My ex-roommate is the primary tenant, so he received all of the security deposit. He sent me my portion, but it was ~$300 short. Is it worth the time and money to bring him to small claims court? After all expenses, it might end up costing me more than what I am fighting for. He lives hours away from me, so it would take several hours just to bring him to court. Should I just chalk it up as an expensive lesson learned and hope karma catches up to him? Or should I follow through and sue him? I'm leaning towards putting it behind me. But at the same time, I'd hate to let him get away with his scummy actions.

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Karma -always- comes around.

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Are saying is that he did something bad and this is his karmic punishment?

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Two edged sword :-)

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I'm a good person and I don't believe I deserved this. However, I believe in karma. One of the worst people I knew ended up passing away from a heroin overdose. I'm not happy about it but at the same time, I don't feel remorse because all he did was torment others. He also stole hundreds from me in the past so I might be biased. I think karma will catch up to my ex-roommate and I will be compensated for my losses.

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Karma is a myth.

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One of the worst people I knew ended up dying from an overdose. I think karma is real to some extent. If you're a really good person, you're more likely to have good things happen to you, and vise-versa.

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All situations could happen without having to be mutually exclusive from each other.

Good things happen to good people, bad things happen to bad people; but at the same time:
Bad things happen to good people and good things happen to bad people.

There is not necessarily a correlation, but on the first case we tend more easily to make a connection between the actions and the outcome.

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One of the worst people I know went to Harvard and is having a perfectly good life after graduating. Some choices could be stupid, and come back to bite you. But if you are a smart enough xxxhole to choose and pick your xxxholery, the rest is random.

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If a girl gets rape is that karma? I don't think so. Karma is a myth, I don't believe in it.

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I'm not saying that karma applies to everything. Of course bad things happen to good people, and vice-versa. But I believe that if you're a bad person all your life, you're more likely to have bad things happen to you. Maybe this is just confirmation bias though.

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No. You're either smart and get away with it, or dumb and get bad results.

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Not wanting to bash your worldview or anything, but where do dying babies fit into karma? Their parents were so bad that the kids somehow deserved to die horribly? Or, in their few hours/days/weeks of life they were so evil that they earned their death?

Karma may be a comforting theory, but bad things happen to good people all the time.

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I'm not saying that karma applies to everything and everyone. Good things happen to bad people all the time and vice-versa. But I think there is a correlation between being a bad person and having it catch up to you in some form.

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OK, fair enough.

I have no belief whatsoever in karma - but I do think being a terrible person is its own punishment. Genuine contentment and happiness are not easy to find, and I'm convinced that if you're an unpleasant person, you'll never get close - I just don't think that's because of any external mystical force balancing things out. If you're unpleasant, then you'll spend every second of every hour of every day of your life being constantly in the presence of an unpleasant person, and having to hear their petty, selfish, hateful thoughts. That's a fine definition of hell, to my mind...

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That's a good way of seeing it. It's kind of like the idea that giving gifts to others brings the most happiness. So if you're a very giving person, you're more likely to be happy. And it makes sense that the flip-side would also be true.

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Karma is a completely general hypothesis about reaping what you sow in proportion to the good and bad you do.

So, anecdotes can't confirm it; but they can disconfirm it. It only takes one person who doesn't get all that they deserve to disprove it.

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Still waiting the +$2000 from "friends" owes me. Good time now to be in bankruptcy and with MDD, full around of this friends, yes karma doesn't exists.

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If karma is true, does every leech eventually get blacklisted?

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did you talk to him?
i don't know how it works where you live, but small claims court usually doesn't cost much. since you are sueing, you can choose the location.
if he is a no show in most cases you will win

that doesn't mean he will pay you back even after judge says so.

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He's stolen from me the in past. When I tried talking to him about it, he avoided me for the next few days and then pretended like it never happened. I don't think it is worth trying to talk it out because I'm confident he would simply ignore me. And now that I don't live with him anymore, I won't be able to confront him. I was thinking about having a lawyer write a demand notice to him, but I don't think it is worth all the trouble to go to court over $300.

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google a form online.
make it yourself. if you must spend money, doesn't worth it.

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If it's worth it to you to consider a lawsuit, it's probably worth it to have a conversation. Who knows, maybe he'll send it, or maybe even the landlord took out $600 for carpet cleaning and such.

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get over it and learn from it for the next time. 300 bucks is not a cheap lesson indeed, but it could be worse, couldn't it?

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I agree it could be worse and I'm leaning towards letting it go and hoping karma catches up to him. I hate the idea of letting him get away with it, but I believe that his actions will catch up with him.

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I feel ya buddy. happens to everyone sooner or later. just let go and Karma will do the rest one day.

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No chance to be smarter than him and get money back on your own?

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I am smarter than him without a doubt. But this doesn't apply to my situation. The only way I could get money back on my own is if I outright stole from him, which I will not do. He was the primary tenant, so he is in charge of all of the funds.

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Well, you don't have to steal back to teach him a lesson... You could eg. do something to scare the sh!t out of him... I know he's not your friend (nor best friend), but here's the hint what I am thinking about...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a4/af/93/a4af93f74076d7f94f62e2e31247d6f4.jpg

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Can't help you if you should sue him or not. But I have another stupid question: Did you try talking it out with him? If yes, does he claim innocence or play a fool or etc.... Or did you not bother asking at all. Maybe it is a misunderstanding, maybe you did not receive the full deposit back since the room was not in best condition anymore, was there maybe a third tenant, maybe you remember the security depost wrongly. Have a some kind of proof what amount for the deposit payed in the first place?

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He's a scumbag. He was in charge of utilities too, and the one time I asked to see the billing for utilities (since I was suspicious that the price kept going up), he avoided me for the next few days and pretended like it never happened. We had another roommate, and I compared my payments with his and I found out that I was paying extra every single month. I didn't bring it up because I didn't want to start trouble with someone that I lived with, but now I don't think I can accept him stealing hundreds from me. I want to sue him but I don't think it is worth the trouble..

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That sounds like it's totally worth the trouble. If you let him keep your money now, you just let him win. If he really is the dick you say he is, I'd sue the hell out of him. But I have strong principles. If someone wrongs me, I make sure they pay for it, one way or another...

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One option is;

Sue including court costs.

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Before filing a lawsuit, go talk to him and ask for the money, threaten to sue, if they don't deliver, do sue, as someone said above, including court costs.

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Did you talk to him? Did he actually get the full amount back? Maybe something was wrong and he didn't get all of it either?
My sister rented out her apartment and the guy left it a mess (and apparently rented it out to tourists illegally), so she won't give him the deposit back. He threatened to sue ("You don't know who you're dealing with, my uncle's a lawyer"), so she'll just send him a bill for the repairs/damages (about twice the deposit).

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I contacted the landlord and found that we were charged a small fee for damages. I have no issue with that, since it would cost me only about $66. However, he is charging me ~$300, more than all of the damage deductions combined.

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Are you in the states? Triple damages related to housing issues. so 300 could become 900

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Triple damages only applies to the landlord. Suing my ex-roommate would only get me back the ~$300, minus expenses. After the time and money it would take to get it back, I don't think it is worth the trouble...

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See it from his viewpoint. 300 + expenses is a lot. If he receives sort of punishment, he might think before doing it a nxt time. Now it's 300. He might do alot more damage to others if he knows nobody will sue him

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I understand that. I'd hate to hear that he does the same to others. But my family is going through a rough time and I don't want to put them through unnecessary stress. I believe in karma and I think it will catch up to him.

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it would be $300 minus damages plus expenses. Make sure you add your expenses to the claim (include the court filing fee and service processing fee, if applicable). Make sure you bring proof of everything: proof of how much security deposit you paid in the beginning of the year, proof of how much your roommate sent you, proof of any damages charged by the landlord. any emails between you and your roommate. (did you ask him/her for the money in an email?)

Big question. Do you and your roommate live in the same state? If so, check your state's forum rules. In some states, you can sue at your local courthouse rather than your roommate's. If s/he lives in another state, you have two choices. You can sue in his/her state, or, you can sue in the state where the incident occurred. However, process can only be served while s/he is in the state, and you can't bring him/her into the state under false pretenses just to serve process.

Feel free to hit me up on an old GA if you want to discuss in details
legal disclaimer: I'm not an admitted attorney in whichever state you're living in (probably). I am not rendering legal advice specific to your situation. I will only discuss general matters and not case specifics.

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Honestly, the only way to deal with such scumbags is to make them afraid of you, one way or another..... And avoid dealing with them at all costs once you find out what they are like. They probably are well aware you wouldn't go to court for that, since it would cost you more money and a lot of time too, so they think they can get away with it. If you are really mad to the person and you are aware they have done that before to other people (or they might do it in the future), better do something about it, although, indeed, it will cost you a lot of time and money in the end.

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I have no idea if he's done the same to others. I am in no position financially to spend money in order to teach him a lesson. I am going to chalk it up to as a loss, and hope that karma catches up to him. Luckily, I probably won't ever have to deal with him ever again.

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I think that your ex-room mate should be learning the lesson not you, if you do not receive what you are owed there needs to be some kind of punishment.

I am sorry but stealing no matter how easy it was should not be allowed otherwise that person will continue to do it in the future (even if not to yourself).

Perhaps I am a little more negative than average against this point, but not unreasonable.

Of course it does depend on your financial situation and your feelings towards him.

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Yeah, I am in no financial position to spend money in order to teach him a lesson. If I had a bunch of money, I would gladly sue him and show him that he can't keep getting away with it. He's stolen from me in the past, but nothing to this extent. I wish I could teach him a lesson but I cannot afford to do so. I believe in karma and think that he'll eventually get what's coming to him.

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People's Court or Judge Judy.

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I think you should sue him: If the guy does this often and doesn't suffer from it, he will do it forever. Also 300 bucks is quite much, I would fight for it in this case :)

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It would cost me some money and many hours to do this though

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Yeah, the costs could be the downside of this unless you can also make him pay those. I hate guys like him so I wish that you will get somekind of compensation at least :/

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karma-shmarma.... just kill him

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¡Viva disproportionate responses!

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If karma doesn't come by itself, help it... Has he got a car? Pierce his tyres... all 4 of them!
Then remember me to delete this comment.

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lol!!! Honestly, I would love to do that. And I might be tempted if he lived close by, but he lives several hours away. I hope he gets what he deserves

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Ask someone to do it for you, then! Just be sure to choose someone who wouldn't betray you on a whim.

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It really depends, how important is the $300 to you? Also, how likely do you think this is to happen again to any of his future roommates? I've been in your position too and ended up following through and going through the process alone and you'd be surprised how little it costs to personally file a small claims suit. What it comes down to is the effort worth the cost + time. The biggest issue in one of these is your lost time trudging through the bureaucratic hell that is the US courts system and the forms you'll have to fill out.

I saw that others mentioned TV courts and that certainly is a valid option because those shows are essentially arbitration and the show will end up paying all your transport, etc fees (with the added bonus of public humiliation lol). Personally, I only followed through because the court and where my situation happened was all local, so it was not too much effort on my end, but I saw that you mentioned he lives far away from you now, so it really is a matter of if it's worth your time. Also, do you have it anywhere in writing that put down half of the security deposit? If you do, the issue could be resolved with just a small admin fee to the courts and the rest is just the time and effort to show up at court to sue him. PM me if you have any questions regarding the paperwork process and I'll try to help, but the process may have changed since I did this and our locations could have slightly differing rules, but I can point you in the right direction to start researching.

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Karma.

When someone fucks you over and you let it slide that someone will fuck you over again. That is karma.

That someone tries to fuck another guy over in similar fashion and gets his teeth kicked in. That is also karma.

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Lol this is what you could do, dont do nothing for a while, then contact him and say hey remember me your old room mate, i would really like to see you for the old times sake and go get some drink or food or whatever you want, then go somewhere expensive and say that you will pay for everything order something very expensive make him order too he should accept cause well you are paying right ;), then after few mins, say that you need to go to the bathroom and leave the place and let him pay all that shit up, you will get your revenge and feel better and he will learn a lesson too :D

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XD That's a good idea. Maybe I'll order an appetizer, main course, and a dessert. Eat it all, then leave

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lmao, ahh if it was me i would get my revenge 100% lol i would think of something, once i had a so called "friend" who borrowed a 50 euros from me and tried to not give them back :D, then i stole his phone and made him pay 100 euros in order to get it back ;)

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Not always a good idea, legally speaking that is.
Also, if the 'friend' one ups you, going to the bathroom before you pull the move, you're screwed even further. :D
Need to think of a foolproof plan.
I'm sure the SG community can think of a few ideas. :)

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It's easy to choose to sue, but proving any wrongdoing is the issue.
While I agree he shouldn't be allowed to get away with, especially since you say he's stolen from you before, the law is isn't as cut and dry as one person doing wrong to another and having to pay for it.
Do you have any proof that you were owed the half portion? He could claim that he paid it himself upfront and he doesn't owe you anything.
Try Google some legal advice in this regard before wasting time and money on it. As much as I'd like you to succeed, he wouldn't want you ending up further out of pocket and, in an even worse case scenario, having to pay his bills for "wrongful" suing and defaming his character.

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I'd talk to him. even if he ignores in the past people change.
talk it out first. if he ignore then court.
if he still ignores do the insanity666 way.
but careful, if he is the type that doesn't forgive easily, he might do something worst...

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karma doesnt exist. weigh up whats important to you, your financial stability or punishing someone who screwed you over... in other words what matters more.. yourself, or the way someone else who did you wrong, feels.

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Just like to point out that Karma is not for this life...often western thinking is that it is instant or in a single lifetime, unfortunately fortunately? the Karmic flow is about the next incarnation :/ So that greedy banker that ruins millions of lives will likely live to a ripe old age fairly free of care...however in the next go around, after he has died, when he returns to this world all that accumulated negative Karma will drag him down into something appropriate (people often think garden slug or some lowly simple lifeform :P) to imprint upon him the needed lesson/s and to pay back the Karmic debt (it may take several more non-human reincarnations) to come back around as a human and try better next time. It's as silly as believing in a good/bad place after you die according to your deeds but it's at least closer to the scientific fact that we all came from molecules that break down and build up over and over again. Just a small peeve when I see Karma referred to this way...and by no means a total understanding of the belief systems that use it just what I've picked up in the small amount I've read about the Saṃsāra and reincarnation.

As for OPs situation; I agree with the comment about filling out your own legal form and sending it off as a start.

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It's a plausible interpretation of karma to understand it in terms of the effects on your own psychology during a single lifetime: bad actions produce unhappiness, and good actions produce happiness. For example, forgiveness brings you peace, while holding grudges makes you suffer. The reincarnationists don't have a monopoly on how to interpret karma.

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Karma is a fickle bitch that does what it wants. Don't rely on it to solve your problems. You have two options either accept the money is lost, try to learn your lesson from this and avoid getting in such a situation again. Or you contact a local lawyer and find out if you have a chance. Maybe a letter from a lawyer is already enough to scare your ex-roommate. You don't have to go to court right away but getting some info from a lawyer certainly won't hurt.

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become karma and mug em =)

no obviously not that, idk.. probably just expensive lesson i guess =( sorry to hear that happened to you though.

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Brake his legs!!

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no. break his tongue!

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