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...respecting whamen?

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I agree with some of the things you wrote but some I cannot get behind. Really if a woman dresses like a slut I'm sorry but that's just asking to be treated like one. Unless if it's a one off thing and she was going to say an event with her man but other than that if you want to look like a slut then you're going to be treated like one. I know sometimes women are indecisive well most of them are very indecisive so when they say something and if you get the vibe from them then maybe they want the other. I'm just using my past experience as example, my ex wanted to date me but she was waiting for me to make the first move and when I did make the first move it caught her off guard and she thought I was a "player" because I was so upfront with it. Through persistent she finally gave me a chance to take her out on a date even after saying "No" a bunch of times to me. But this just goes to prove that if you get the feeling or vibe then some of your points are wrong but it still is good to "read the room". Just note that some people are very oblivious, both men and women.

No.

I'm just wondering how blacklist/whitelist statistics have changed for TS today...

I didn't actually want to make a serious reply to this but it gets worse every time I see it. It's a perfect troll post. I always lose it at 'don’t read a list like this and think that most of these don’t apply to you' because most of those literally don't.

I currently work almost entirely with women. My boss is a woman. She feeds me cookies and I like her. There is no creepy guy at work for me to talk to. I have no opportunity to talk over women. I am usually the only man on any panel/team.

I can guarantee I have never made a self-congratulatory social media post about my feminism. I have also never even considered sending a picture of my penis to anyone under any circumstances.

I grew up with enough sisters to have cured me of thinking that women are nice or cute. I play tabletop D&D with my friends - they have enough trouble talking to women let alone me having to worry about them taking advantage of drunk ones.

This was surely written by somebody annoyed by one specific person that was sending her dick pics rather than men in general.

I just want her to cook better.

Half of them are shit, the other are for both TWO genders basic etiquette.

Pushing autism to the next level

If he's at work, I'm out of his way. I'm not his babysitter, and I'm not getting in the way of how things work at his job.

Don't talk over anyone already talking. This isn't women specific.

Again, if someone does and you feel inclined to step in, do it for men as well.

I don't actually know what it means to read a room, but I assume to know your audiance?

"Don’t use your “feminism” as a way to get women to trust you." Who owns a feminist? That sounds illegal?

Don't touch ANYONE you don't know. Why do these things all seem to be specific for women?

Do I feel any women on the planet owes me something? Yeah, I'm owed money for work I've done. Don't assume that I work for free -_-

"Don't send dick pics"? I WANT to say 'well duh' but I think this one is a bigger issue than I've dealt with, even though I personally have never been inclined to send any myself. So I don't want to downplay this one too much.

If a women says no to a date once, be fair to me and allow me to find out if it's "I don't think I want to at all" or simply "I'm busy that day, maybe another day" But yeah, hounding someone isn't cool.

'enthusiastic'? I don't think that's normal really. But yeah, it's not hard to tell when 'yes' means 'ugh... fine, if you'll shut up about it'. But come on, to say "If she doesn't say 'Yes! Take me!'" that it's unwanted, that's a bit absurd.

If a man is drunk and sleeps with a women, then any problems that causes is on him. If a women is drunk and does something stupid, that's on her. If you decide to get drunk, that doesn't absolve you of your own responsibilities. If you think 'If I get drunk, some guy might offer to bang me, and I might say yes' and that's somehow unacceptable, don't get drunk. You're not a child, and men aren't your babysitter.

If I do the right thing, I expect a 'thank you'. If it's too much effort from a woman to say "thanks", I'm not going to go out of my way to help such an ungrateful person later. This again, not gender exclusive. I don't help anyone who is above saying "thanks for the help".

"Involve women in your creative projects, then let them have equal part in them." Well, if they have the knowledge about the subject to help, yeah. But I'm not holding out a "women needed for game design" sign out. And I'm not accepting the 'help' of someone who I have to teach the system to. Reguardless of gender. Making a gender quota is sexist, and I insist anyone who demands having at least X people, or X % of any given gender to also be sexist.

I'll make jokes about anything. I'll make jokes about sexual abuse, murder, racisim. Once you make a line, then you need to start sorting which things are 'worse'. Is sexisim worse than racisim? I don't know, and I don't care. But I'm not going to say 'you can't joke about that!'. Just know your audiance. Yeah, you don't make racist jokes around people who you know won't like them. But when you've got a circle of friends, go for it and have fun. A joke is a joke because it's NOT meant to be taken seriously.

I expect everyone to be nice. This isn't gender exclusive. And if someone is a butt, I'm not going to say "well... you have X in your pants, so it's okay."

I'm totally going to make assumptions about her capibilities based on how she dresses. If she goes out with mismatched socks, a mini skirt, and a tube top. I'm not going to see her on the same level as a women in a suit. Just like I don't see guys who go out wearing
overalls and one of those stupid hats with room for drink cans to be the same as a guy wearing a labcoat. I mean yeah, to say "She's wearing a teeshirt? Must be stupid" is one thing, but you can tell a lot about a human by the way they dress, their taste in music, or the way that they walk. This isn't gender exclusive.

Wait, I can pay women LESS than men? "Dudes, you're all fired. I'm hiring ONLY women and saving whatever percent on the dollar to have women working." You see, if I COULD pay someone less for the same job, this is EXACTLY what would happen.

If a women tells me I'm screwed up, I at least want to be told what I did. Again, I do the same thing with guys. Don't assume anything is gender exclusive.

I don't know who punishes anyone for seeing vulnerbility, and I can assume that men would see the same response.

I DO get defensive when I'm called out. Either say what I did, or I'm taking it as an attack. If I DID do something, yeah I'll try and fix it or try and do better. But if I'm called out or challenged, I'm game to play ball. Let's go!

"Don’t need to literally witness a man being horrible in order to believe that he’s horrible. Trust and believe women." If I'm told 'he beat me, and robbed me, and forced himself on top of me'.... I'm going to need some sort of proof, or sign before I lytch or condem a guy. Just because someone SAYS something doesn't make it true. Now if the women in question has been shown to be honest before, there's a fair chance that I'll take that into account and work on less up front proof. But I can show you a number of videos where on film, a man approches a women, she gets upset and claims he's sexually harassing her, attempting to force himself on her, or performing sexual actions on someone else, while in a public place, while still fully dressed... so yeah, I'm going to need some proof before taking something said at face value.

Everyone uses their power to get attention, company, sex, etc. Be it status on a social ladder, money, information, looks, etc. Don't make it out like it's something only one gender does. It's the nature of humans.

What inherented power? I'm a 115 pound white guy with glasses and a mean stare. No one is intimidated by me, or thinks anything about me besides "So, he's a guy.... anyway, where was I?" and I'm not about to butt into other's business because some damsel may be in destress. I'm not the police, it's not my place to get involved.

I can't oppress women, I have no power, nor drive to. Nor do I even talk to humans on a daily bases. I sit behind my computer, and do what I do. Gender literally never comes up to me outside of the porn that I watch. And the porn that I watch is my business and no one else's.

"If women’s pain makes you feel pain, don’t prize your pain above hers, or make that pain her problem." I put my issues above the issues of someone I don't know. Her being a women doesn't make her special in that reguard. I just try and deal with me.

"Don’t read a list like this and think that most of these don’t apply to you." Most of this DOES fail to apply to me. This list basically says "Women are equal and just as good as men" but ALSO say "Women need your help, save the scared little puppies from the big mean dogs!" You can't be 'just as strong' AND 'disadvantaged' at the same time.

For some women it's a no win situation.

if you treat the woman better you are sexist
if you don't you are also sexist
If you ignore women altogether, you are you got it. STILL SEXIST

Anyone claiming to be equal to or better than someone else but then asking for special treatment can't call themselves equal or better, and someone else calling for special treatment on behalf of another is doing more harm than good.

Most of my female friends are fed up with this sort of thing because they feel it's holding them back. They don't want to be treated differently because they're an innie and not an outie (not my words, repeating what some of them have said) and consider "helpful lists" like this just as bad as legitimate harassment. Most women I know do not need or want to be handled with kid gloves and the ones that do are not unique because there are plenty of fragile men too.

i am the only man in the office. i have seen things, evil things

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I think your survey is totally crap. I am sorry you hate men so much, but most men are good people and you are being very discriminate and hateful, because of a few bad experiences. Perhaps it is you who has a tenancy to attract shitty men, that is your problem.

TLDR: There's 2 kind of human in this world: woman and not woman

When I was about 20 I realized a very simple thing about how to treat women...
If I treat the women around me the same way that I treat the men around me, I get very similar results, and people seem to be quite happy about how I treat them. So that's been how I've been doing it since them. I should have figured that one out a bit earlier :P

This article the balls on the person who posted this..

"If a woman says no to a date, don’t ask her again."

Really?My first date took more than one ask to get her to go out.I was not overbearing or pressured I took my time.At the time she said one of the reasons she said no was that she wanted to see how I would respond and she said that is one of the reasons she said yes because of how I responded.She wanted to see if I really liked her and was serious and not just asking in hopes for some quick fun.

Yes If I followed her advice I would have never gone on that date and met my first love.Yes, clearly she has the best advice ever.She makes some good points but most of them are not just guy things.The fact that she starts this out as a work issue than also throws as an everyday issue.

"Don’t expect women to be “nice” or “cute” and don’t get upset when they aren’t those things."

Yet if I do any of those I'm a jerk/asshole but it's okay for women to not be nice or cute and were not suppose to be upset but they get upset when we are.Yes, no bias in this article ...

The fact remains both sides abuse there sexual orientation to get what they want and arguing about who's side is worse is like two alcoholics arguing over who is the bigger drunk.We all can treat each other better since there is always room for improvement on both sides unless you're willing to claim you don't need any improvement because you're flawless.

This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZDQ2FQAsNA

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Just treat everyone equally. No need to waste your time on reading feminist articles favoring women.

Don’t send pictures of your penis unless she just asked for them.

Just don't.. even if she asked for it...

Don’t make misogynistic jokes.

I felt that.

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I think that we had a thread about this subject days ago, i don't mind it being repeated or somehow 'increased', but talking by experience, saturation sucks and it'll always create the opposite from awareness which is ignore or worst.

I'm talking like this because in Brazil we are so saturated with people talking about it and yeah, i'm totally in the girls side when it comes to privacy, respect, etc, but i know that there's some who use subjects like your to propagate hateful things like femism¹, racism and hate itself.

Femism: Is a term used to separate people who make bad use of feminism that i saw over there, i don't even know if it's worldly widespread.

You've got a very valid point and while it comes off as a bit aggressively worded ,I can honestly do nothing but support you.

Also so many triggered people.

ok :l

Cant stop laughing. Good job

Men of SG

kek there are no men on SG.

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