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Value of Bundles not listed in the Bundles list (ie. L4d/l4d2)

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otakimeee

I understand that bundled games have discounted value as a gift and those are listed on the bundles page saying when they have been bundled previously. So I tried looking up the l4d/l4d2 bundle and it's not listed there. Is it because these are full games and not a bunch of indie games from one dev packaged together, or some other criteria is considered? Or maybe that the list just missed the L4d bundle?

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Meetrock

Not really, the reason some bundles don't appear because Valve applied the new "bundle price according to your account history". Which means if you're getting a bundle that consists of 10 games and you own 2 of which, the price will reduce to count only the remaining 8 games. This will also prevent people from buying packs as gifts as long as they own one or more of the games in the pack. Therefore the price isn't firm to all people.

P.S: As an example, I just bought Valve Complete Pack for $2.5 because I have the majority of the games and it only counted the ones I don't have.

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otakimeee

Ok, I see there is a clarification besides the title that gives a bit more explanation just like you said. Then because the price is potentially different for different people, the GA bundle list doesn't list it? So I would assume for all intents and purposes the gift value is discounted since a bundle is a bundle.

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hanibalch

no because you cant buy those bundles as a Steam gift

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Meetrock

Yes, the bundle list wil not list it, because the bundle is created only for YOU. And it cannot be bought as a gift.

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dingbat

Are Day of Defeat and Ricochet worth $3.59? (also missing two other games I have zero interest in)

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otakimeee

I don't know if DoD is good. Or you meant to ask Rockyy cause he seems to have all the valve games.

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Meetrock

Day of Defeat, Ricochet and Deathmatch Classic costed me $2.5, as a collector it's a pretty good deal tbh.

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Anknownlolz

Day of defeat is terrible game :D but fun with friends, Ricochet is terrible even with friends

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dingbat

yeah, I didn't think it'd be worth it.
I'm pretty sure they'd just take up space in my library without ever getting played. Like Half-Life

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Axelflox

The criteria for a bundle to be included on the list is the percentage of discount, if a game or package/bundle is 95% off or more (under pretty much any circumstance respect US price) it gets added to the bundle list. The L4D bundle probably never got a discount that deep and that's why it's not considered as "bundled", just like how some tier 3 games from HB don't get into the list.

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otakimeee

It goes on sale every event but ya, never down to -95% which would make it pretty much free. Thanks for the info Axel.

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Meetrock

L4D was free 2 play once. That's considered a %100 discount.

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Sundance85

I wasn't active at that time but I think you could only add it to your own libary so there was no way to get extras to give away. It was Free 2 keep by the way which is a small but important difference.

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Meetrock

Yes, it was only avaialable to add to library.

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Sundance85

A Steam bundle (package) is considered bundled when all parts of the package are on the Bundle list. None of the seperate games were discounted deep enough to end up on the Bundle list so the package is neither.

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otakimeee

So the steam bundles custom generated for users I can still gift the individual game separately and for the dev bundles those would be reduced value cause it's straight up a bundle if they are deeply discounted. And just for clarifications sake, using this as an example http://store.steampowered.com/app/347610/, a bundle that isn't deeply discount (plus given each individual game isn't on the list) would not be reduced in gift value?

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Sundance85

Yes, if you buy the contents from a custom generated bundle seperatly you can still gift them seperatly. And with all other packages (basicly everything that can be purchased as a gift) it depends on the discount. If they have been discounted 95% or more of the US price (in any region) they will count as bundled (= will only give 15% Real CV).

About the Hidden Object Bundle 4 in 1 you used in your clarification example:
Although it has the word Bundle in the name it appears not to be a package (because there are no contents listed) but rather 4 games tacked together as a new game like Deponia: The Complete Journey which also doesn't give you the 3 seperate Deponia games but combines them into a "new" game.

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Sundance85

But to answer your clarification question more general:
Yes. If the Bundle itself is not on the Bundle list and neither are the seperate games you will get 100% of the store price as Real CV.

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otakimeee

I see how you mean that they packaged it into a new singlular game; a strange coincidence i chose that as the example then. But I get how the bundle CVs are counted now. That's a lot of explanation. Thanks a lot Sundance!

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Sundance85

No problem ;) Yea, all those Steam rules are really getting out of hand. My very first reply was only partly correct until I realized that custom generated Bundles are different because they can't be gifted and thus there's no need to add them to the Bundle list, and edited it out. If Valve keeps adding new features to further complicate things they'll have to add a Master (and Bachelor) of Steam economy badge :D

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