lol, not shit... right, good one :D

But something that should be in the game for the sake of immersion. Letting those things get away and giving money to these people just show that gamers accept everything a company throw at us.

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actually i would say that yes they DO have to include extras.. otherwise, what possible incentive is there to preorder? the publisher wants something from US (ie demonstration of interest through putting our cash down early), so in return they need to provide a decent enticement... and no, the 'game being potentially good' isnt a good enough enticement since the game can still be bought after its released :D

*has

So what? The customer takes risk pre-ordering this game, cause nobody played it before and nobody can make sure it'll be worth the money. The company has to convince us to buy the game earlier. If it doesn't happen, it means they take us for granted.
I think we have the right to complain and deserve better.

Wait I thought that selling a rifle that shoots sharks for 3$ is a great way of doing thing.s

Their earlier games didn't have that much DLC. They only started pumping it at the end in an attempt to save the company.

I have to agree with the DLC... especially w/ the way they did multiplayer DLC for Space Marine... if you didn't have the DLC for the next match, you were kicked out of match making... that's absolutely horrid!

I disagree. The problem is that those things should never be in the game at all. They're pointless.

WON'T YOU PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?

Agree. And publisher != developer, which stayed the same the hole time, and the same as for Metro2033

I DARE TO DISAGREE

bioshock infinite had awesome preorder bonuses, xcom and bioshock, plus you can probably sell the tf2 genuine hats for some money and get even MORE GAMES.

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Yeah, that's why Dead Island still has game breaking bugs.

Haha! Nice one.

Might I suggest you move someplace cheaper then? Like US or Russia?

um... ever since digital distribution took off? theres no shortage of games anymore like there was in the past when we bought from stores, and as such there is a guarantee that you WILL be able to get your game whenever you buy it (ie ON the launch day, or a day after, or whenever), so there is literally no reason to preorder EXCEPT for exclusive content that you wont get if you buy after it releases. as i said before, publishers want something from US (an expression of interest in their game through preorders), so the only reason we would have for giving them that, is if they give us something back in return - especially if the quality of the game ITSELF is in question (which it always is, until we actually get to play it)

This is what it is for me, lol... I can wait to play a game and get a better price (I'm cheap). But if I can spend a little more (or still get a good deal by shopping around) and pre-order and get some nice bonuses that will save money in the long run, I'm up for that.

Like I said, I hope it will be shite, and the pre-ordering sheep will stop.

Well, you are a spoiled brat.

If it is 50 Euros then it should've been 60$. Yet it's 50$. Fuck Deep Silver.

GSC made the first and every other STALKER game and THQ published the first one. Deep Silver had NOTHING to do with the first STALKER, they were only EU publishers for Clear Sky and Call of Pripyat.

Here

50E=250 RON.
My grandmother has a salary of 500 RON.

Fuck Deep Silver.

Uh?

Here in Spain (not to mention that life is much more expensive than in Poland, first of all) salary starts at 645,30€/month. And the average wage is 1500€/month. Not to mention that 25% of the population is unemployed.

1700€??? Neither in France, nor in Spain.

Although I can feel that pain it's not really through and there are worse example,also it isn't relevant.

West Europe? What is west Europe for you? In Germany many people earn less than that,while it is true that others earn way more. Statistics get cleaned about by putting minijobbers out of the statistics,who even earn with 3 jobs not more than 1000/month. Salary alone doesn't mean that much either,because living costs are higher,too. While germany in general is not bad we still have people who can't make their living with their jobs and need help from the social services. So,no,not everyone is rich here are rich enough to live a life without any worries.

I know people here on SG who have to work half a month to buy a 50€ game. But with that money they have to make a living,too. And yes,they have to pay US prices.

Finally it doesn't matter how strong the economy is in your country,those games are international,it's not some small indie game developed by a small studio in some basement in kiev. Deep silver is a german publisher,they have to make a living in germany,not in ukraine or poland or china or anywhere else. The devs want to get paid,too,there is marketing to be done,fees to be paid. With the current rapid price drops a game devalues itself very quick,if they start with 20€ they will never get their money back they had to pay.

Would you produce something in your country that did cost you X€,then go to another country and sell it for X/2€ just because the economy is poor there?

If you can't afford the pre order price,then you gotta wait,thats how it is.

Portugal is the most western country in Europe. Salary starts at 485€. Average salry is around 750€. Check your facts before talking, it's not like we're rich.

Correction: Deep Silver never fixes bugs. EVER.

THE GAME HAS NOT EVEN SHIPPED YOU STUPID, HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS FULL OF BUGS

Awesome

more of those please!

I know I'll pirate it. No need to support such a bullshite company like Deep Silver.