Please don't :(
If you don't want to give to people who just make region restricted or Group GAs use SGTools. There's a filter for that.
Beside that there is nothing we can do and nothing is going to change... Threads like this just cause unnecessary drama.
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Everything you're asking for can be handled by SGTools. The fact that none of SGTools features have been integrated into public giveaways is seemingly because cg disagrees with you on what makes a fair primary distribution framework. Being hostile toward the other users of this site because they have different perspectives or circumstances than you, for matters that are out of their hands, is more than a bit.. awkward.
If you have actual suggestions on how to counter exploitation without taking away the rights of other users to use this site in their own way, or if you want to push for cg to implement filters into public giveaways, I recommend you rephrase your post accordingly and set the forum category of this thread to Bugs/Suggestions.
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make group
invite people from your region
make row ga
send region locked gift worth 30%
get full cv
if you don't like region locked gifts, send a card to every developer and valve. or maybe force all countries to have the same economy so we will be all equals here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Why are contributed region restricted games not valued at the regional price?
Different incomes. By the way as long as in eastern Europe we're paying western prices with our salaries that are third of it, I think noone has the right nor the knowledge to even try to fix the mess that's the result of regional pricings.
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You're paying the same price, but you deserve more chances than I do? I have no chances towards ANY region-locked games, remember. I am sorry your country puts up with western prices, maybe ask Russia their secret.
ru Russian Ruble 449р. $7.11 -52.58% 89р. at -82%
cn Chinese Yuan ¥48.00 $7.20 -52.00% ¥22.00 at -75%
in Indian Rupee ₹ 479 $7.20 -51.95% ₹ 182 at -75%
my Malaysian Ringgit RM31.00 $7.52 -49.82% RM10.08 at -82%
mx Mexican Peso Mex$149.99 $7.74 -48.39% Mex$48.59 at -82%
br Brazilian Real R$24,99 $7.76 -48.23% R$10,07 at -82%
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You're paying the same price, but you deserve more chances than I do?
Is Hungary part of any restricted region I am not aware of ?
Also how would you solve the problem of people just not marking their GAs as region restricted ?
This is more or less a rhetorical question. This issue has been discussed at length roughly a million times and there is no reasonable solution to it.
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I was talking about Adam not me but just for clarity both of us are from Central Europe, a not restricted and (together with NA) pretty much the most expensive region there is in Steam. If anyone gets fucked over it's us but there's not much use complaining because nothing is going to change.
And while it is very honorable to make mostly public GAs if you feel like you're taken advantage of either:
Those are pretty much the options ;)
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Why would you need a chance to win something you can't activate ?
You have over 2000 games. Someone with 100 games will be able to enter more giveaways than you because they don't own the games, are you going to be upset about that too ?
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step away now, step away, remember it's nearly the weekend and you don't need the stress of replying to this type of thread for the millionth time - let others take the time and energy to play wack a mole for a bit :P (that is my support for your support)
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Why are contributed region restricted games not valued at the regional price?
What about regions with internal different prices? The South American region has places where prices are lower, and places where they pay US prices.
And how about ROW keys. You can get them cheaper in NZ or Norway, should we get CV based on that?
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That's a very nuanced question, and I will answer with the first thing that comes to my head. Every game's value should be set to the cheapest it's been anywhere. That means $1 CV for Trackmania Collection even though nobody but Korea got it for that price.
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I can see two major issues with that:
First of all, it would require a lot of work to keep up with, having to manually change things all the time. Something I'm sure the staff would be quite unhappy with (remember, they're not payed).
It would also greatly discourage any giveaways for those games. It's bad enough with the bundle list, and how it discourages people from making certain giveaways, this would make that problem even worse, and would put an even greater focus on CV over quality giveaways.
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The different prices are all available from the steam API, and there is already a list for freebies and bundled games, I don't see it as being more difficult than using the current valuation system. There are other automated sites which track the lowest prices.
I guess it would lower the amount of people trying to exploit deals for unfair CV, but is that really a bad thing at the end of the day?
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The different prices are all available from the steam API, and there is already a list for freebies and bundled games, I don't see it as being more difficult than using the current valuation system. There are other automated sites which track the lowest prices.
You do not want to rely on the steam API for anything permanent. Its quirks and glitches are already causing issues on SG. Those automated sites that track from a wide range of sources are also unreliable, with incorrect prices often getting reported. They're better than nothing, but if you want to actually use it for a system like this, it would require someone monitoring them.
Also, you're comparing having an on/off switch to having to manually input a number. It's more work to manually set prices than it is to tick a box that says "bundled".
I guess it would lower the amount of people trying to exploit deals for unfair CV, but is that really a bad thing at the end of the day?
If it means fewer good games getting given away? Yes, then it's absolutely a bad thing.
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You're not technically wrong, but the bundle list is already making good giveaways more and more rare, as people still care about CV (I do as well, to an extent) - let's say we know that Resident Evil 4 and 5 got bundled, so even if you buy it in the story on a discount for let's say 5$ instead of 20, it will still only give you 3$ CV. While if you buy the newest ]Indiegala Monday shitbundle](https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/r39Hc/indiegala-monday-motivation-6) which has very, very likely BAD games - but new bad games - you'll get 15% of the ~39$ retail - so 6$ CV. For 3$.
So, many people rather give the newest games (from store) because they are unbundled, and as something gets bundled and the wave of giveaways is done, it will appear way more scarcely. Setting a fix lowest price would make it even worse IMO. If for example a game was 5$ min, then that will be the CV, or bundled 15% will come on that one, throwing it'ss worth under a buck? Who would give it away at all at that point?
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That's an excellent example, and I agree with you there. I wonder if a metric could be observed for giveaways, such as number of GAs and entrants, which could change/free-up CV of popular games from the bundled-that-one-time list. I think we're going off on a tangent now though.
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imho CV is just a bonus reward for giving away games (which this site is all about in the first place), dunno why people cry about and focus so hard on it
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Well, it's not a perfect system but...
It's hard to make it better.
It's true, a lot of people have tons of region-restricted or group gibs, but you should also consider that those people also won a lot of stuff in region/group gibs.
You have powerful tools like blacklist and sgtool to filter bad people.
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It exists as is because we haven't yet figured out a better way.
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And you've only been here a year, there's a lot more in store!!!!!111one :DDDDDDDDD
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Why are contributed region restricted games not valued at the regional price?
I know it's just a first-world problem, but it seems like a glitch when someone can swap their Rubles for Pounds.
Why do Group/Private giveaways count fully towards CV?
I've seen accounts which have contributed ZERO to my prospective pool of prizes, with double my CV, and waaay more prospects to win (because they're also getting private/group/regional GAs as well as the higher level for normal GAs). I know a lot of you have joined your niche groups to make friends and have a game gifting party, but some of us just want a platform for fair distribution to strangers, not a way to feed your private group even more games.
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