i think saying cod is bad is almost as popular as cod.
they're good games. the MP has all the basic elements of a good-ish modern fps. I can't say I've poured a huge amount of time into it, but there are a lot of elements to like.
Your guns shoot where you aim,
the spray patterns are consistent and easy to memorize,
there is a constant stream of players so you never have to wait to play,
the maps are balanced enough,
the leveling gives incentive to keep playing,
the games are optimized to the point that they run smoothly,
and there is more skill involved than you think. It's just as easy to camp on csgo or battlefield or halo as it is on cod, and the bullshit "quickscoping" is console-exclusive.
And hating on the single player is just going full retard. The campaigns are written by accomplished screenwriters. The ending of BO1 blew your mind just as much as it did mine.
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As someone that dislikes Call of Duty and modern shooters in general, Black Ops 1 did have an amazing campaign, that is true.
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Generally the bandwagoners are the ones saying CoD is bad, what me and a lot of other people complain about is the lack of innovation in the series. Annual releases with nothing added to the game but a couple of maps that are often rehashes of old maps in a new environment and slightly different level design as well as a new gun circulation does not justify a full priced release.
They're not 'bad' per se, the playerbase is fucking horrible (because it's pre-pubescent) and the game is the exact bloody same every fucking year, and they're making ridiculous money on it which inspires other companies to do the same (ie. J-.. Ubisoft with the Assassin's Creed series) which kills the video games industry.
CoD is nothing but shitty business practice on an established consumer base, and because the consumer base is thirteen years old on median and blinded by fanboyism it's acceptable. It fucking shouldn't be.
Anyway, just go ahead and spend your annual $60+DLC on yet another remake of the exact same game, just don't get annoyed when people call you a mindless drone for doing so.
I'm aware that posting this rant may make me look like a PC gaming mustard race elitist cunt, but I'm going to take this risk and your negative view of me. I don't usually join into threads like this but when someone so poorly defends the series and calls everyone who says they dislike it a bandwagoner I have to.
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+1, and you deleted me for impersonating Roman :l.
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Annual releases with nothing added to the game but a couple of maps that are often rehashes of old maps in a new environment and slightly different level design as well as a new gun circulation does not justify a full priced release.
All of the maps are new game-to-game, not just a couple. I'm not sure what you're talking about with old maps in a new environment... The only example I can think of is Nuketown/2025 but that was a fan favorite map and it was heavily revamped. A new gun circulation is pretty significant, as well. You're also forgetting that almost every game is built on a new engine and that the treyarch games are very different from the infinity ward games. You start off pretending that each new cod game is an expansion, and more akin to dlc, and this is not the case. Keep in mind that each game comes with a 20+ hour campaign that simply can't be hated on.
They're not 'bad' per se, the playerbase is fucking horrible (because it's pre-pubescent) and the game is the exact bloody same every fucking year, and they're making ridiculous money on it which inspires other companies to do the same (ie. J-.. Ubisoft with the Assassin's Creed series) which kills the video games industry.
The xbox playerbase could be characterized as immature, but I don't think this is the case with the PC versions of the games. Also, you don't really have a valid point with ubisoft.. they have been rolling downhill for quite a while
CoD is nothing but shitty business practice on an established consumer base, and because the consumer base is thirteen years old on median and blinded by fanboyism it's acceptable. It fucking shouldn't be.
If I'm not mistaken, each game has outsold the last, so logic dictates that CoD has a growing fanbase, not an established clique of fanboys. Also, I'm not sure how a group (that you say is the same group) can be perpetually 13. If this group was 13 when the first modern warfare came out, they're 19-20 by now
Anyway, just go ahead and spend your annual $60+DLC on yet another remake of the exact same game, just don't get annoyed when people call you a mindless drone for doing so.
Who pays $60 for digital games ever? do you even steam? And if $60 a year (roughly the cost of two dinners) makes me a mindless drone for CoD you should get a load of what I spend on computer parts and auto parts yearly (most of which are rehashes of previous versions of the same parts).
I'm aware that posting this rant may make me look like a PC gaming mustard race elitist cunt, but I'm going to take this risk and your negative view of me.
.....are we not talking about the PC version?
I don't usually join into threads like this but when someone so poorly defends the series and calls everyone who says they dislike it a bandwagoner I have to.
right back at you
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Look at BO2's maps and tell me how many of them are inspirational and/or well designed. A lot of them are based on simple covers on two ends of the map and plain blocks to stand behind while running to the other side of the map, or even worse, all of this in a clusterfuck in the middle of the map. They're not made with a new engine each; in fact, they've been using the same engine for years. The gun circulation doesn't fucking justify a full priced release. It's a good thing to do with each release, but actual improvement and innovation is required to be able to charge AAA prices for a bunch of fucking guns to shoot with.
People who bought CoD4 have mainly either moved on to better games (CoD4 was still decent, though, and at the time the playerbase was decently mature). The CoD playerbase is pretty much the same age by average on all platforms, don't try to blame XB360 for all of the issues CoD has.
They outsell eachother every year because more and more parents are recklessly buying their barely speech-capable children CoD games, hivemind/mainstream works in a snowball effect.
Only talking 'the PC version' is like only talking about the strings on a shoe.
It's ok to disagree with me, but be prepared to look like a moron if you're not going to elaborate and support your arguments, I love arguing.
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I'm pretty sure I'm not the one looking like a moron here. Your posts are full of opinions, speculations, and anecdotes, and I'm pretty much only making statements that are objectively true. The link you provided only illustrates my point and directly contradicts the one you were making. There are 6 engines for 8 games, and your link even provides the changes made between each.
Your analogy is pretty far off when you say only talking PC is like only talking strings on a shoe. It's more like having 4 pizzas with different toppings and only talking about the one that you ate.
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I still enjoy the cod single player, but its overpriced... i only buy cod series when i find them in very very cheap price, for example last week i did brought the cod bo2 for 8,60€ physical version xD
i never would pay more than 25€ for a cod game
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Buying Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare on Steam in my opinion is fine. It's community offers a great deal of mods which can be fun at time. Also, CoD:4 isn't a bad game to begin with. I wouldn't disrespect anyone who buys Call Of Duty: World at War either, for it offers dedicated servers which also leads to community based modifications etc. Speaking of which, CoD, CoD2 and CoD3 aren't bad games either. If anyone buys a CoD game after my list, it's either because they're expecting things to change, their friends have the game, they're kids or they just enjoy the shallow, purely bad gameplay and enjoy watching their money disappear.
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Because cod has more mass appeal than salmon, even though salmon is generally the better choice. Also, fish does not have gameplay. Each individual fish might have its own story, I suppose, but how do you know it's weak? Just because they have tiny brains and don't do much doesn't mean they can't have a good story.
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because brainwaching machines force you to buy COD for bigger price. Still COD is OP everything is the same and will be the same
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Another cod thread another bunch of haters who dont have money to take both bf and cod{really this must be your problem. the reason that only kids play is not stable..just look league of legends statistics i dare you i double dare you}.So why people play cod the reason is simple for concoles is split screen and that you can easy create teams of 6 friends and play 6vs6{strangers} so you can say you can have some fun and battlefield you can too but not at all modes and low capacity servers is horrible such as only 8 players servers. i love only the 32 players servers so i cannot find 16 friends to play so when i want to play with my friends i play cod.Also guys plz stop hatting leave the players who want to play cod play their game and cod guys leave the players who want to play bf play bf.... what your problem what others playing
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Difference between lol and cod is that lol doesn't charge its playerbase 60 bucks every year for the same game. But the playerbase is definitely equally bad.
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haha like cod makes you to spend 60 bucks to play the game.IF activision came with policemen and FBI and told you buy cod or you go to jail then i agree with you banana completly if not then delete your comment
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Re-read the comment, realize how stupid you are, delete your comment and spare yourself the embarrasement.
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nothing to be embarraded for.You must be embarassed who compare a f2p game with cod
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Funny you would bring that up when you were the one to mention lol in the first place.
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i bring league of legends statistics up not the game.Statistics talks about playing time and other things no how much players spend and etc etc
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i am comparing the statistics not the games also i read all your posts and see what hater you are. all the fps you describe you make them better than cod and also you have play 30 minutes cod mw2 and sp 0 minutes how you can desribe a game withought playing it
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Clearly steam is the only way to play CoD and there's no way I could possibly own console versions of the games. I also don't need 2000 hours in a game to be able to notice how simple the mechanics are.
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you dont need 2000 hours but you need to have play all the single player and at least some hours of mp you have play only 30 minutes of mp and not at all single player so you cannot critisize a game withought know nothing about it.In this situation you are the kid trapped in a grown up body not cod players.
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To tell the truth i abandoded the two last games of cods first because i read for university and secondly because i hated the smg gameplay style they were so op that i couldnt play but i never hated cod for these.Also i play bf,cod and moh whatever the critis or people said and the reason is simple if the game is crap is because commnutity make it crap when they start the hate and hacks etc etc.One year before i start the develop of a game with ready scripts with cryengine 3 with 10 others friends trust me was very hard to fix it without money.We reached in a state which we wanted 1000 euro just for the enviroment so we abandoded the project{this go replay for your 60 bucks thing}.so dont complain for the same crap every year
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Also plenty of users here are people who used hacks and got banned.I got banned at bo2 because i used trainers{no aimbots etc i hate them really}but i didnt stop to play the series not even mw2 so i am tired see people say the cod is the same crap.If it is the same crap why you buy games powered from unreal engine 3 games all has the same graphics the same enviroments only the story and the weapons change
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Why are action movies still popular? Couldn't we have just stopped at Die Hard decades ago?
CoD is popular for the same reason that Transformers is a popular movie series. You can turn your brain off and enjoy some explosions for a while.
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:roflol: Counter-Strike is probably the most modded game ever, tons off different types of games in a game.
But for Counter-Strike you actually need skill. That's probably what you lacked.
Not a single game has keept me buzy as long as Counter-Strike did. Thousands of maps, many mods GG, RPG, Surf, ... and almost every server is unique. I prefer CSS.
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I like CS GO less. I did try it for a while (not mods, only 'normal' / 'classic' mode and gotten into top 20 xD (already out a while now cuz haven't played it anymore for months). But I don't like the 'gungame'-like mode they made. Gungame how it was (mainly the maps) was so much better on CSS. (By now they probably have GG servers with those maps by now?) Might check it out again in the future.
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Well, different people, different choices, that's all there man, if you don't like COD that doesn't man someone else doesn't like it too :)
But well, i agree with you, the price is just too damn high :s but well, there are people who likes spending money on games, that they will actually never play :D
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You want the truth guys you are all retards why to fight for a video game REALLY WHY.NOBODY MAKES YOU TO BUY THEM so all stfu and just play what you want and dont make threads like i hate cod i hate bf i hate {put whatever game you want} and start get a personal life ffs play what you love and leave what you dont love to be forgotten
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I hate COD.
Everybody should hate COD.
They don't give a damn about gamers nor do they care about others their entertainment.
They only care about selling as many copies as possible for as much as possible.
It's one of the most expensive games and also the most profitable. They're scamming the people by how much they ask for it, they could easily sell it for normal prices and probably wouldn't make less profit doing that. But it's a part of their marketing strategy. People seeing something beeing sold at a high price: "oh that must be very good" and they buy it. As a marketeer I'm disgusted by that. Using such a strategy for juwelry and stuff like that is OK, but for games that are supposed to be entertainment and sold to kids... No ethics. Garbage.
They're the iPhone of games but even crappier.
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I don't know where the hell you live, but where I live, we go for the LEAST expensive thing. More expensive things just turn me off of a product.
Also the DEV'S care about the gamers, (at least Treyarch), it's just the publisher that doesn't give a damn.
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People only go for the least expensive thing when they're all really the same.
What you've said now for example completely conflicts with my iPhone example. If what u said is true, why do so many people buy iPhone? Because I remember the time before iPhones people would already think of 200 € as a very expensive mobile phone.
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but i dont find the reason why so much hate when nobody makes us buy it dont buy it then you cannot say to someone dont buy it because you hate it and because you believe everybody must hate it
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It's partially ethics and people feel like they're getting ripped off.
It's like the LA Noire thing I've mentioned somewhere on this forum. It was sold for 3,75 dollars (= € 2,8) in the US and for € 10 in Europe. I didn't buy it. Similar games to COD sell for less, COD doesn't (or almost doesn't) lower prices over time and most importantly they can absolutely sell it for cheaper / lower price and make the same amount of profit. But that last thing would be temporary, as the pricing is a huge part of their marketing strategy. If they sell at normal prices their fanbase would shrink quite a lot faster.
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also thing this they do their job this means they create a product which they have put effort and spend money{employees and other stuffs} so if you dont buy it this year dont buy it the next one the series will be cancelled.Am i right until now if yes keep read.Publisher have this game king of the hill at his yearly summerise of this incomes so no big incomes unability to pay employees means bankrupsy this means more unemployers.So everybody must hate cod is not correct the correct term is go dont buy it or wait to drop down his price this means plenty of people dont buy it and buy it in a correct price.Also there are various sites you can buy cod for 45 euros
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you know that the real price of activision is not 60 bucks all over the internet said is 50 bucks just try to search why 10 more euros
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If they sold COD cheaper even from release they'd still make plenty of money. COD tends to be already profitable after just one week of sales. The problems you mention are a worry for many games but not for COD. It's a cashcow, if u know what that means (BCG-matrix).
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"but for games that are supposed to be entertainment and sold to kids"
jolly good marketeer you are when they are NOT designed for kids since they have a rating of 18+
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It has a repetitive sh*t gameplay with weak story and with outrageous price, why are you doing this people?:S just because it's popular, or what?
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