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UPDATE: This thread is no longer relevant! This thread will stay for a while, once it sink to the bottom of the forum flood, I will close it for good. Thanks everyone who contributed to this list! And thanks cg for finally decided to allow free games GAs.
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Games that were once free or exploited are removed from the giveaway list of the game. But since the list is now an auto-suggest instead of a dropdown, it makes me waste time scrolling the list of games to find that the game is not in the list...
A list of un-creatable games would be helpful.
UPDATE: Another better suggestion in the comments, is to show ALL games in the list, but grey-out the un-creatable ones and add a tooltip that explain why it cannot be created.
Thanks Rinarin for providing the official list!
And SleepyCat for the follow-up on the updated list!
(Last updated: July 25, 2017)
(Last updated: July 25, 2017)
Current list of banned games :-
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Also getting http://www.steamgifts.com/bundles/ back would be nice.
did you mean this: http://www.steamgifts.com/bundle-games
Wow, just took a look at that. 2,637 results? That's the majority of games on Steam.
they're not solely games tho. there are packs and dlc and such.
4769 total games on Steam, but don't forget the bundle list includes DLC and double entries due to packs and stuff
Right. Thanks. Looks like with DLC there's about 9000 non-free games on Steam. Still, there are a lot more games than DLC in bundles, so I still imagine that the bundled game percentage can be over 50%.
Happy cake day!
today: 5,307 results :O
Another year later (today) it has 8,003 results.
Sorta, the old one was mostly text, all on one page and could be ctrl+f'd so you could easily go through a list of games. With that you'd have to just type each one and search because the page function for a list that long is worthless.
I agree. Would've been a nice feature.
The auto-suggest is pretty smart. If you type Crash Time and it's not the top result, it's not there.
Also if the game was free there's a good chance it's not there.
Instead of banning those games can't you just make them give 0CV instead? There had been so many fake giveaways with My Lands DLCs, Deadbreed DLCs, Marine Sharpshooter, etc with people willfully or ignorantly listing them as other things.
Because every time a game went free, there'd just be 4 pages flooded with the same game.
It's still better than people creating fake giveaways isn't it? I have 140+ names of these people on my blacklist now. They all have positive contributor levels now because of those fake giveaways.
Those "4 pages" would be invisible to many people anyway, since those are free games that almost everyone would have. Those who don't have the free games yet would be made aware of the free giveaway by that sudden flood, instead of wasting their points on entering for free games.
On top of that, all those games were only free for short periods. Permanently banning them means people who miss those giveaways have no chance of winning the game ever again in the future. Some giveaways -- e.g. Warlock Master of the Arcane, Receiver -- only gave links that were valid for a short period, such that hoarders wouldn't be able to give them away now. There's no reason to keep those games banned.
On the old site at least, floods like that would impact site performance, so better to disable the game and suspend those who don't care for the rules.
Also, when you have hundreds of giveaways like that, all for the same game all ending together, support gets overwhelmed with re-roll requests and reports for people winning multiple copies.
Have not all the Receiver from humble expired by now?
The free games that are like this, should be re-allowed to be given away.
An expiration for games given away free would be good - there's quite a few on the list that are on my wishlist. It would probably have to be a long-ish wait time, otherwise you'd just simply postphone the floods. Opening bid starts at one year... how many people would hold onto a key for one year and a day and remember the exact moment it would be eligible for giving away again? They can still be 0CV gained, further reducing the number of people posting it. just a thought.
There is a filter for that though.
speaking of wich and sorry to bother u for this i havent gotten a reply on wether the people who gave the free tinyubuild games[such as not my robots ,boid etc] away to gain cv will have a free pass for this as i can delete some of my reports than :)
I agree. I have 2 games I bought on a bundle. Already have them and didn't know they were free once. Now I can't create a giveaway. 1 of those games was on my wishlist and was given to me. Probably there is someone out there wanting the game and never got it for free. Maybe that person doesn't know it was free once and is waiting for a discount to buy, just like I was before I got it as a gift. If we could create a 0CV giveaway we wouldn't have so many unused keys.
Same happens to me.
Not 0CV , better with negative value: -1CV / -5CV
But bobofatt! You forget that many people aren't the sharpest spoons in the knife drawer! Unfortunately, people still think it's fine to try and give away those games, so perhaps an explicit, straightforward and comprehensive list could be helpful.
I'd say it should be pretty low on the priority list, and not only because it's a labor-intensive task. Perhaps something to consider for the near (or distant) future, though.
What is a pretty bad solution for the problem.
Instead, ALL of the games should appear in the list, and make the non-wanted ones unselectable, if someone click those, some red mouseover text should appear above them, explaining that the game is not allowed to give away (and why or link to guidelines).
This is definitely the best solution in my opinion
That's pretty much exactly what I suggested when SGv2 was still in development.
If you don't mind me asking, what's inhibiting its implementation? Low priority, disagreement among staff?
I hope that change does occur. It may improve the system significantly. A red disclaimer in parentheses could also appear within the box stating that this game could not be given away.
The admin simply hasn't opted to implement it.
Darn. Well, I hope it is implemented soon.
+1 for this! This suggestion is better than my proposed one. I'll add in to the OP!
My thoughts exactly. (maybe even having said games be greyed-out, but still in the list).
Yes, it would be nice to have a list somewhere.
It would even be more nice to be able to give those games out for 0 CV.
If you are worried about spam it might be introduced first only for private giveaways and group giveaways. But I really would like to give my group some games from that list to those who don't have it yet (and have it random rolled by SG).
Here is a small list anyway of banned games:
Aerena - Clash of Champions
Dawn of Fantasy: Kingdom Wars
Ionball 2: Ionstorm
Memories of a Vagebond
Nosferatu: The Wrath of Malachi
Realms of the Haunting
Shadows on the Vatican - Act 1: Greed
Tropico 3 Gold
Weird Worlds: Return to Infinite Space
I'm fairly certain I gave away "A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2" one or two weeks ago... or do you mean the separate games?
It's indeed not blocked.
I agree, we should still be able to give these games away.. just not get CV from them. Maybe have a popup when creating the giveaway that says 'You will not receive CV for this giveaway. Please refer to http://xxxxxx for any questions' or something.
Also, The Cursed Crusade was banned last time I tried to give it away (few weeks ago). I'm not sure if it was in a bundle but it was on sale on Amazon at one point for $1.
Off-course the official list is like 10x longer then this.
But the only ones who can give us that one is the SG staff.
3 more from my Excel sheet:
Marine Sharpshooter II: Jungle Warfare
Cognition: An Erica Reed Thriller
Added. Also added some of my list that I found while creating some GAs. Thanks
RADical ROACH Deluxe Edition
Super Killer Hornet: Resurrection
I guess you'll soon be able to add Saira to the "forbidden" list.
The game went F2P, but is still in the giveaway list. I just created a support ticket to have it removed.
Edit: Rinarin informed me, that the game is now removed.
Here are some more:Avencast: Rise of the MageLitil DivilPidPixel Puzzles: JapanTeleglitch: Die More EditionWarlock - Master of the ArcaneWoodle Tree AdventuresZero Gear
You can add Knights and Merchants to your list ^^
dumb question, but how, why and when was Knights and Merchants free?
why: hell if i know
when: over the last couple of years (possibly even still, but it's down so idk)
That sucks - probably the only game on the list I'd like to try, never see giveaway for it (obviously)
Uriel's Chasm - and that's a good thing.
The thing is though.
I really would like to give these out to members of my private group.
I don't care about not getting any CV for it, but it would be nice to do it through SG so it's a fair roll and people can see it in your (and the winners) history.
I agree, and in many cases these games' free-giveaway period was so long time ago, people giving away these games are actually legit-bought gifts. But that's not what this thread is about, we should make another thread in the suggestion board "allow creating zero CV giveaway for SG-removed games after an X period of time". Maybe 3 months. The free key flood should already subside by then.
More games to add to the list...
You can still make giveaways for Collapse.
yeah, seems like i made a mistake
Thanks for checking xD
I don't know, I think you can make a giveaway for this
why The Ship? I want that game :(
The Cursed Crusade
Cities Skylines is a new game. Listed.
But no love for "Cities Skylines Deluxe Edition".
these are the games that were removed from giveaway listing because they were given away for free in excessive amount in the past...
I dunno why Skyline Deluxe isn't listed. may be go to Steam page of SG & ask mods to add it
east India Company + 3DLC cannot also be created
What's the old URL to the free/exploited and removed list? Maybe it's cached in Google or Archive.org.
You mean the old faq?
Keys Considered Exploited:
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
Homefront Shotgun DLC
Supreme Commander / Forged Alliance
Puppy Games Keys
Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45 (Region Locked)
Dark Messiah of Might & Magic Multiplayer
Eets (in certain amounts)
World of Goo
Risen 2: Dark Waters - Air Temple DLC
No I'm thinking of a page that was like the bundled game list.
Just curious, but how the hell was a call of duty game exploited? Those games rarely have big discounts and never been free as far as I can remember....
some store got their keys leaked somehow iirc.
Defense Grid 1 (the bundle with the dlc's is still available)
A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2 works for me :)
no it doesn't.
Check again and see if you can spot the difference.
A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2 Dual Pack? and A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2 ?
And "A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2" is blocked (the dual pack however not).
oh ok thank you for imforming me
I'm not sure what you mean. You can make a GA for each of then separately or together as the dual pack. It shouldn't matter much anymore, only the dual pack exists now on Steam.
It matters because I got a key for "A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2" and I can't give it.
It's in the list. It seems from your prior comment that you don't understand what "dual pack" is. "Dual" is "both together". Look on Steam, it's 1 and 2 together. http://store.steampowered.com/sub/14311/ You cant buy them seperately anymore. There is no problem with SGs listing options, what you have is "A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2 Dual Pack"https://steamdb.info/sub/14311/apps/
Steam Sub 14311, or the old Steam Sub 14313 is irrelevant, They both give the user the exact same 2 games in their library. Pick ""A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2 Dual Pack" in the GA list.
OOoooowww. Now I get it.
Ok thank you for the info.
I was under the impression that the dual pack gave out an extra set of gift copies for a friend.
Well that's good news.
It would be really helpful if a mod could give the entire list.
Or just have a page for it even showing all blocked giveaways.
A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2 were given for free?
I dont think that
Forsaken Uprising and A Valley Without Wind 1 and 2 i think that can be gifted.
I know that Forsaken Uprising was given free but with limited keys XD
So, here is a list of games that have been disabled. Some might be disabled due to having more than one option on the list. I did not cross-check that. Also, I might have missed a few.
If something is not on the list above but you can't find it on the giveaway list, it's possible that it just hasn't been added to the giveaway list, not that it got disabled on purpose.
Also, some of the games you have listed as removed from the list are simply gone from the store (or are under a different title now). They aren't necessarily disabled manually in the site. Plus, some are in the list.
Screencheat is still available for giveaways. Everything else seems right.
You are right, edited. It was disabled when I started making the list though :P
It was probably due to the promo that humble was doing, but I may be wrong.
Yup, it was.
When was Metro 2033 Redux given away? Is it just because of people using it to submit regular Metro 2033 keys?
It's due to it being used instead of the normal Metro 2033, quite often. That one might return to the list soonish, though.
Is it worth filing support tickets about adding the items that no longer exist in the Steam store (cannot be purchased) or would they be impossible to reinstate on SG due to no price/points value connection?
E.g. State of Decay (already mentioned here) as its Steam page does not provide a 'Buy' option now.
Other examples include outdated and replaced franchise packs like the "Might and Magic" one, where current bundle adds several items on top of the 2014 edition - although, some "historical" packs appear to still be listed here on SG (like the old Hitman Collection)…
Yes, you should create a ticket if you want some added. Some might be delayed (like State of Decay, since instead of removing the old store page they removed just the price, so the site keeps updating it as having 0 price, unless it's fixed by the administrator) but others just get automatically disabled by the site when their store page disappears and all we need to do is enable them since all the past data is there.
Thank you very much for the prompt response and clarifications!
Created a couple of tickets. Hope they are not too much of a trouble. ^^'
Did I miss Cognition being free?