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I think best is just to get rid of separating bundle value from real value. Or split the two in entirely different categories.

Probably inspired by This comment here I thought about the same thing, but:

1: Creating region based CVs would require region-specific Bundle Lists as well. This overloads both the site with data and devs with work.
2: I think that would make the site too "professional" while it's supposed to be a place where everyone gets around and gives away games. I don't care if a Russian based lvl10 used paid 100$ in RUB instead of 1000$. He still did very much. I would be envious, can't deny it, but he still did a good job, imo.
3: People should not do GAs just to farm CV. That's supposed to incentivate creating GAs, of course, but I don't think that should be the main reason for it.

Leave it like it is and quit worrying about your CV so much.

I swear, some people become obsessed with it.

What's wrong with the current system?

Your avatar, ExoSoul, looks like an evil dragon, an eater of souls, friendship and happnies. A true enemy in an old school RPG.

not that thread again, the current system isnt perfect, but its the best we can get...

As it has been stated countless times in the countless other "CV system is broken" threads every attempt to "nerf" russian CV would only lead to people not marking GAs as region restricted but instead gifting their region restricted gifts as ROW-gifts in an exclusivly russian group. Even getting rid of region restricted GAs wouldn't solve that problem.

How about we use the Russian store prices as the base?
Then there are only a few regions that could go slightly lower, but no huge differences.
Just rename it to SteamGiftski.ru

What Sundance85 is very much true. Region-based CV would simply not work because of it.

The current system has its flaws, but I've not see any suggestion that would not introduce even worse flaws or exploits to it

the problem with this is that

there is no way to check if somebody isnt trying to game the systme by not marking a game as from other region and alikes (and you can bet your money on it that people would try and abuse this, the same way as people have been trying to exploit glitches by hoarding multiple copies of certain games to inflate their CV-s)

I can only repeat myself and please dont bite my neck for it: if you are doing it for CV only, you are doing it wrong. No but or if, the principe is still the same.

Just an idea that popped out of my mind: could it be better if the rule change to allow gifting of region-locked games depending on the winner's region ? Mandatory ROW gifts are coming from a time when no region-locked gift was allowed at all.
I didn't took the time to think about pros and cons, it can be simply a really bad idea :)

It's really sad thing that I can't buy ROW games straight from Steam so sometimes I just buy region-locked things from Steam to give them away... I don't harm anyone =P

If someone wants to "nerf" my ability to give away the only games I can buy in a local Steam - it's like the adult man with the job bitches about why school students pay less for using bus/tube/cinema , they just get more money/spend more money.

Let's make "job-restrictions" then, when u register on Steam, you choose your job and your income... Stupid stuff,right?Left?

As long as number of entries needed for CV stays at 5, each and every modification of the current system is extremly easy to circumvent. Imo, not going to happen - afterall it was lowered to 5 from 10 or 15 short while after new site was rolled out.

Firts of all, one question should be answered: what the CV value is supposed to measure and what behaviours incentivize. Second, consideration must be taken on how much resources are needed for it to work (server and, more importantly, manpower)
Only after that searching for loopholes and ironig out details has any sense.

It's been suggested a dozen of times, and everytime my answer is the same: Regional CV would be exploitable, people would giveaway it in closed groups without marking as restricted, and nothing would change for them. But this is also means there would be less public giveaways, because noone would give away restricted gifts in public. So, this is really bad idea, it would only make things worse then it is now.

current cv system is broken, related to bundles, only if people wait till a game is over 85% to give it away and don't check RU prices and discounts to see if that title is ~95% off.

almost any game going for 75%/80% off is safe unless there's something like a coupon that can drop even more the store discount (happened twice, talos and heavy bullets).

How about removing the CV system and just give and win games like any other contest would work? So simple yet here we are once again having a conversation about something that a lot of the users of this site thinks is broken. I have been here almost three years now and I bet I have seen literally thousands of topics about the CV system since I joined. It's not working unless the intention was to cause strife among the users of this site. The "oh look another of these threads" comments should be an indication of how people feel so get rid of the cause of those comments or at least give it a try for a while and see how things go. Groups can set their own limitations. There's no need for the site to do so as well.

Some 85% games got bundled, others not, or let's hope still not, to make things fair.

I don't consider correct lots of these games getting bundled, it affects me too, but if they plan to bundle everything that is 85%(this means 95%+ on Russia), then they forgot to still bundle for example "Divinity: Dragon Commander", which cost 1.5€ and gives $40 CV, and even now ppl are trying to give this game a lot, at least I see they bundled "Deadfall Adventures Deluxe", which was more than 95% in Russia.

Anyways to make thing goods, current CV, probably is not best, but I blame allowing region locked giveaways, not really CV system. Allowing region locked giveaways was a mistake imo.

Reposting my take on it from other threads:

Well SG now automatically detects your region. Why not add a CV multiplayer based on the region users are from (for non public giveaways at least)?

With RoW regions being x1, Japan being x0.85, SEA x0.7, Ru/CIS x0.5 and so on (based on the perceived avg price difference between the regions).

Of course it's far from a perfect system, but would prevent abuse from region locked copies. On the other hand it would hurt users from locked regions that give away RoW games (bought elsewhere or acquired via trading).