What is bottlenecking you? (if the story is more complicated, let me know)
Switch the 6300 for a 8400 or even a decent quad of that era.. can give you pointers if you need advise... imho the gain is really perceivable + the oc potential is much higher on the 8400. Getting to 4GB RAM is a must btw
PS. E8400 ist roughly 15€ here. 2GB RAM is like another 10€
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Sorry to hear and rest assured that it sounded very very familiar to me. Even if that one was from a past decade. Agreed a stable Mobo is the foundation for anything.
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It's 2015 and I still have only 4 GB RAM... how am I alive xD
Also ~255 KB/s max download speed, almost all steam downloads happen at night
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heh, I get 6.8 Mbps in a country with a 70.2 Mbps AVERAGE... Even the mobile average is 32.2 Mbps apparently, and the best 4G speed I catch here is 17 Mbps...
We should be happy we live in Europe and have fair and stable Internet speed, that's one of the reason I wouldn't move anywhere in the US without Google Fiber, it's too much of a gamble.
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Romania has one of the best internet infrastructure on the planet though, competing with South Korea.
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We also have one of the most inconsistent road system, getting from the capital to anywhere in the South takes no more than 2-3 hours while the same distance to Transylvania or Moldavia is a 5-7 hour trip, thanks to the lack of highways where we need them most.
But hey, why travel 300 km when you can just connect in 2-3 ms? Those fiber pings are amazing, I have cable and 20 ms ping to MY city, so I don't know that feel usually, but that's an exception thanks to my bad ISP.
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Don't worry human cerebral cortex might be limited in memory but is still unbelievable mighty :P
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I still have an old laptop with 768 mb of RAM. It runs Ubuntu though.
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Nice rig. $900 gets you far these days, it seems. That 5400rpm tho
I got a first-gen i5 laptop with Radeon mobile, four years old and can still run most of the stuff i play although sometimes at low settings.
My bottleneck is cash to get a new rig
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Looked up the price on the Xbox One though, it's 1/3 of it... But it's not that freedom you get from having access to your 5400rpm HDD as you wish.
By the way, 7200 rpm HDDs seem to get really hot, I doubt they can do any good in a laptop. Doesn't matter, they're pretty cheap and replaceable.
Just gather the cash, I saved up for a year to get it (though my grandmas giving me $250 each on every birthday could be called cheating)
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Heh, let's not discuss consoles and their ridiculous game prices.
Mine's a 7200 and it's pretty cool. Got more heating issues from the GPU.
And yes, that is pretty much cheating. I dunno, I had around a thousand bucks saved from a year of work at the beginning of the year, but then it seemed wasteful to splurge it on a PC... and thus is gradually whittled down to nothing for daily purchases.
Plus the dollar is ridiculously strong ATM, it affects electronics prices a lot where I live. Devalue, goddamnit.
In case you haven't noticed, I really like (ab)using the spoiler tag.
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Well, I just finished high school, didn't need the money for anything yet, but college is coming soon and I didn't want to waste the money on weed... I saved them by buying a laptop. I was also afraid I won't get to buy it, because last summer I dropped my phone in the sea and I loved it so much I wanted to buy the same Moto G. There went $250 out of the $500 I had back then...
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Well you're just switching one addiction for another :P
Also, that's an expensive Moto G. Like, 50 bucks more compared to where I live.
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The Moto series isn't available here, it's probably bought from Germany, Italy, Spain and resold online here. It's actually cheaper to order them from a US retailer, the shipping fee is lower. My cousin could have saved about $150 (not exaggerating) on a Nexus 4 this way, but he'd lose any warranty and it had a big chance of arriving broken and nothing he could do about it.
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My 4gb ram aren't enough anymore apparently, so I have to upgrade, even though the only reason it's not enough is because the devs are bothering less and less to optimize their games. My HDD isn't so good either anymore.
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ACTUALLY the reason your RAM is not enough is because Google is done bothering to keep Chrome under a decent RAM limit.
Playing Dota 2 with Chrome on - 4.5 GB RAM usage
Chrome off - 2-3 GB
If you're not using Chrome, then something might be wrong. I still don't know any game without REALLY HIGH requirements that use more than 1.5 GB of RAM.
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I use Firefox, but that hogs up RAM too and I tend to turn it off while gaming because together it turns into a disaster.
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Man, I have no idea how it is to run out of RAM. I used to have a 256MB RAM machine, never ran out of memory. Upgraded it with an extra 1 GB, Age of Mythology started throwing errors about it running out of memory o.O. When I installed it on my 8GB RAM laptop, I noticed it would sometimes bug out and use about 2-3 GB of RAM (and it was growing fast, luckily I had the time to save and restart the game)
I also had some errors with my laptop not even booting in the BIOS because of insufficient RAM, but then I realized I've unplugged the RAM from the laptop :D
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Well, I just put in an extra 16gb of ddr4 ram, and also picked up another 250gb ssd, so I guess my bottleneck at the moment is actually my graphics card. Got a 780ti at the moment, saving up for a 980ti. :D I do find I'm maxing vram in some games, so the upgrade to a 900 should be a definite improvement.
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What's your CPU? o.O 780ti is still pretty high end.
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actually my weakest part of my setup currently is my chair. >> Going to get one of those racing car gaming chairs because I'm sad and I like having my gaming area set up to look high tech.
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I know that feel, I guess I'll just get myself a F1 car and sit in it with an wooden board for my laptop so I can just stay lazy and play at the same time.
Do you know any good kidney retailer I can sell mine to?
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my 4-core cpu is my bottleneck. i freaking hate it so much
AMD Phenom II X4 965 was good like 3 years ago but now i wish i would have got something better
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I have the exact same CPU, and i feel your pain. It does hold me back on some games.
Even confirmed it with MSI Afterburner, I can see when the CPU bottleneck happens in some games.
While the Phenom II x4 965 BE was fine in 2011 when I got it, now a days it's pretty much outta date.
My GPU is fine for what I use it for (XFX AMD Radeon R9 270x 4GB). Grandpa bought me this card as a thanks for helping him a lot.
That was a night/day improvement over my old ATI Radeon HD 4650 DDR2 1GB. I'm not someone that HAS to max out all settings.
Now if I had a good budget, I'd probably get an Intel i7 4790K. (I know i would need to upgrade Motherboard/CPU anyway.)
And at least 16 GB of RAM.
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For some reason the GT x50M series is GTX from the 850M, is there a reason?
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none that I know. Also, just slightly curious. Does your new laptop come with Win 10 pre-installed, or are you on windows 8.1 still?
steam thinks I installed my OS in 1969
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It came with Freedos, installed 8.1, since Asus gave me drivers for it (I got it before Windows 10, anyway)
beat you by a day
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My bottleneck are my two 1680x1050 screens: Xeon E3-1241 v3 3,5GHz, 8GB DDR3-2400, Radeon R290 with 4096MB, 250 GB SSD.
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My bottleneck is the cooling of my laptop. It really isn't a good feeling to know that it could do more if it just would cool better =/.
I7-3537u
GT 740M
8GB Ram
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Get an SSD for your OS. You know what they say, once you go SSD you never go back.
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Probably my HD7850 GPU, but I don't know for sure as I don't have a great understanding of PCs. It's going to be my next upgrade towards the end of the year.
I do know that my GPU is failing to hit the minimum system requirements of a fair few new AAA releases - the 7870 seems to be cpmmonly listed as the standard. . I can still play everything, just not at everything high/1080p/60 fps. Contrast that to my CPU, an FX8350 which is right around the recommended specs of most AAA new releases at the moment.
My 16GB of RAM is plenty.
After getting the GPU sorted later this year the plan is to get a new mobo/CPU next year. I'll be swithcing to intel.
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Mine is the cpu/motherboard/ram.
I have an e5200, ga p35 ds3l and 4gb ddr2 ram with 660 GTX
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I stopped reading at "...laptop for gaming..."
My CPU is bottlenecking me, AMD Phenom II x6 1075T. I want to purchase a new mobo and a new Intel Skylake CPU when it comes out but I'm too broke to purchase anything. I use a 280X GPU, it's pretty good.
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Well, I'm studying 170 km from home, I need a laptop. I also like gaming and having 2 rigs that cost $1000 is way out of budget. I'd prefer a home PC, but I can't carry that around with me every 2 weeks.
It's funny how six/eight core AMD CPUs are bottlenecking people while Intel makes some really cool dual core machines still above average.
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gpu and ram probably. i'm still using an underclocked 560ti qand 8gb ddr2 ram.
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I'd probably say my motherboard is the one thing that needs a lift the most. I have 8gb RAM, 2 SSD's and 3tb worth of HDD's for extra space too. My CPU is good enough, Intel i5-4690K, and I can run most games on maximum settings with an AMD R9 series GPU. I just have no more space on my motherboard to add anything else, and my fan control is messed up.
It is a very new RIG though that my Uncle made for me, so I have no need to complain.
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Technically my CPU would be the bottleneck, but seeing as I always manage to maintain my refresh rate, I wouldn't really call it one.
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Yes, if the fps is constant it is probably not the CPU to blame, since the CPU going 100% would also cause input lag and if anything happens on the background the fps drops, so if it's constant, it's probably the GPU, since that shit's 100% dedicated to your fps.
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Well I'm running 2 R9 270Xs, what i was saying is I never really "bottleneck" I was just trying to determine my weakest part =P
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In that case, a HDD is a bottleneck. Unless you have an SSD. If you have an SSD, then your storage space is the bottleneck... I think... Or the fact that you have an ATI video card and you can't run physx properly or enjoy Gerald's hair in its splendor... But honestly, my GTX 950M handles Physx the same way my Intel GMA 4500 does (90% fps drop when the glass breaks...)
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I think that's all opinion. I have an HDD, I found SSDs to not be worth the price for such little space, but having my HDD doesn't really affect my gaming in a negative way, I have better loading times than my friends with SSDs, so I see no benefit to getting one. And I don't argue over brands sorry =P
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Not arguing over brands, but Nvidia has gone full asshole mode on ATI cards with Physx and Hairworks...
And yeah, HDD only affects loading times, though a really slow one also affects the performance of some games (it happened to me on TERA, I doubled my fps by defragmenting)
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I don't have a bottle neck, 'cause I am drinking out of a glass right now. *Dodges rotten tomatoes*
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My bottleneck is my CPU. My RAM and Graphics Card are both above average.
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GPU, but that's caused by my non-UEFI motherboard. Had I known about them coming out with UEFI, I would've gone PC-less for about a year and a half to avoid the problem. Rest of the setup means cash put towards a new motherboard's a waste, was just wanting a 750Ti to tide me over for a few years until a new system became affordable.
Not looking forward to another few years on this GTX 285 xD
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all my components are balanced togheter so actually i dont have bottlenecks, but yeah i dont have an uber pc, just a good gaming one :)
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AMD Phenom II 965 with HD 6850 and 8 GB of 1333 MHz Ram on a 500 W FSP PSU and 500 GB 7200 rpm WD Blue HDD for system. Old, but it was well-balanced as I don't have any bottleneck apart from the CPU cooler which really should be replaced.
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Yeah, well balanced systems get to have the CPU as a bottleneck because of overheating :D I made a thread here about it a while ago :(
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Eh, for me it was aging. That cooler kept it around 65°C on 100% for years, but for almost 18 months now I need to have the case open.
Anyway, strangely I don't see many CPU bottlenecks nowadays. Even most laptops tend to be limited by graphics, even when made for office/home use. Most pre-built desktops suffer from this problem too. Seems like CPUs are so damn cheap and strong today that it's easier to make money on cheaper graphics chips.
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They actually aren't that cheap, but new AAA games finally use the GPU properly (look at Skyrim, shadows are all on the CPU, look at source games, they have almost 0 dependence on the GPU. But take the Witcher 2 or 3 and your CPU won't get you out of it)
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Skyrim is… lets just say I have my very… extreme opinion on the coding capabilities of Bethesda Game Studios. Or more like the utter and complete lack of it.
Since I don't play shooters any more (too old for them and the genre is way too dumb ever since the consolification), I can only tell that on the rest of the games I play (many UE3, since it seems like to be two-third of the AAA market) the balance seems fine. 2-3 cores around 60-80% use with heavy load on the GPU, as it should be. Still getting decent fps on 720p to 1080p on things that matter to me.
Which, considering I bought this rig four years ago for roughly 950 USD, is still something.
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Yeah, UE3 games (at least the AAA ones, indies are horribly optimized in my experience) are usually properly balanced.
There's also GTA IV, the game that will probably never run properly on a PC.
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GPU !
Bought it 3 or 4 years ago and still runs high-end games but i need to upgrade it . ! $ ! :3
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So, I just got a new laptop for gaming, because the old one was limited by the CPU in ALL games and I really need a PC with a good CPU, since I'm going to a college for software engineering, I guess I'll need a good PC for the years to come.
My old laptop never got 100% usage on the GPU, since the CPU always got to 100% and overheated and got even more limited, so everything was a lag-fest.
So my new rig comes like this:
CPU: Intel Core i7 4720HQ (pretty much the best mobile CPU if you don't have unlimited money) From a Pentium B960
GPU: GTX 950M (I could have gone for a 960M, but that came with a dual core CPU, higher price or a 256GB SSD) From a GT 540M
1 TB 5400 rpm HDD (from a 500GB, not a big difference)
8GB RAM (it comes on 1600MHz now)
1080p screen :D (which is worse than 768p because Windows sucks at scaling, but it's ok)
It was about $900 and it's about the specs of the Xbox One, so it can handle all games on decent detail, I think it was worth it. So far, it's bottlenecked my the HDD (the loading times are the same as the old one and it sometimes freezes because of it, but I can replace it if I will). Also, Planetside 2 can't be handled by my GPU when settings > medium, funny how the CPU never goes above 40% on 3/8 cores all the time.
If you want a GA from the <0.25€ games, let me know which one :D I'm cheap, I got the new laptop, sorry.5s2YNPS: @people bottlenecked by RAM, how? It's cheap and it's an upgrade you can do on any laptop or PC.
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