Yeah Lugum, keep strong and don't fall back to your old habits.
Alcohol is one of the worst drugs because of its widespread availability and the high toxicity. It causes severe damage to the entire body and organs, and if you wanna live you should stop entirely!
Your liver will recover if you keep it sober from alcohol.
How about cannabis, Lugum? I know for a fact that it helps to overcome alcohol withdrawal symptoms and I also mean the psychological craving. Instead of the occasional drinking on weekends I would just pick cannabis if you are in desperate need for an altered state of mind. ;)
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As much as i'm a cannabis user, i wouldn't advise replacing one vice with another. After 15 weeks most withdrawal symptoms already waned off anyway.
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I mean the psychological craving for an altered state of mind.
Of course I don't advise him to replace alcohol with cannabis. He was drinking on a daily basis and I never recommend the recreational use of cannabis so often. Once in a while it's ok.
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Your liver can recover a big deal but if you went to far there will always be scarring (cirrosis) and that can't heal and usually result in liver transplants.
In a previous reply already mentioned thankfully i don't suffer those withdrawal symptoms, though the stress remains.
I am not into cannabis, also costs money and i don't want to smoke (same as cigarettes) though you even got it in chocolate form and such.
I got prescribed oxazepam to take some edges of the stress, and yes doctors will go it might lead to addictions too but i don't need more, i don't have an habit forming, if things get better or just even a job i can't go taking them much either, and i got no problems not taking them.
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Ok I get it.
Be careful with Oxazepam, it's also a very addictive drug. ;)
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Do you already suffer from cirrosis? :(
Even then it's not too late to stop. The liver can handle a shitload of toxics and will recover to a healthy enough state if the cirrosis hasn't progressed that much!
Sorry I forgot to congratulate you to your 15 weeks abstinence! That's really a great achievement!
Good luck with your jobcoach!
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No doctor said i could fully recover if i kept stopping alcohol, but i googled (usually a stupid thing to do offcourse) but it was a big worry, that it could have been, so i am informed about the whole trajectory.
Thank you.
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In the past i had a slight drinking problem, it wasn't uncommon for me finding chugging warm beer all alone on a bench just to get the buzz. Thankfully i had to quit because my meds do not go along very well with alcohol. Congrats on your ongoing recovery.
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Thank you though when they are ice ice cold they taste the best offcourse. ;)
Kidding aside,i really hope you can maintain sober too. wish you the best.
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I'm not completely sober yet, i just reduced my consumption to a couple of beers or liquor glasses per week. The last time i actually got drunk was a couple of months ago. As long as you aren't a full blown alcoholic, you can still enjoy alcohol once in a while, provided that you've resolved whatever issues afflicted you (or just replaced alcohol with another vice, like i did).
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Congrats on recognizing a problem within yourself and then actually having the strength to do something about it.
I too had my fun drinking every weekend but have since stopped (save special occasions).
I just don't see any health, financial or really any social benefit in it (whether I was out drinking with friends or sober I had the same amount of enjoyment) alcohol just gave me a false feeling of content and hangovers haha
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Thanks.
Yeah just way more benefit if you actually won't drink, health and financial wise, after some alcohol you might feel great for a short period, but if you got some (major) hangover it just comes back twice as hard the day after (especially if you tend to have depressing thoughts).
Hope you find strength too in staying sober in the non special occasions stages.
Though those special occasions can be pitfalls, though only you know your strength.
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Congrats on the 15th week of sobriety, your liver is already thankful!
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Thanks, knew that bit watched that show alot on comedy central and on bbc, even it's endless reruns (when they also would just air old star trek episodes, and was still a good channel).
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Congratulations that you change something. It needs courage and strength to look on bad things you do AND to change them.
For sure the better way and i respect that :o)
My illness teached me to never drink when in a bad mood.
I always pay with open wounds, pain, blood loose and montezumas revenge -very much and fast running to the toilet at that and the next day-.
And besides of my illness stuff it never helped too at the time before i was ill. It was best a "push away the problems" but solved nothing and make it harder to handle the situations in the end.
So i can't advice, in general, to drink.
When i drink, !!! A BIT !!!, in a good mood i mostly don't have problems.
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Thank you. :)
In the end i "easilly" had to go to the bathroom 5 times a day, the day after, that was also one of the pointers that it wasn't worth it to me anymore and yes drinking is also a temporary fix, especially with a hangover it will come back just twice as hard.
Just better still though to never drink period, when your body is giving physical signs then it's usually already a good warning, don't fall for the if i drink a little or am in a good mood it must be okay, i hope you can find that strength someday to just fully stop.
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I think you get me a bit wrong with my drinking habits.
I drin maybe 3x/year and never much. 1 glass is mostly enough to be very funny, I need lesser as each gf i had^^. And at that level i stop ;o)
I never have more then MAYBE a little headache.
But by open wounds in the bowel the alcohol isn't good at that body part and each one that ever got alcohol at wounds know from what i talk.
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Well dunno i think still slightly,
I mean with those open wounds (whatever you mean with it) but even without just regardless why put yourself to even those few drinks?
Your own choice offcourse, and if it works for you, no need to stop.
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Maybe look at wikipedia for "colitis ulcerosa". I have a very heavy form of it (much more then the there shown one).
Its easier that way as i explain it very long. I think the pictures should be enough^^ and maybe the explanation that my immunsystem thinks my thick bowel is a enemy and must be attacked (from that comes the wounds and stress get my immunsystem in fight mood -_-)
Why i drink that few drinks.
It is a pleasure to drink sometimes a mead with a gf or friends. A middleage market isn't the same without it. And partly to hold myself a bit of the "normal life" and don't want give up all.
If i done only what the docs said i had much lesser pleasure in my life and not a better health in the end too.
By a chronic illness that you have over 20 years you learn to look on signs. And choose wisely what you can eat/drink/do at that day/time and what you will regret or better don't should do.
As easy example i avoid to eat a lot of pepperonis but i really like greek ones (they aren't soo extremly spices as the italian ones). They are one of very few things that i don't want give up completly with the known risk too.
My docs say "never it them".
My wish say "eat a lot and often" (i can do that daily only with bread and butter).
My body say "sometimes are 1-5 ok but if you eat 10 or 20 you have a lot of heavy/extremly burning pain for 2 days and you will curse yourself each time you must go to the bathroom^^".
So i try to eat it only 3x/year and if i forgotten how high the price for more then 5 are then my body repeat that lesson and remember me very soon on it :-D
Humans tend to forget bad stuff............
(so i repeat that lesson sooner or later, with each year of a illness you know better what you can make and what not)
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Glad to read you're in good shape and in the right path to get rid of alcohol frim your diet. Put some exercise in your daylife and you'll completely heal your liver. ๐
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Thanks, ๐ yeah that's currently hoping on good weather (and i know you can do indoor activities but then its procastrinating). :p
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๐ค Having some execise partners definitely help with procastrinating ๐คฉ.
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Thanks for telling us, I pray you will get more better :)
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Congratulations Lugum! Good to hear you're doing better. I've had a weakened heart from birth, and been reminded constantly to run to improve it. Good habits are difficult to build and bad habits are tough to get rid of. I've conquered my own health and have a pretty strong heart now, but now I'm trying to get my mother to do the same. She had a couple of heart attacks the last few years which has done a lot of damage to her heart. Hoping she will get that lightbulb soon and get better before it's too late.
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Thanks, yeah i also have cardiomyopathy (its unclear how it progresses so far it's all good, could stay that way or could end up with a pacemaker thing and a bag full of meds like my dad, and mild diabetes type 2 (also all the more reason to quit this).
I had an old classmate like 3 years ago asking me to jog with him (though he Always stood me up so went alone) i thought yeah right this isn't for me, almost laughed at that idea, but i kept persueing it.
Maybe your mom also needs to go through that first time. ;) although once you reach a certain age they might go like what's the use still, and maybe the weather is also holding her back then maybe a threadmill just inside would do it for her, then she can run her own tempo, she can even have a tv hanging above it and watch her favorite tv show.
And hey even still a normal walk is still better then nothing.
Hope she gets that moment. :)
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Thanks :)
Unfortunately she injured her back and needs a walker to get around. Thanks for the treadmill idea :)
Well as long she lives with me, I'll do what I can to encourage her.
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Oh yeah that makes things more difficult can maybe try a gym one time if it works before lugging a thing in your house and it gets neglected, though good for yourself too. ;)
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Keep up the good work! As we get older our health becomes more important. We can't go back in time and change the decisions we made when we were younger, but we can control what we decide to do about it now and tomorrow. :)
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Thank you, and yeah that's the wisest way to look at it, if only we could travel back in time to our younger selfs to warn about mistakes we would be making, think alot would want that. :p
It's why we are human, to make mistakes and hopefully learn from it (allthough not everyone does it).
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Cheers with Tea or Water to your Health!
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Congratulations on good results of echo and such a long period of sobriety, keep it up!
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Man, i was very confused in your opening lines at first "While i sometimes had periods i was also taking a few glasses during normal days" as in women periods. XD good to hear yous... healthy? !
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Well i could have been a women you never know on the internet. ;) I changed a few words maybe that makes it a little clearer.
Thank you. :)
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Quitting an addiction is no laughing matter. I know your liver will love you for it as much as my lungs love me for similar reasons.<3
Kudos on getting through 15 weeks... that's amazing!
Obligatorily BUMP!
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Guessing smoking. ;)
Thanks and hope you keep it up too.
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Yup. Five years this July of being smoke-free.
Lots of thanks, and I'll be sending you some encouraging vibes your way. Best of luck and keep it up! You really are doing a great thing for yourself. :)
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Congrats to your liver for making some recovery. Drinking too much has a stacking effect. Your liver becomes enlarged and there are all kinds of side effects on body. Everyone has his/her own vices, some just keep them under control a little better.
My own one is overweight, but I have a scale and I check once or twice a week, so that I can reflect the effects of my nutritional (mal-)choices regularly and take some counter-measures.
I hope you can stay on the recovery course!
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I do exercise. However, I hurt my foot a weeks ago and it takes some time to be good again. So I am on very light training right now.
Life has setbacks ready for you.
But remember this:
You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward.
Rocky Balboa :)
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My whole life really just been a setback so far (and not complaining about it).
Started at birth when i was one out of a quadruplet, the others didn't make it, so guess from there already i missed something which impacted the whole rest of my life.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger that sort of stuff, but stilll hoping for that sweet to come after all the sour.
And The great wise Balboa. :p
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A huge Congratulations to you! I am glad that you can expect a full recovery! I hope it will recover fully and leave no long-term side effects!
To anyone else out there who does not yet drink alcohol--please do not start, unless ordered by a doctor (and even then, get a second opinion). It may look cool, but the consequences--including damage to your body--can be major, even life-altering or causing premature death. It is not something to trifle with.
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Hey man, good to hear you've commited yourself to a healthier lifestyle. Good luck! I guess I'll have to research what small amounts can do longterm
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To my liver, i was, maybe rightfully so because of my drinking, worried about it for some time, which i couldn't check for way more then a year, because you know, finances, but also a bit of fear.
While sometimes i also had periods i was also taking a few glasses during normal days, more over i was one of those weekend binge drinkers (and don't think thats any better then drinking a few each day), playing TF2 and just having my 90's retro dance music on.
Never judge anyone doing so, to each their own and we all got our reasons, but i wish i was more educated and warned 20 years ago, you might think even small amounts won't matter much and while that offcourse also differs per person and heck even studies say small amounts are good while others will say small amounts are bad.
But don't forget in the end you are basically just giving poison to yourself, if anyone just reading it, don't put yourself to it, even if you got problems, stress it might help short term, but long terms effects will be alot more problematic for you, atleast inform yourself about it.
Yesterday i had my echo done and it looked the same as a couple of years ago, though my blood values showed my liver had to work a little extra, but while it might be different for each person there is a good chance on a full recovery if i just stop completely, and i been doing so for 15 weeks and no desire to go back to it (and thankfully for me personally i don't have these urges others might get).
Getting some wellfare and a jobcoach hopefully that will be able to help me out, although the moment i had an appointment her mother passed away so it's probably take another couple of weeks.
Posted a little reply here to give a small idea on what my drinking habit was, if anyone is interested.
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/AlfFqA5
Also did you know? The liver just doesn't filter out poison, it handles the melatonine (natural hormone that makes you sleep), filters out stress, and probably alot more, so be gentle with it. :)
Not much, but hey it's something. https://www.steamgifts.com/giveaway/rkUng/som-soul-of-mask
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