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Bait or not, I'm getting tired of seeing this shit literally everywhere. It couldn't get anymore counterproductive, but I guess most people making these posts just want to virtue signal so they don't even care how it effects the actual issue. If you want to alienate men from women's problem, this is the way to go. But then again, this might be what you're actually trying to achieve here, because then you could finally put your arms in the air and say "See? Men hate women, I told you so!"

After all, you people couldn't go a day without virtue signaling here and there - why on Earth would you want to have peace between the sexes?

chang all the words women with men thin you will have a good post

Don’t read a list like this and think that most of these don’t apply to you.

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you're crazy.

The jury's out on whether va3victis meant this seriously or ironically, but it's safe to assume the original author, Nicole Silverberg, was serious, and that's too bad, because although all or most of these "tips" are technically correct (and one would in fact hope that most people follow, understand, and/or subscribe to most of them intrinsically, on the basis of respecting people in general), the way of putting them here is really cringeworthy, especially the particular way she expresses them. And it's this kind of zealous way of expressing otherwise normal things that gives feminism a bad rap and alienates people (mostly men) from it. It's just... agh. Jeez. You can feel the author, in the tone this list is dripping with, very actively targeting you, the reader, and implicating you in the guilt of the things she is railing against here. That doesn't help anybody. There are men who do need to see things like this, though. But who knows if they would actually take these "ideas" constructively; with how confrontational the tone, again, of this list is, it's unlikely. What this accomplishes more than anything is for the author to let off some steam and for some like-minded readers to echo her self-righteous satisfaction with cries of, "Preach, girl!"

Hopefully, this doesn't contribute to a negative perception of feminism for people. Because this isn't a good or complete representation of it. I like to form an opinion of a thing based on the best of it, expressed by the more intelligent and eloquent people advocating it, rather than based on the worst, expressed by the loud and ignorant.

(Edit: Upon going back and looking at the first page, it looks like va3victis was indeed trolling, etc.)

Source: Nicole Silverberg

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So, pretty much you just want us men to live far, far away from women, on a spereate country and they live in theirs where we live without them and they without us so that we dont even take any risks to treat them as special little snowflakes. Gotta hate threads like this.

(If a woman says no to a date, don’t ask her again.) If this was the case for men that ask women out and also women that ask men out. A lot of us would not be married.There is no, not interested which settles that but, there is no for other reasons. Like ask me later, ending a relationship or, it could even just be bad timing. Maybe consider why first.

HAHAHAHA

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side note most women do not find the penis attractive. get killer abs instead.

There's something wrong with this woman called Nicole Silverberg.

I respect every person regardless of gender as long as they deserve it or earn it.
Gender has nothing to do with being an asshole, everyone is capable of acting like one.

Nope fuck you (though it's probably a troll so much it's egregious). I've been abused by a woman when I was young, and then after by my mother, and as a man I could never even consider talking or complaining not because of other men but other women. So why should men be apologising for things that either they didn't do or don't matter (so everything that is not actual physical violence, rape or sexual assault)?

Feminism is clearly a movement against equality, in fact it's a mysoginistic movement at the extreme opposite of original feminism: they don't want women to be considered as equal human, but as de-facto victims, deresponsibilised from anything, who therefor should have special treatment...nope I'm sorry but I'm an egalitarisy so I'm going to consider you equal with no more pity or sympathy than I do for men.

• Talk to your friend who is “kind of a creep” at work.

I generally don't have friends who tend to be "kind of a creep" at work, not that I'm aware of at least (if I was aware, chances are this person wouldn't be my friend).

• Don’t talk over women.

This should apply no matter what gender the person does or doesn't have.

• If you are asked to be on a panel/team and see that it’s all men, say something. Maybe even refuse the spot!

"something"...?

• When you see another guy talk over a woman, say: “Hey, she was saying something.”

...most women I know are fully capable of doing that themselves but yeah, if I notice that someone is trying to say something but keeps getting pushed down I do tend to try to acknowledge them...chances are they have something interesting to add. This has nothing to do with gender though, people who tend to talk over others do it to everyone.

• Learn to read a fucking room.

If your room requires reading, you better have poetic wallpapers or you're doing something wrong.

• Don’t call women “crazy” in a professional setting.

Because the professional term is "antisocial personality disorder".

• Don’t use your “feminism” as a way to get women to trust you. Show us in your day-to-day life, not in your self-congratulatory social media.

Basically, don't trust people who are actually trying to get you to trust them..if they have to try, then something is fishy about their intentions.

• Don’t touch women you don’t know, and honestly, ask yourself why you feel the need to touch women in general.

Don't touch people you don't know.

• Do you feel that any woman on earth owes you something? She doesn’t. Even if you’re like, “Hm, but what about basic respect?” ask yourself if you’ve shown her the same.

What does this mean? Everyone deserves to be treated with at least some basic respect..by default, that's not something you can owe someone. What you can owe someone who you haven't treated with respect would be maybe an apology.

• Don’t send pictures of your penis unless she just asked for them.

I wouldn't send one even if she did ask for it...what's wrong with you people?

• If a woman says no to a date, don’t ask her again.

What? Why not? Women aren't allowed to change their minds?

• If a woman has not given an enthusiastic “yes” to sex, back the hell off.

I have a hard time imagining being in a situation where sex is imminent but where the enthusiasm about it would somehow be in doubt.

• If a woman is really drunk, she cannot consent to you and she also cannot consent to your buddy who seems to be trying something. Your buddy is your responsibility, so say something and intervene.

I don't find really drunk women attractive but the opposite happens...I tend to not give my "consent" in those situations.

• If you do the right thing, don’t expect praise or payment or a pat on the back or even a “thank you from that woman”. Congratulations, you were baseline decent.

If you're doing something expecting a reward of some kind, it'd better be your job or some kind of agreement or you're likely trying to manipulate people into liking you.

• Involve women in your creative projects, then let them have equal part in them.

Fuck no. Seriously, no fucking way. I don't allow anyone else to touch my creative projects.

• Don’t make misogynistic jokes.

...unless they're funny. (the trick is knowing when a joke actually is funny..to others, not just to yourself..and wont be taken as something offensive).

• Don’t expect women to be “nice” or “cute” and don’t get upset when they aren’t those things.

This list was not written by a man because all men, who are still alive, know very well to not expect anything less than all women to be homicidal mani...people with antisocial personality disorders. (also, see previous points).

• Don’t make assumptions about a woman’s intelligence, capabilities or desires based on how she dresses.

Of course not?

• Pay women as much as you pay men.

For the same job, assuming they all have the required qualifications..of course. Don't pay anyone more or less because of their gender alone though (unless gender is somehow actually critical to the task but then why are you hiring someone of the wrong gender to begin with?).

• If a woman tells you that you fucked up, and you feel like shit, don’t put it on that woman to make you feel better. Apologize without qualification and then go away.

Wait, what? What's the point of telling anyone they fucked up if they then just up and go away? The whole point of telling someone they fucked up is to let them know they're doing it wrong so they can avoid doing it and/or start over and do it right? But yeah, don't ever take critique personally because more often than not it has nothing to do with you as a person.

• Don’t punish women for witnessing your vulnerability.

This needs a context for it to make sense, at least to me.

• Don’t get defensive when you get called out.

This is the same thing as the not taking shit personally point above.

• Don’t need to literally witness a man being horrible in order to believe that he’s horrible. Trust and believe women.

..again, context. Not sure what kind of people the person who wrote this is used to talking to.

• Don’t use your power to get women’s attention/company/sex/etc.

or men's...

• Be aware of your inherent power in situations and use it to protect women, especially via talking to other men.

...use it to protect people who can't protect themselves. Don't assume a woman needs or wants your protection just because she's a woman, that would be sexist af.

• Stop thinking that because you’re also marginalized or a survivor that you cannot inflict pain or oppress women.

I don't know people who are thinking like that, most people I see doing this are women doing it to other women who aren't agreeing with them about some issue or other.

• If women’s pain makes you feel pain, don’t prize your pain above hers, or make that pain her problem.

..which obviously goes for everyone, don't make your pain my problem unless you're invited to (edit: or if it's somehow my fault but this should be obvious).

• Don’t read a list like this and think that most of these don’t apply to you.

....or that it only applies to men, women, neither, both, other or whatever the fuck you identify as.

"Men of SG: have you ever mistreated women?"
Why does the poll not have a "No" option?

What the heck did I just read? It looks like some sort of preaching for a religion. Anyway, some phrases are just too funny :).

so what's the purpose of this literal shit post?

Men of SG: have you ever mistreated women?

No, but after reading this list i think i may start soon.
sarcasm hidden but still relevant