Marsche1997, your link is very long, reflink?
This one works too

https://www.epicgames.com/store/de/product/superhot/home

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Yes, it's a reflink and not even his...

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Tought we weren't supposed to post reflinks. Why is this still here?

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Cause support team is ready for Xmas?

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I've been wondering for some time tho - wasn't it Steam's policy that if something is free on other platforms it's also gotta be free on Steam - or does that not apply when it comes to Epic Game Store?

It was probably already answered somewhere, but I didn't see it, so I'm hoping for an answer here.

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Epic has been giving away games on a weekly basis in the past 12 months if you haven't heard, and none of them have been free on Steam. Guess that answers your question

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Yup, I know, but I just keep forgetting to ask the question. It was just that there was a clause or something in the past for steam games that publishers/developers had to offer same prices/conditions on steam as well, if they already did on other platforms. Or something like that.

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Most likely it was too expensive for steam to make all games free.

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I am spamming the fucc out of this, but thanks for your reply. Could also be that.

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Epic games is another company and another client for games. They are not connected to Steam. You play your games through Epic's client. So no, they are not free on Steam.

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That could make sense - but as I mentioned above - It was just that there was a clause or something in the past for steam games that publishers/developers had to offer same prices/conditions on steam as well, if they already did on other platforms. Or something like that.
Could be it doesn't apply here or that I misremember it.

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But that's not piricing. It is a giveaway for a limited time. Do you mean Ubisoft had to giveaway their games on Steam while doing for Uplay? I don't think that will be an acceptable condition. :/

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Garandro found the answer I was thinking of. Yeah, it's just my memory is ehh and I was interested :D

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I think that only applies to giveaways where they give steam keys :)

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Could be, you are probably correct. I just can't find it on google and cant remember correctly.

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You probably mean this:

Steam keys shouldn't be given away for free if you aren't also offering the same deal (i.e., give the game away for free) to Steam customers. If you want to run a giveaway on Steam, please reach out to us at Steampublish@valvesoftware.com

It's from this:
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/keys
The point is under "Steam Key Rules and Guidelines"

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Yeah, that was the thing! Nice find! Now it all makes sense.

View attached image.
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While you've probably got it figured now, just in case there's any lingering confusion:

Valve did officially note that their concern was with people not purchasing Steam games through the client, and the fact that such practices were increasing [strangely, their comments on the matter didn't make note of the fact that they themselves had encouraged such behaviors by way of their changes in gifting and regional policies, and various off-putting issues related to major sales].

They never brought up fair competition with other clients- and, in fact, their encouraging such a sentiment may actually be illegal; While Steam has the right to manage their own subscription service (of which any storefront selling Steam key licenses are part of) it's generally problematic to directly target or inhibit other businesses.

Naturally, contractual workarounds do exist, such as Epic has done with their 1-year exclusivity agreements or as console companies have done with arranging specific games as console-exclusive, but Steam would still have to arrange such terms beforehand (rather than simply making a matter-of-fact announcement without first soliciting agreement from, or giving proper notice to all involved parties) and, even then, it could* be possible that they'd still be considered as engaging in unfair business practices if their policies are too restrictive on competitors. Though, being that this is US-based, I'm sure the right bribes would solve everything for them.

* (I'm a bit rusty on my business law, but if you'd like to confirm the actual circumstances of such matters for yourself, just look into United States antitrust laws).

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Yeah, I already got the gist of it, but thanks for the in-depth explanation of sorts! I think I got my question answered and it might be useful for others as well to see.

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That's for something such as bluehole(dev of pubg) making their own website and they went f2p with pubg, they'd have to go f2p on steam too, couldn't keep the game at 29.99 on steam. Or if league of legends came to steam for instance, it's a f2p game, they wouldn't be allowed to ask people for a sub to own the game. It's to prevent devs from scamming you. At least that's how I interpret that. Not that I know if that's an actual rule they have in place, but it would make sense.

Doesn't mean just because anyone is doing a giveaway, steam has to match that giveaway on their platform. It would literally be impossible to keep up with everyone, plus what rights does steam have to give another devs keys on steam for free, for instance when Notre Dame burned Uplay gave away Assassin's Creed Unity on their platform. No dev should be forced into losing potential sales of having to give keys in both places. The fact that it was a gift in the first place for a decently good game should be appreciated first of all.

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Thanks for your in-depth reply, that could be the case, as mentioned twice above, afaik - It was just that there was a clause or something in the past for steam games that publishers/developers had to offer same prices/conditions on steam as well, if they already did on other platforms. Or something like that. But I guess it doesn't apply here.

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Most likely because this is a temporary thing and these games are not going permanently free.

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There are countless games on Steam which are free elsewhere, be they on itch.io, flash game sites, RPGMaker sites, or mobile systems. Likewise, there are several F2P games that became single-payment once they hit Steam. Similarly, Steam has never once seen matching of Origin/GOG/Uplay freebies (at least, in a matter which indicates an association between the promotions), that I'm aware of.

I haven't heard of any restrictions presented by Valve towards how games are offered on other platforms, but do please inform me if you come across any official references on the matter. As far as the current topic, I'm pretty sure the OP was referring to Steam's policy of developers needing to match non-Client-Storefront offers within the Client storefront.

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Well as I said I'm not aware of that either, but it would make sense if a dev has it free on a steam competitors website, whatever they consider a competitor, that it would be free on steam too, compared to how originally he was asking if epic games is giving a game for free temporarily, then steam would do so as well to match it, which seems impossible to keep up with.

I've seen mobile apps give games like Hitman Go for instace for free for a while, but it maintained a price on steam since it was a giveaway not a permanent free to play game from that point on. Not sure if something like that would carry over the platform too, since sometimes platform features differ and mobile games can make money through adds, pc's can't on steam.

Rather what I was saying is for instance if path of exile is a free to play game on their website, they wont charge money for it on steam. But I don't know if that actually holds true everywhere. I haven't seen any contradicting examples of f2p games outside steam costing money on steam yet with the same version number, updates, etc. I'm sure there's probably some indie devs out there though, and there have to be some older version games that have now been updated and now cost money on steam when you can still find their old version for free.

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It's not your reflink (I think you copied link from łowcygier, as they add their reflinks to deal posts on their page). So I will not take any action this time.

But in the future make sure to post link to direct deal, do not copy it from game-deals aggregating sites. As chance is high you will copy it with their ref link, and it will lead to trouble.

I will close this thread. When you edit OP post to remove łowcygier ref link - you can submit ticket in other category, so we will open the thread again.

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Closed 4 years ago by MSKOTOR.