I want this thread to be a bit more specific. This random guy was me and i started a thread when 12 hrs past after the giveaway end. I know, this is not week, but it is not nice from you to say that it was "a pair of hours". And i never used to send messages that someone "owes" me something. When he was online, but hacked i just said like:
Hello! I am winner of Borderlands giveaway. U here? Then i got blocked on steam. After that on forums i just asked for support, like what are my options. I didn't beknave anybody. But I admit that my standings were a little bit demandful. Still i never told that someone owes me it.
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Mmhmm. This isn't something that is supposed to be done in almost an instant.
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Indeed. I guess nagging once like every day most people wouldn't mind but just 12 hours?
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But is it REALLY harassment if you are simply informing someone that you are the person who won it? It doesn't seem like he spammed the guy nonstop about it. Just a simple "Hello, I won [x]. I'll be here whenever you are ready and comfortable." I've had nothing but good experiences on here, so I cannot speak for everyone, but it doesn't seem to be THAT pertinent.
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I think alot of people took a cursory glance at what was being said by the OP of that thread, drew their conclusions, and that was the end of it...It turned out that Actionsmith was correct in his alarm, didn't it? ..The constant messages? I thought I read he essentially touched base, then reacted as the guy responded with deleted comments, blocking, etc. You know, things that someone abusing the system would do.
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I waited three days and didn't open a thread, except this I suppose, but I want to say that the gift giver is the one setting the time that the giveaway ends. Don't you think it's a bit illogical for him to wait another week while he already specified one date. I think there is a need for a middle ground so that anxious people on both side, people who say nobody claimed the gift, and people who say the gift giver gave nothing, can be content.
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Things come up, some people just randomly click a date and don't check their calendars to make sure they'll be at their desk ready to send a stranger a gift. I wasn't around when my first giveaway ended, but the person that won it didn't complain about the extra six hours it took me to send it. The person winning has no right to complain about how long their free game takes to get to them, imo, as they're benefiting from the charity and generosity of a stranger - they're getting something for nothing, and relying on the gift giver to happily get nothing for something. Which is the basis of the site, so don't push the gift givers. Don't get the gift after a week, mark it as not received and move on.
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I agree that people don't need to camp the site to give or receive gifts or spam the other party with messages. But I must also say that coordination and communication between two sides are important. I don't know the current system but maybe mailing or pming the winner and the gift giver can facilitate the job.
Also with the removal of fake giveaways I think this impatient people will be put at ease.
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They can only do so much...so quickly. Plus the winners are not losing anything, the gift giver has as much time(a week) as they need to give you a game. Things come up. Communication is bad in a lot of cases, I use to gift games long before Steamgifts. It was horrible, people would pm me, want to be my friend and everything else. If they didn't win a game or didn't get their game fast enough they freaked out. Some people live in different time zones, what is 3pm for you could be 3am for someone else and they could be sleeping. They won't know you won their game till they wake up and by then people are raging.
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Time zones can really cause problems. Yet they work, in principle, for the advantage of gift giver, since you can select the time it ends.
For communications I suggest an in-site private message system, because as you said not everyone wants to add people as friends or give them their e-mails and collect spam. But an in-site private message would serve as a throwaway inbox, without giving up privacy.
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Except in Actionsmith's instance...the gifter didn't spend anything, really, either...and that was the root of his problem or concern. People do have lives, but when was the last time you stopped amidst your busy day, just so you could log into Steam and then walk away from it, to continue your daily routine?
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Isn't a steamgift account linked to a person's Steam account, how can it even be shared?
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Yes, people need to learn some patience. The way I look at it, if you enter a giveaway and win a game WOOHOO your one of the lucky ones. Now if said giveaway was fake and you can't receive your gift, O WELL your still just as unlucky as you were before you entered it, move on and find another giveaway. Not like you paid anything to be a part of this site or to get your points.
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I think what the people who are being branded as "impatient" would like to know is: what happens to the false gift-giver? And honestly, hearing an argument in favor of waiting/all-in-due-time say something along the lines of "I had to wait like, 3 hours before I got my gift" isn't really an argument in favor...It's just pointing out that you got your gift much earlier than how long you are telling people to simply wait. =P
(Note: Don't presume that I'm impatient...I'm not complaining, but offering a devil's advocacy...I've the patience of a saint. I'd like to think that there IS some sort of safeguard against someone showing up and offering giveaways they've no intention to validate, while they actively enter into other giveaways. At least besides an obscure mark on their steamgifts profile...If that's the extent of it, then so be it. Do they get banned if they reach a number of not-received marks?)
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Wait a week, and then tell a moderator. Recently, someone didn't get their gift after a few hours, then called out the guy on the forums. I talked to the gifter, someone else had used his account. However, the 'winner' had called him out, then started sending him messages saying he 'owed' him the game. I talked to the guy and am 100 percent sure that he did not join this site, and someone else did. However he felt so bad that someone else cheated the winner, and was so upset by the person yelling at them that he gave them TF2 shit. Guys, read the FAQ. Wait a week, and then tell a mod. Don't just leap onto the forum.
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