Do you think USB headsets suck?
I just cite some comment from reddit:
Audio is stored on your computer as digital files. To play through your headphones, the digital files are reconstructed into analog waveforms by a device called a DAC (digital to analog converter). If your headphones plug directly in by USB, that means that there is a DAC in the plug. This is NOT good - a DAC within a cable is going to be pretty crappy. If you use a 3.5mm connection to your computer, the conversion to analog has already been done within your computer, either by a discrete sound card or by a chip integrated with the motherboard. This is preferable.
Many of us on this sub use an external DAC/amp, which is basically a sound card that sits outside of the computer, away from EMI interference. These devices are usually far more powerful than onboard sound cards, and cheaper for the same level of performance.
So I would recommend not to use USB headphones. I've never seen any decent variations of them. And may I ask: why do you need them?
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I had my 3.5mm jack broken. so i use a USB headset. I'm using the Sennheiser PC 8 USB headphones. So far so good. No buzzing noise that u speak of. But somehow there is always audio playing even if i turn the vol. on headphone switch to zero. I think it could be the soundcard problem with the USB heaphone.
But yes, avoid USB as much as possible.
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I plug in my Headphones in my speakers and there is some sound even if speakers are as silent as possible, but on. I think it might be amplified too much so you can't completely shut down the audio. At any rate, no harm done, its not exactly loud.
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Yeah, no.
An USB headset that directly plugs into a USB port has a DAC for listening and a ADC for the microphone. The DAC and ADC are usually in the headphones themselves (not in the plug). EDIT: for some design it is in the cable, but it does not mean it is crap (depends on the hardware), but if you see that good external DAC-s go for 50-70 dollars and good (good is subjective and depends on the listener) 3,5 mm headphones cost almost the same than getting 30 dollar usb headset is a bad idea.
There is no certain measure that the supplied DAC and ADC are worse or better than the ones you have in your computer. It really depends on the headset and your motherboard.
The last part is utter nonsense. An external DAC is a Digital analog converter with an amplifier and it is NOT a sound card. It does no audio processing (digital signal processing), it just amplifies and converts digital to analog. A sound card does audio processing and takes the processing away from the CPU (for external DAC the CPU does all the audio processing). The devices cannot be directly compared on same price point, because they have different functionality. However, you can compare the DAC on an external DAC and the DAC that is on the sound card.
tl;dr - USB headsets may be superior if the DAC in them is superior to the DAC your motherboard has (you have to look it up). If you a have an external DAC, audio interface or a sound card in your computer then an USB headset is not a wise idea.
Was the buzzing present even if it wasn't connected to the computer? (not computer switched off, but physically)
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I've had a pair of speakers that were very cheap and could pick up radio stations or something like that (bad shielding).
But yeah, I read you tried it with many devices, so it is probably the headphones themselves. If they are cheap it's no suprise.
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3.5's more useful seeing as you can route whatever signal you're using through any number of external volume controls, or use splitters, or route it back to your microphone to record livestreams/podcasts/whatever in addition to your spoken word.
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I get interference when I use a 3.5 jack and my wireless mouse. Not so with USB.
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3.5mm will be the better quality but I currently use a USB one. I've always had really good luck using a Logitech USB headset. I only use this for audio in game and for teamspeak/vent/curse voice/etc.
Make sure you have your sound card drive updated and all that jazz what not and such.
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I almost always use usb headphones and I've never noticed buzzing. my last two sets were 7.1 surround ones and they made a fair approximation of it even if it wasnnt quite the same. Certainly takes up less space in my computer room. (When not using usb I use my bluetooth headset )
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Well, first of all - I never used USB headphones, so I can't tell my experience with it.
But, you have to understand, that when you buy a USB headphones, you actually buying one more sound card for your PC, that is hidden inside of this headphones. Probably, in your case, this sound card is poorly shielded from actual audio, that's why you get interference in your sound.
It's strange, that you tried headphones in shop and there was no problems. This can mean that it's your PC that makes interference. I can't give good advice in this case, actually never met this problem, but you can try to adjust "spread spectrum" settings in your bios (of course, read about it first).
Good luck in solving your problem!
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Well, if it's reproduced at the store, maybe this headphones just crap...
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I've used USB Headsets all the time, and never had that problem, but I didn't buy them from gamestop. Right now, I'm using a wireless.
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Sounds like a ground fault to me. Don't ask me how to solve it though. :D
(Try unplugging anything unnecessary from your computer, making sure you're using three-prong plugs and outlets on everything, and making sure the house/outlet wiring itself is grounded.)
(Crystal Gamer's post on EMI interference actually seems pretty sound too. Initially thought you still had the issue with USB and 3.5".)
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3,5mm because blocks no USB port and can be used on other devices.
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Are you using a laptop?
If not try to plug the headset to the back panel's usb. I always avoid using the front panel for headphones (both jack or usb), such panel's cables pass though a bunch of electromagnetic fields and fan vibrations which sure disturbs any analog signal. Bear in mind that every usb port carries 5V which is not healthy for your signal as well (but that's for audiophiles).
That buzzing even with computer off makes me think to a faulty ground somewhere. To exclude it's a faulty onboard soundcard problem try any cheap jack headphone, if you still can hear it then I'm afraid your only option would be a new soundcard.
Edit: As Thallassa reminded me, with a built-in DAC a faulty onboard soundcard shouldn't be your problem since the headset should figure as a standalone soundcard itself.
Still you need to find what produces that buzz. Since 2 fresh new headset had the same problem it must be your PC.
My current setup, if you're interested:
ESI Prodigy X-Fi NRG
Superlux HD-681 Evo
a Modmic-alike I built myself
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Here we go again with the headsets... Dear lord.
Alright first of all, both USB and 3,5mm should (!) be able to work fine! The difference is that a USB-Headset has it's own DAC, the thing crystalgamer talked about - and, as in the post, it's pretty cheap stuff in there. The same, ofc, goes, needless to say, for wireless headsets, they're also getting the signal from that, where else?
In and of itself, that is alright, because USB is mostly pretty safe from interference, much more so than 3,5mm. The 3,5mm jacks get their signal directly from the audio-output of the PC or device, be it a dedicated soundcard or the on-board one on the motherboard. They both are relatively prone to interference, because they draw their power directly from the PCs power supply, which often doesn't quite deliver the exact current needed to drive these devices perfectly. On high-end devices (Meaning: high-end headphones) you can even hear a difference in sound between a good and a bad power supply in the PC. Even if the sound card has it's own dedicated power circuit, interference does occur quite often. In and of itself though, 3,5mm jacks offer the possibility to upgrade your audio via a better sound card. Although in case of headsets, the value spent for a sound card and the actual difference in sound audible, is very low, due to the phones themselves being very limited in their capacity.
In any case, neither USB nor 3,5 mm is to be preferred when it comes to headsets in any way. They're not technically identical, but there's no striking feature to prefer one of them. In other devices, like DACs and amps (soundcards, in gamer-terms), USB is the far more preferable option, for instance. A reason high-end devices exclusively use USB rather than, say, PCIe. Cheap devices also use it, ofc, but not exclusively.
So, what I reccomend you to do is like with any other headset-user:
1) go buy a Kingston Hyper X Cloud (There's two versions, the second has a cheap USB-Dac. Make your pick, but it's the only headset that's reccomendable in terms of being able to compete with sound quality of similarly priced headphones. Also the quality is more than the typical-headset-100%-fragile-plastic.
2) Go buy seperate microphones and headphones. It may come a tad more expensive, but decent (focus the decent, there's a lot, A LOT of trash out there!) The seperate microphone will do a much better job recording your voice, without intereferences, buzzing or whatever, while there's still plenty of options available. From usb-mics you can just put on your desk (they're very small, so don't worry) like the samson meteorite or go mic, or to mics you can put on the headphones with a magnet like the modmic 4.0 to mics you can put directly into the empty socket of a headphone with removable cables, like the v-moda boom pro mic.
A good headphone can last more than ten years, I've never seen anything with the label "gamer headset" do that. Parts are often changeable, so when the pads croak, you just buy new ones for $10, and so on.
Lastly, I know, everyone who owns a headset it like "Ermagerd, mah headset is the best out there! it's not bad! You're stupid for saying that!"
I've heard that a lot. That's mostly because you have to experience sound to know how it can sound and feel better, you have to experience comfort for the same. A lot, a whole lot of people just haven't done that open-mindedly or expandedly enough, maybe also not with the right headphone models. I urge everyone opposing me to go try a few good headphones or to at least just read up a bit on headsets versus headphones before telling me, I'm an idiot.
For a starting point, try these pages:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-4-8-2015-full-x2-review-update
http://www.head-fi.org/t/635504/headset-vs-headphones-gaming
Although I've stumbled on a lot of idiocy already while googling for helping points for you. Still the lies with the "audio designed for gaming" and shit.
If you're german, this is also kind of interesting: http://www.tomshardware.de/gaming-headset-sounding-theorie-surround-sound,testberichte-241717.html
Shame the english-speaking page of tomshardware doesn't even have that article, at least, I couldn't find it.
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So I bought these Gamestop headphones from Gamestop What a surprise :O
and there was just unbearable hissing/buzzing/idk sound at all times(even when computer was off).
So I got them replaced and tried it again. Same thing... Got back there and insisted that we would try the headset there so they would know what I was going through. Replaced the headset with something that I've actually heard of. Turtle Beach Earforce P11 I felt really stupid for buying those but I thought that they would work...
Same problem... Now I'm sitting here and wondering if all USB headphones make that sound.(These 3 were my first USB headphones)
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23.05.2015 16:06 GMT+2 EDIT.
I returned the Headset to Gamestop and bought new one from local store GameTown. I know the guy who runs the place so I expected that I could troubleshoot it with him. So I bought something called Kunai wireless headset which could also be used as wired I dream came true and the buzzing was still there. We tried it at the store with a laptop and the most pure power output there is. He's like: "I don't hear a thing" and I'm like: "Really? Well that's great!". But when I try I can hear the buzzing. Age thing I guess :/
His daughter was fortunately nearby and she tried them on and she heard the buzzing.
MTLVMPR officially confirmed not crazy at least not that kind of crazy...
He tells me that he owns exactly same headset and he will try it at home or will make her daughter to try cuz he's kinda old:/
So... Wish me luck! I hope this was insightful.
I also rebuilt my PC to fix the problem but I guess I just could've tried them with laptop. Well at least the cable management is at it's most beautiful state.
Government EMP is not listed out yet... Damn those guys...
Here are some pictures:
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