Perhaps my wording has been confusing because that is the opposite to my logic. Sorry about that! In my opinion, in this particular matter, there are either gifting (with no expectation of getting item in return) or trading (with expectation of getting item in return). Yes, there are things in between something like "soft trading" as in gifting but kinda hoping to get item in return but I still consider that as a form trading instead of gifting.

I think that this site has zero to do with charity. I have participated on multiple forum discussion regarding on this topic and still consider that giving games is not charity. They are luxury items meant for entertainment and luxury does not belong into charity.

As I understand, we merely have different opinion on gifting in general and that is alright. I personally don't feel the social pressure associated to gifting as you define it. For example, I can, and will, give gifts to friends without expecting them to give something back. I also give gifts here to people I do not know and still don't expect them to gift back to me or anyone else. You could point out that I previously stated to expect them gift feelings etc. back to me but it goes quite deep in semantics.

I don't understand your comment with Shell at all or how it relates to this discussion. Sorry.

My original comment was merely disagreeing with your view on gifting and low level users. The latter is a more lengthy topic on itself but also one where I just disagree with you. We have disagreements but I did not intend those as personal attacks. I hope you have a nice weekend! :)

You responded while I was writing comment but I slightly touched this topic in it. As stated, I think that goes quite deep into semantics but I'll try to summarize my thoughts on this:

• In this topic, I consider a trade where person A gives game to person B which returns by giving a game in return. So trade consists of two persons exchanging items of similar type.
• Yes, I agree on you that me expecting (hoping) for the winner to enjoy the game I give is also a trade when you go deep enough.
• If previous statement is true, it is very unlikely that anyone could perform a pure gifting i.e. giving something while expecting nothing out of it. This relates closely to a question: Can one take a truly selfless action? If we go to this level, my opinion is that no, people cannot act truly selflessly. It would require one to perform an action that would bring nothing to him/her. No material, social, economical, or any other boon nor fulfilling any existing desire or wish. If there is zero motivation, there will be no action.