrands or various parts from different manufacturers, also depends on the warranty rules in your country however.
Don't fall for the trap of thinking you need the absolute fastest ones in benchmarks. There's fast and very fast.
Just be aware that small capacity ones can be alot slower.
And 240 GB is really on the low side. If you want to play AAA titles you should go for at least 400GB.
My Win 10 partition on the new system already uses 160GB for the OS, Swapfile, Hibernation etc.
Edit: Concerning NVME or Sata. If the money is tight or the board doesnt support NVME, a SATA SSD is still mighty fast.
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I think I saw some Crucial models on the vendor page, It's just that I remember reading people saying that Crucial is one the worst and I'm talking about people in the U.S. and I know they have really high standards when It comes to tech.
Oh yeah, Samsung is great, same as Intel, but they're premium here.
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Well, I haven't read about bad Crucial SSDs.
Concerning the US having high standards concerning Tech, um, I wouldn't subscribe to that pov.
They buy a lot of stuff like Razer or other Bling bling crap 😉
Edit: Just checked and my old SSDs were from before 2016.
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Well, I just checked the Crucial ones and the price is off the charts for those ones, just like Samsung, I guess you were right. Just like I said below to Carenard, they're adding a premium for good old tech here. Bummer.
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Its interesting to read about Crucial from other parts of the world. Here in Hungary its among the cheap options. I have a 240GB SATA SSD from them since 2019 and its still going strong, cost me about 30 USD back then. I would still consider their current models among the budget options. In fact, I am planning on buying a crucial SSD for my next setup as well, given my good experience with them and their good cost-to-value ratio.
I hope you will end up with a good alternative. :) If I had to choose from the models in your poll, I hear the Kingston and WD models are generally told to be reliable and a good bang for the buck.
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160GB for a fresh Windows 10 install? This is why I didnt want to swap to Win10 in the first place but I never thought It was that high...
Might even consider Linux even If I'm a dork.
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Oh, it's not a fresh install.
This is basically my install from upgrading Win7 to Win10 about 6-8 years ago and now with new hardware.
There's a lot of crap from steam saves, installed programmes etc. The Pagefile and Hibernation sys alone reserve 50GBs because I now have a new PC with a lot of Ram.
But before that on my old PC my Win install fitted on the 110GB SSD with about 20 GB spare.
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I'm not familiar with any of those SSDs you have listed(to be fair I basically go straight to Samsung ones(a 970 Evo Plus(a 480GB one is $40)). If you need Sata SSD over M.2 the 870 is roughly the same price for smaller storage sizes.
but you will notice a large bump in speed going to any form of SSD, going to a M.2 NVME drive though from a Sata SSD will be a much more marginal speed gain(I relatively recently upgraded from Sata to a M.2, boot time was reduced slightly and zone loading in path of exile had reduced slightly to(my ultimate goal, those who play know... those load times add up over time).
I would consider not getting anything smaller than a 480GB unless you only plan on having one big game installed at a time.
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Sadly the 870 EVOs are out of stock (the 500GB version) It was a fair price.
They still have some 250GB ones but at a whooping +200 dollars. The basterds are selling good old tech at a premium.
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The 860...hmm, I would need to check the used market and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna find the same pattern.
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They're selling them as premium SSDs, $50-60 USD for the 250GB ones.
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Most of the ssd's on the list you gave aren't the best for OS, they're more suited for storage only. If you want to install an OS i would recommend the "Kingston KC600" or the "Crucial MX500". And if you have a bit more money you can go for the "WD Blue" you listed, or even the "Samsung 870 EVO". Or you can just forget SATA and go straight to M.2 NVME, they're better overall.
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Cheap usually means crappy speeds - there is a reason why there are differences in prices.
I've personally stuck with Crucial and Samsung, but I've also used ADATA with good results.
240GB? You're wasting your time. 1TB is cheap as chips nowadays.
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i use a Samsung 850 EVO 256 GB as my OS drive since 2015 (recently moved it to the new PC from old one) and it still works like a charm, just don't forget to check on TBW (TeraBytes Written) parameter when choosing a SSD ( i think i used up my resource by 25% only)
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Without comparing brands as I've never had to, I can vouch for Kingston. I've had two "generations" of PCs with that brand of SSD and never had a failure. They are affordable and do a fine job.
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Here's a comparison of some of the 480 GB options, you can easily add more comparisons as you see fit... use google translate if need be: https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/compare/338748;1728692;1657710;1813724;587767;768525/
Specs sheets are linked at the bottom.
The PNY CS900 seems to be the best value for money over here.
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Check this database:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit#gid=0
If the SSD is for the OS (main drive), select a unit with DRAM, they are faster and more reliable. I'd recommend Samsung and Crucial, and never less than 500 GB (1 TB or more recommended).
None of the SSDs from the poll has DRAM.
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Hey, that's a bit unfair, if I could get the ones you're recommending (since someone else did) I would, but they aint no freaking 1TB BX models for the price you're telling either, they cost more than twice and they're out of stock. That could be a solid option for changing system next year and place the Crucial there.
I'm not that cheap 😑
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I usually look at people's steam profiles to figure out where they live, but you're a private person.
I've now worked out you live in Mexico. I didn't realise a country right next the U.S. would be getting shafted on prices.
I live in N.Z, so I'm used to paying more for tech, but you seem to have it much worse.
Welp, shit.
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Whatever you do, don't buy Team Group SSD. I have so many regrets.
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Crucial has been quite reliable for me. Check the MX series, if you'd like to. They had better warranty in place than Samsung for my region.
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Thanks, this info is gold, seems like SSDs are a thing from the past and NVme is the way to just like Hbarkas wrote in the first comment. The temps could be a concern since Its a really tight enclosure and the case only cools the HD with a small 40mm Antec fan, does a great job and keeps the WD HD at 45 degrees Celcius even if we were at 39 degrees with this last heat wave.
I really appreciate this info.
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I tried looking but I don't see you mention your motherboard or hint which Gen NVME drive your PC can handle
If the MB can only do Gen 3 and you aren't looking to update your whole PC in the next 2 years you are better of buying a Gen 3, in which case the WD Blue SN570 is a top Gen 3 performer and all round good deal.
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I'm using the following two SSDs in my laptop (not a gaming rig):
You could also look for SK hynix, I have one at work. I think it's a M2 NVME.
Be wary of Silicon Power, they have cheap and premium product lines.
I used a cheap one in the past, and it failed abruptly after 3 years of service.
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I've been using the Lexar NM620 and so far no issues, so that's one you might want to consider.
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All I can say is all my drives are currently WD Blue. I've got a 1TB NVME, 2x 500GB SSD's and a 2TB SSD. The 1TB NVME and 2TB SSD are fairly new, not even a year old, but the 2x 500GB's I've been using since 2017/2018. According to the WD Dashboard, one is sitting at 96% health, and the other 99%. Whether or not that means anything, no clue, but yah, WD has never really failed me early on. Worst scenario I've had with WD was an HDD failing about 13 or 14 years ago, but it was a few years old.
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Avoid wd green if you can, it's cheap dramless drive that uses Sandisk controller that loves to just burn out (WD has bought Sandisk some time ago)
Also no dram and no hmb = almost slower than ssd when it's almost full (or perhaps it was almost dying, haha)
There are a lot of threads that mention WD Green Milpitas on the internet (lockout mode that is super hard to retrieve data back from)
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Get at least 480Gb, smaller sizes are slower and you'll run out of space too fast. If you could post some links to shops you can purchase from and budget in your currency maybe we could have a look at what would be best.
If you are limited to SATA drives then TLC with DRAM cache would be best like the Samsung 870 EVO, Crucial MX500, SK Hynix Gold S31, SanDisk Ultra 3D. However, ANY SSD will be massively faster as a boot drive than an HDD. Out of just the ones you've listed I'd go for the Kingston A400 480Gb.
BTW, the OCZ/Toshiba Arc 100 you mentioned is really old (2014) and hasn't been made for years.
I guess prices are really bad in your country 😟 Here we can get the A400 / WD Green / Crucial BX100 480Gb for ~£20 (GBP).
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So I´ve been living under a rock and I´m very used to mechanical drives, at this point I´m not really sure if the difference in speed is abysmal between and SSD and a HD,
I know there´s a lot of people here that are used to SSDs, so I would like to know your experience with those models in terms of endurance/reliability since they´re the most common here atm, or maybe you could recommend something at that price rate, but I´m pretty sure It´s gonna be way more expensive. I always wanted resellers bring the OZC Arc 100 series by Toshiba at a fair price, but I´m dreaming.
From the list, the MSI Spatium S270 and the WD Blue SA510 are the only ones that give a 5 year warranty and the MSI one It´s transparent when It comes of what controller is using (Phison S11 from 2017). The other cheap models don´t even state which controller use, maybe Its the same?
I can´t even find the product page for the HP S650, maybe It´s just made for Latin America by some shady OEM so probably the worst choice.
I´m still very hesitant with SSDs but since Steam is leaving behind the old Operating Systems I might need one for Windows 10. Web browsers are getting way more heavier when It comes to opening too. So yeah...thanks in advance.
No giveaway because that will mess the whole purpose of this.
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