You would have a easier time getting a QA job in Israel.
As for improving your English just put yourself in lots of situations where you need to use it. Practice is the only way to improve it.
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Well I know we have our own, only place that we could find people who speak even bad Finnish is Estonia. But I was mainly talking about NA based on knowledge of what I read from USA and watching Outsourced, so that could not be related to Canada either. And also kind of adding to your joke since the wanted job is probably something else. :P
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So many support people that seemingly get abuse, even death threads (then again some companies that try to sell you stuff, just bother you on purpose near dinner time..), a time limit on how much time you could spend per customer etc etc, don't think it's a fun job. :x
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I'm pretty sure it's Quality Assurance. I can see how they would be a program for QA, so you're familiar with standards, processes, policies, writs, implementation, audits, checkpoints, etc.
There's actually a distinction between Quality Assurance and Quality Control. QA is focused on the process - doing the right thing the right way - while QC is focused on the product - making sure the end result is as expected. But the two are often used interchangeably by people outside the industry.
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ah ok, so its more management and protocolls and stuff... cause anything else would require knowlegde of a specific field, e.g. Chemistry, ... or is this still required?
im not a native speaker myself and weirdly enough german wikipedia says QA and QC is the same xD
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They're certainly often used interchangeably, but generally QA is more focused on the process and preventing errors, while QC is more focused on the output and the product itself - that any errors in the final product are identified.
QA is focused on standards and on how you do something. As an example, where one may employ chemists with their knowledge of Chemistry to design new medicine, QA would be involved in making sure that the development and testing process conforms to existing standards and that everything is done correctly.
As another example, software engineers write the code, while QA makes sure that the code and development process conforms to standards such as ISO 9000 to ensure the quality of the code. QC would then test the code to identify any bugs so that they might be corrected, and QA might adjust their processes such that these bugs and errors would be prevented in the future.
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oh i didn't go to university. decided against it and instead took on an apprenticeship as a chemical lab worker.
in Germany we have a system for apprenticeships. those take 2,5-3,5 years (mine was 3,5 years) depending on the field and have official exams and diploma at the end with which i can apply to companies (without you don't really have much chances of getting a good job or a job at all). Most ppl who don't go to uni make an apprenticeship.
it counts less than a bachelor and has a more practical focus. but there are up building training courses (~2years) i could take to get myself on par of a bachelor.
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I have heard that some people are able to get jobs in a big company in their current country, then (after a few years of doing good work) transfer to the company's office in a different country. However, without experience or any kind of track record, it's unlikely a company would hire & pay for relocation expenses.
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Find a job doing QA in israel with a company that has offices in Canada. Work your way up to a senior position while working to improve your english, then transfer to the office in Canada.
Seriously, with no money, no experience, and no english, there's no way to do it. unless you're a refugee, which you aren't
If you have sufficient language skills and $250,000, you can get an investor Visa for the Northwest Territories (excluding Yellowknife). cost varies by location. If you want to be in Toronto, you need a net worth of $1.5 million
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Hi. Good luck. Canada has always been a country that was welcoming to immigrants. It is a young country and we are all at best a few generations from immigration. The large majority of these locate near Toronto (3M+) or the Greater Toronto area (GTA) (6M+). So much so that the large majority of the 3M+ inhabitants, were born somewhere else. There has been almost 100% turnover in less than a generation. This has been good for business and culture but socially and politically, there is beginning to be some backlash against the large number of immigrants, particularly those that are not willing to accept existing 'Canadian' culture. We have people that have lived here for decades who do not recognize any Canadian culture and do not speak anything from either of the official languages. Some neighbouhoods have shop and street signs in foreign languages only.
Canada is a large country and dialects are diverse. Since I assume that you intend to locate in the Toronto area, dialect is very close to American newscasters. If you can't get Canadian news, watch American news in the north east (Buffalo, New York, Chicago). Interestingly, because there are so many immigrants, linguists report that Toronto is becoming a dialect unique to the world. We apologize as an act of politeness for things that we are not responsible for. Canada also uses a mixture of British and American spelling. We use 'neighbourhood' versus 'neighborhood' for example. This is often an easy giveaway. We pronounce Toronto as 'Tronno'. We end many sentences, particularly questions, with 'eh?'. How's it going, eh?. It's hot, eh? We share this with some other commonwealth countries. The Mike Myers movie Wayne's World is a actually a parody of a Toronto suburb (Scarborough) in the seventies. I grew up a few block from him.
We have many immigrants from, and a good connection to Israel. Canada has a growing technology economy and applicants with skills that are scarce score better consideration.
Hope this helps.
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A strong consideration for local job applicants is someone who can speak passable conversational English. Many immigrants with broken or no English, struggle to find employment at their skill level because of this.
I think that you are on the right track just by asking about local culture. Good luck.
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I would also recommend getting experience in Israel now while working on your English. That experience will help you land a job once your English has improved.
As far as improving your English, try to practice reading, listening, and speaking. You can read books, listen to English shows / movies, and try to speak English with others (most of the people I met in Israel spoke English, so you should be able to find people to practice with).
As far as learning more about Canadian culture, study it. Read about Canadian culture and politics, watch some Canadian shows, make some Canadian pen-pals online. But I wouldn't worry too much about the culture - I feel that if you get your English to a conversational level, you can easily adapt to the culture once you get there, and it's not like there's a set thing of what it means to be Canadian - wherever you decide to go is likely to have its own culture.
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That's disheartening to hear. Culture is specific to region, even to a workplace, and I'm not sure how exactly one would demonstrate culture. Certainly people want to hire people that are like themselves, but I think a lot of that comes down to personality and language. If you can comfortably converse with someone, that will alleviate most of their cultural concerns.
In the end, job searches are a bit of a crap shoot. I've had interviews where I just instantly clicked with the employer and we got along great and they were really impressed with my knowledge, and others for a similar position where it just felt hostile throughout and they seemed resolutely unimpressed in my knowledge and skill set. For the last job I had, I later learned that I was one of 300+ applicants, which just seems crazy to consider.
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It's complicated and it may be too difficult for strangers to discuss in a forum. Culture has many levels. On the least intrusive level it may only represent what a group calls their winter celebrations, for example. On it's most complex it affects the laws of a country that are followed and the rights and responsibilities of citizens. Some groups want religious laws to over ride the country's charter of Rights and Freedoms for example. Some cultural expectations affect the basic ways that business is conducted. At times it can become a direct and unreconcilable clash. Whose culture is respected?
These hardline expectations often come from a small minority of newcomers but it has the unfortunate result of getting disproportionate attention and reaction. The above reference to Roxham Road relates to border crossings that are happening between formal entry points in attempts to take advantage of unanticipated aspects of safe country of origin rules. The reference to free healthcare and hotels represents a growing jaded view of citizens that anyone who manages to drag themselves across the border circumventing existing processes gets rewarded with luxury at the hardworking taxpayers' expense. These views are particularly directed at the current Prime Minister Justin Trudeau because of the stance he took regarding Syrian refugees when other countries were closing borders. The stereotype is a 'flood of illegal refugees bankrupting the country'. Opponents have even used the term 'traitor' in reference to their opinion of Trudeau's stance.
Politics and culture are more complicated than who says 'Merry Christmas'. Sadly, world politics have taken a right wing turn and a 'me-first' or birthism attitude. Canada has not been immune. The irony in my view is that Canada is such a young country of recent newcomers. There is a lot of hypocrisy. To make matters more interesting, part of my cultural background is First Nations (aboriginal). My ancestors have been here for 10,000 years. After losing most all of the existing cultural status, we now watch the new comers argue between themselves over who has more rights to traditions. The ironies are thick.
Despite all of this, in my view Canada is still among the most welcoming countries in the world. The list of Order of Canada recipients is filled with immigrants who improved life for others while trying to improve their own.
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Thanks for that, and your other example, both helped expand my understanding.
And I share your frustration with the anti-immigrant attitude that seems to have swept through the world, particularly in the US. The US is a nation of immigrants - almost everyone can trace their heritage back to another country. The current president himself is the grandchild of immigrants. My own mother falls into this attitude, and it's perplexing because we ourselves are immigrants, having come to the US many years ago. Immigrants have literally built the US and made it what it is today, so the fear that the country will be hurt by immigrants seems ludicrous.
It's like someone is making a bacon and garlic pizza, and you bring over a few more bacon slices to crumble over the pizza, and they're like, "Woah, you can't just add that bacon to this bacon pizza, it'll destroy the pizza!" And you're looking at them, dumbfounded, saying, "No it won't. Adding more bacon to a bacon pizza will make it better!" They counter with, "Oh, but that's applewood smoked bacon, and this pizza is mostly hickory smoked bacon. Adding it will ruin the pizza." You respond, "There's no need to fear. First, it's just a few slices spread out over a huge pizza. Second, even if it's applewood smoked, it's still bacon. Adding more bacon to a bacon pizza still just makes the pizza better. And if it's a different type of bacon, that just adds depth and complexity to the pizza to make it better than a pizza made out of a single type of bacon." And the hope is that the person making it finally sees reason and say, "You're right, I don't know what I was so afraid of. Bring that bacon over here and let's get it on this pizza. In fact, let's get some brown sugar sprinkled bacon too and work that in. This will be the best bacon pizza ever!"
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You are crazy, applewood smoked bacon is the best! Particularly thick-cut, applewood smoked bacon. :)
And yeah, they really are, and unreasonably so. During the Vietnam war, the US granted asylum to 100,000 Vietnamese citizens. Comparatively, the invasion of Iraq was in 2003, and between 2003 and 2008 the US accepted less than 800 Iraqi refugees. My family themselves came to the US as refugees many years ago, and we were in deportation proceedings for 5 years until we won the Green Card Lottery. My SO's family came as refugees many years ago. My neighbors across the street are immigrants. Our beloved local Indian restaurant that makes delicious Chicken Tikka Masala and Malay Kofta - everyone there is an immigrant or the descendant of immigrants. We're a nation of immigrants, yet we seem to be forgetting that.
Refugee admittance to the US has dropped significantly since 2016, going from 85K in 2016 to 54K in 2017, and only 22K in 2018. For a country of 327 million, that's just 0.00007% of the population for 2018. I get the concern about refugees, but these are people fleeing their homes and countries, leaving everything behind and risking their lives. At the same time, we have about 1,500-2,000 military troops in Syria, 5,500 in Iraq, and 6,000 on the Mexico border. That just seems crazy to me.
But I digress. Climate change is on track to kill us all and wipe out the human race, and we were talking about pizza. We better enjoy our bacon and garlic pizzas while we still can! :)
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In some countries, culture prohibits certain people from shaking hands, yet for many positions in Canadian business, a handshake is the cultural foundation for conducting business. If your culture prohibited shaking hands and a prospective employer extended their hand prior to beginning an interview, would you shake their hand?
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Why not USA? Seems to have better opportunities than canada.
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Currently, USA won't even take back the immigrants that are escaping into Canada. The Canadian immigration website even crashed due to the heavy traffic from American users.
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I have a friend who went through a similar process - and I wouldn't recommend it.
He already had a job as QA TL for a couple of years, and BA in Economics.
First of all, Canada has a point system which requires you to have a certain amount of points before you are approved.
You get points for being young, education (B.A. M.A.), for working in a required field, etc.
You can read more about it (in Hebrew even) here: https://www.themarker.com/wallstreet/1.2547494
You will also be required to prove you have a lump sum of around $30,000 that will last you for a first few months in Canada.
You will need to adjust to the Canadian weather (much colder than in Israel) and demographics (much less urban than Israel, especially if you llive in Tel Aviv).
In addition, Canada offers much less employment in the IT field than Israel. My friend I mentioned had experience and was working as a QA TL, but when he moved to Canada, it took him a while to even find a basic QA position, then he was laid off, and again took him a few months to find a new job (something that in Israel takes less than a month). And he eventually gave up on IT altogether and became a realtor.
If you have any additional questions - feel free to contact me on Steam.
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How did you learn QA without proper education on the field?
Do you know how to program and develop automated tests? In which languages?
Otherwise you're confusing the QA (Quality Assurance Engineer/Analyst) and Tester roles.
I doubt that any country has the need to import manual Testers.
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Hi, I learnt a QA course here:
https://www.johnbryce.co.il/catalog/hi-tech-courses/qa-foundation-istqb-new
Its 475 academic hours
I dont know how to develop automated tests but I know to develop manual tests
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I am from Israel, I like to eat Falafel and play computer games like cs:go, fortnite, assasin creed, need for speed
I learnt QA and I have B.A and M.A at Geography
How can I improve my English and be more "Canadic"?
How can I find a job as a QA in Canada without experience?
Thanks
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