Hi,
i and other ones, that inform gifters about sgtools and how extreme the abuse with autojoining is, got reported in the past and the result was that we don't broke a rule and, obviously, don't got a punishment.

Where users tell the Creator how they should make their giveaways.
, what to do when the giveaway is over etc.

I don't say what a gifter have to do, which sites to use or something like this.
I give a gifter informations about sgtools and the abuse here on sg, what he do after this is his own decission.

This kind of information can be gathered in a forum thread. And then anyone interested can visit, read and act accordingly if they chose to.

You mean like this, https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/nrsW7/need-feedback-from-the-moderators-about-spam-comments ,where i wrote that i need/want feedback from the mods, and where i weren't aware from the begin that the "thanks script" is a integrated part of the autojoiner program that can be activated or deactivated ?
The Thread that all mods avoided (one junior mod excluded that couldn't do something and couldn't speak for the majority of the mods) ?
The thread that lead to exactly nothing. No reactions from the mods, no punishment for the autojoiners -with the existing spam rule easy possible, if wished, because none for autojoining exist-- I would say i offered them on the silver plate and nothing happened.
I be very direct "If the [majority of the] mods don't care for such a thread, what did you expect from the members?"

Other people and i invested 3 months of work into 250+ autojoiner tickets (i don't go deeper into details) and only 20% are handled after 3(?) months. [This isn't a reproach for Gaffi, Eefrit and Pete, they done a lot over the years]

If the Creator responds they do not wish to see such messages in their giveaways, it should be an automatic end of the conversation. They made the giveaway, it's their space to enjoy, they decide how they want to interact with users and who is allowed to join.

Where do you see that the gifter write that he don't want to see such a message and where did you see then that i answer him on something with "but you must do what i say" or something similar ?
I see here absolute nothing like this.

And besides that, i write each gifter exactly one time.
I don't write them today and in 1 week again, i don't write in multiple GAs.
I never had this case and i would say i remember me very well on the gifters that i informed and i check always the GAs of them, if i joined a GA and if so i check the GAs of the last months if i wrote such a message there. If not i send a informing message. So i would say i do all to not contact someone 2x with similar or same infos.

Each of the autojoiners with activated thanks script (so the dumbest ones of them) spam dozens of exactly the same messages each day, in each GA, but hey they don't annoy the gifter or you. It's such a bad joke that i can only shake my head :-D

Have you seen all the GAs were gifters write "Don't thank me or i blacklist you" or "I don't like thanks spam" ?
Or all the gifters that thank me for the information that i wrote them (the same message as above) ? If not i could send you dozens (maybe hundred).

Maybe open 30 random, low level, public GAs and your eyes are opened after looking in the descriptions, the comments and compare words/sentences, users/accounts etc. that you see. Maybe it would change your view.

Creators can be rightfully annoyed when such things occur. That's why I will ask you to stop posting the above message (and any of its variants) in the future. Users don't want their giveaways to become someone's else notice boards.

Each gifter that is "rightfully annoyed" can express that with words and/or a blacklist. Nothing stop them to type or click something.
Did you think a user can't do that without your "intervening" ? Then you think very bad about the users.

If you see it different as multiple other mods and all users that try to help the site, and importent enough to come along with such a text, then please point me the exact sg rule that i break that i am able to read it there.

Calling out is against our guidelines, and you're stepping a fine line here. You will need to stop to call out users only because they posted a message before you.

My sentence "The most of the comments before are from autojoiners." don't use names, i don't write "all of the comment before are...", so it is not a clear calling out and maximum as you name it "steeping on a fine line (but not stepping over it)". To avoid discussions i will not use the PS part anymore.

But besides the PS thing, i see your message as a personal problem that you have with me and nothing that is based on the existing sg rules.

I don't have a problem with you but your last texts to me about "off topic" stuff and today this text look "strange".

Perhaps change your acting from protecting autojoiners and write someone that you don't like, about his "wrong doing" (which isn't against existing sg rules -at least as far as i see it, till you send me the exact rules that should count in this case-), maybe you (will) write other ones too that try to help the site with informing other ones about autojoiners, sgtools etc. (i know at least 3 other ones that inform sometimes gifters -each different as the other ones [but 2 based their text on a part of mine]-) and perhaps instead invest the used time to handle autojoiner tickets that they would be [at some point] (perma) suspended.
That would have much more and a much positiver effect and it would help the site much more and would terminate the necessity, for others and me, to inform users that the autojoiners exist here so much, that sgtools could be used to check winners on infractions etc.. Would be cool not to be "forced" to spend worthy lifetime for such stuff that should be standard on a site....
It would lower the GAs where the gifters write that they don't want thanks spam messages and would create a much positiver interaction with the comment writers in general. So exactly what you want.

I am sure you will see the most too when you look on the arguments and not which one wrote them.

I am sleepy and my english is worse in such a case, if something isn't perfect translated and could be seen in a positive and a negative way, then pick the positive one.

Oh and maybe i will not write the information again but in that case not because your demand (or whatever i should call your text) and instead because i realize with each day more how wasted the invested lifetime is.
Special after such a long text it is very obvious that the autojoiners aren't the main problem.

Have a good night.