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Either way the prices seem way too high at the moment (just like on that other website that deals in CS:GO items) so it's not worth the risk of using a site like G2A (though it does make it way easier to convert earnings I suppose)

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not really much risk using g2a. it's an ebay for key resellers.

though in this case, i'd avoid the ones with 100,000 + sales, probably. i've never had a problem buying from 300 - 20,000. if you get a bad key, go to resolution center. don't waste money on 'shield' (remember to turn it off in both places, that pos) or 'select offer'

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Why avoid those?

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1) 'selected offer' provides no value at all in the first place.

2) why do you need the 'g2a shield' when you can select the seller you buy from? It's the same thing as eBay. If you buy from decent sellers, then you have no need for shield. Only difference for me really between ebay and g2a, is that on ebay, I wouldn't avoid some seller with 50,000 FB's, but I would on g2a (because they would be less likely to 'waste' time responding to resolution center cases, and for that quantity, must just be selling massive amt of regional keys that don't have region locks)

ed: oh, I guess you were talking about the huge sellers. I'd avoid those ppl because I don't use g2a shield, and don't want to waste my money on it. It also seems to me like they must be getting a lot of negs removed, at least some of them. like the 'UK' bot sellers at 800k+.

last problem I had w/ a key, was for some $1 key. i opened a res center case, told guy what had happened, said that I know they make sellers eat fees when they have to refund buyers and didn't want to give him a neg (since I had bought some other stuff from him, was following his feedbacks around, since he had some good deals), so just asked him to make me a voucher for $1. it would have cost him around $1.45 to refund me (as he would have ate the $0.38 or so USD from successful auction plus 8 cents commission). if the buyer uses steam guard + selected offer (!) they eat those fees also. note that person selling never gets anything from selected offer, except money seized from the top of their account and put back in the 7 or 14 day waiting period

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they are listing those items 5 cents lower than the steam market... a super deal for the seller

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I don't know. You have to pay 15 euro cents to list an item, then 35cents upon sale,,,, on top of the 8% fee... Not the best deal for the seller.

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so it's even worse than the cut from valve. :O

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Of course. Valve makes its money from game sales, so they can afford to have "only" 10% cut from market transactions on items from their own games (and 5% on any other). G2A's main source of income is the flea market, so they issue insane rates. This is why you see even free keys for almost half Euros there, since this is the amount where the seller at least makes a few cents.

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Also, we use steam wallet for those transactions. Steam doesn't have to pay any transaction fees, while g2a has to pay when you pay with, for example, paypal, instead of g2a wallet.

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Yeah, although G2A makes the buyer pay those fees, not the seller. So they can equally skin everyone! :D

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Never seen it actually enforced but passing on fees is actually against Paypals terms

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Buy anything on G2A, select PayPal, see the price immediately rise about 40 Eurocents, even stating that it is a PayPal transaction fee.
As for against policy… G2A is hardly even legal, so that is a moot argument when it comes to them anyway. :/

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Which is why I noted I'd never seen it enforced. As in anywhere, not just with G2A

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Well, I never seen the prices increase because of PayPal anywhere else… not even for the one-dollar Groupees bundles, where for a time PayPal was the only way for me to pay… so for me G2A kinda stood out.

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Its commonplace anywhere individuals sell product as opposed to companies. Any legitimate business seller will either eat those costs as part of doing business online or mark their prices up and not dump any extra costs on at checkout. In fact in some areas the displayed price has to include all taxes and other charges so what you see is what you pay.

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Sadly, not even amazon does that. They show the final price after VAT, but only at the very last step of checkout, when only a final click remains. This is why I always have to do an almost full order process if I want to compare prices on anything, because while I can tell the price with VAT (flat 1.27 multiplier), the shipping slways seems to be a little random (not knowing when I switch package sizes).

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"Some areas". I've seen comments here indicating that some US states include tax on Steam whilst others don't. UK stores for appropriate customers will include at the very least the VAT.

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California has a 7.5% state sales tax that would apply for Valve. I don't have to pay the Texas state sales tax since Valve doesn't have any branches in Texas

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What's not legal about it? What are the laws regarding owned digital products where you live?

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I meant not legal as in nobody ever saw any trace of the company ever paying taxes anywhere.
Also, I'm somewhat sure the fact that they let you choose your own VAT category could get them sued in most any Western countries for tax fraud if they wouldn't have registered under a Hong Kong address to avoid these kinds of questions and problems.

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Oh, that may be true, re: VAT. Not sure how that works, since I'm in US and not subject to it (and don't run a business).

I've been told that you are subject to VAT, unless you claim that you aren't in EU during the checkout phase (there is some country selector?).... anyway, yeah, I imagine that does run afoul of VAT regulations.

Other places I've done business w/, like hetzner or OVH, I have to send identification to to prove that I'm in US. But lots of smaller hosting companies don't require that, either.

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Yeah, new sellers get to list their first 10 items 'for free', which is why you always see a bunch of stuff selling for what amounts to a loss (they don't read ToS on the flat completed auction fee + commission)

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Well, easier to cash my items now which is nice. Too bad the system is on alpha and doesn't work for me at all.

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I believe accounts created after January 2015 get the 2 weeks hold. Accounts created before january 2015 just have to wait a week.

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Yeah, if you want to safely cash out your items, there are better places than G2A.

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Comissions are pretty high but if you sell multiple copies of the same item in a batch, it gets a lot cheaper. Payout fee's aren't really that much and I only have to wait for 1 week.

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YUP! I love when I sell 4 of the same game in a single transaction. Solid 1.05Euro savings there.

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ak safari mesh for 1 euro.. what a deal.

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+1 if lucky, even less.
with g2a/valve fees, it is way better buy keys in game for me.

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No, thanks.

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lol at the price

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Five-Seven | Forest Night -> 500.00€ instabuy for me

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