Hey there,

Just a fair warning and a heads up that my account was compromised on the 30-31.12.2022. It all started when I got a request to vote for a RUST server and had to log in via Steam. This request came from a person I was friends with and all the conversation as you can see below, seemed normal at first glance.

The whole hijack happened during that time until later on the 31st when I got a warning message from Steam about it. I wasn't aware that the scammer messaged over 20-30 people from my friend list, asking them to fall into the same trap. After sending them the message, the scammer has blocked all communications; in some cases, they even blocked the account. Because of that, some people got really upset about that and probably even reported my account for scamming.

I NEVER played RUST and I would NEVER do these kinds of things to anybody. So, despite not being the one directing all these messages to everybody, I feel responsible to reach out and message everybody about these scams that came through my account because it was my fault for not paying attention.

I know two people are extremely upset because of it and even if other Steamgifts or friends have contacted them, they don't believe it, so in hopes, they see this discussion maybe understand, and listen that it wasn't intentional and I would never do such a thing.

Update 1: I have recovered my account, but the scammer stole my entire Steam Cards inventory. Trying to see if I can get it back or at least the value of those cards.

Update 2: Found out who hijacked my account and stole my entire inventory. I pretty much lost my entire steam collection and I had over 500+ pcs. I do suspect his account is linked with another that has 1000+ hours on Steam of RUST, which is very suspicious. Reported both of them to be investigated, but I don't know if I'd ever recover the money from the steam cards and other items or the cards itself.

Thank you and stay safe out there and Happy New Year!

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first thing is to NOT Blame the person who sent you the message - they to might have had their account hacked

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Definitely not blaming them. I believe it was the same hijacker that took over my account. I hope that didn't go across wrong. Just tried to share what happened.

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1st rule of steam, don't click NEVER the links in chat, even it's a your friend

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Normally I would know best, but this time the guy spoke with me like a normal person, so I didn't see much harm into it at the time. I should have known better. 😓

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i fell to a scam like this once - how is your account now?

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I'm trying to reach to everybody the scammer messaged and tell them it wasn't me. I managed to let them know, but man it was a hassle. I lost a few people from the incident because they really thought I was the one who tried to scam them. 😣

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Clicking links is largely fine (though yes, you should obviously check the full URL first, most bullshit links are easy to identify) as long as your Antivirus is halfway decent.
The real problem is that most people falling for scams enter their login credentials on the webpage the scammer aks them to open.

That's where the actual number 1 most important rule on Steam comes into play: NEVER directly enter your login credentials into a site. Always go to Steam's homepage first and make sure you are logged in, then use your login token to sign into any third-party pages (since your token doesn't contain any info anyone could use to steal your account).
If a page is asking you to enter anything despite you having a login token already, it's 100% a scam.
Approximately 95%+ of all account thefts could be prevented if people followed that rule.

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Clicking links is largely fine (though yes, you should obviously check the full URL first, most bullshit links are easy to identify) as long as your Antivirus is halfway decent.
The real problem is that most people falling for scams enter their login credentials on the webpage the scammer aks them to open.

It's what I did and gave access to the hijacker.

That's where the actual number 1 most important rule on Steam comes into play: NEVER directly enter your login credentials into a site. Always go to Steam's homepage first and make sure you are logged in, then use your login token to sign into any third-party pages (since your token doesn't contain any info anyone could use to steal your account).

I will remember to do that in the future. I appreciate the suggestion.

If a page is asking you to enter anything despite you having a login token already, it's 100% a scam.
Approximately 95%+ of all account thefts could be prevented if people followed that rule.

Very true. I thought my account wasn't logged in via browser, so I assumed that I just have to log in anyway.

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To clarify, go to
https://steampowered.com/
with your default web browser and login, that way any subsequent legit pages/links wont ask for your login credentials. If a page asks for your credentials with you logged into the steam webpage, they are not legit.

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Part of your comment is false. I used to think that way as well but...
Apparently your Cookie (session) can be stolen upon logging using your Steam account. I mean using the "token" aka being previously logged in on official website.
I am pretty well informed and experienced on this type of scam and I can assure you that it's still dangerous to log in using Steam to unknown websites. So a warning and a friendly tip from me: NEVER log in to any unknown websites, no matter if you gotta enter your password or just confirm the log in.
And while I am also aware hijacking a Cookie is definitely not as big as normal phising shit where the thief gets access to your whole account but with the Cookie access it's apparently possible to redirect all trades to different account, deny and accept all Steam trades, redirect other shit, get access to all sites that use Steam login thing, change many other things and who knows what else. Also a really dangerous thing. And yes, you can lose your items and wallet as well :(

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I've heard that a couple times over the years, but always accompanied by words like "apparently" and "supposedly".

Steam login tokens aren't as simple as a plaintext cookie that you can just put into your own cookies and then you're logged into someone else's account. Nor are they even remotely easy to "steal", since you'd have to completely emulate not just the look, but also the underlying API of a Steam login page (with the whole infrastructure attached) to even get a browser to send you that token properly.

If a guy could do all of that, he wouldn't be wasting his time phishing for random users by messaging them links (which only leaves obvious and recordable traces of what he's doing and from where he's doing it), he'd sift through Steam user info databases and go after "lucrative" targets directly (if he'd even bother stealing Steam accounts anyway...if you're that good, you can probably get your ill-gotten gains elsewhere easier).

I'm not ruling it out obviously, but I haven't seen a confirmed and well documented case happen yet.

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Actually, the first rule is to read URLs. All this happened because people these days don't read URLs...

And people don't read URL because everything is made to discourage them from doing so: browsers hiding URLs by default, Google browser integration encouraging you to always search instead of typing (a few letters of) URLs, Steam putting up excessive annoying warnings that noone reads because it's too damn annoying, Youtube just banning all URLs in comments, etc.

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Actually, even reading url has its limits. In this case, i doubt vasharal knows what an actual rust server voting website is (if thats even a thing). The best option is to do what xFallenAngel said: open steam in a new tab, check if you are logged in, and if it says that you are logged in but the website that you clicked still ask for a login, then it's a scam.

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Actually, even reading url has its limits. In this case, i doubt vasharal knows what an actual rust server voting website is (if thats even a thing).

Actually, I don't. I never played RUST and I only thought it required my Steam account to validate my vote as an authentic Steam account. That's where the trick got me. I never played such a game and I doubt I ever will.

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even reading url has its limits

True, punycode must be enabled (because stupid browser vendors decided not to enable it by default).
Example: https://www.xn--80ak6aa92e.com/ (if your browser shows it looking like apple.com, its configuration is bad)

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Firefox shows it as apple.com. How do I fix that?

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about:config => network.IDN_show_punycode = true

Shame on them for not fixing that, years after it was first reported :/ They must be too busy copying Chrome's flaws.

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Yeah, Chrome doesn't show it as Apple and I never messed with a punycode option.

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So I should change it to true?
I'm on firefox and it's on false. But it doesn't show apple.com it show something like xn--80..., maybe it's because of an add-onn I have?

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it's the same to me tbh. not sure what changes it, hahah.
if it's not showing as apple.com, you should keep it as it is.

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Do you guys mean the link as is shown on this page or the URL as is shown when you actually follow the link? I wrote the link in punycode for the sake of clarity, what matters is what it becomes once you open it.
In case you wonder what this page is, it's just a very short text from a security researcher saying "I told you so, my full article is here https://www.xudongz.com/blog/2017/idn-phishing/"

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oooh, i thought it was the text shown in this page. it's apple.com once i opened it, so i guess i have to change it to true now. thanks for the info!

edit: and now it worked properly :)

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Thank you. It's surprising they don't fix something like that. It would be so easy to trick someone into visiting a malicious site. No wonder Firefox is trailing behind Chrome.

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Tbh, I don't think it's the reason Fx is trailing behind at all, because most people are just unaware or don't care. But yup, bad choices like that (pretty sure I saw this discussed in a ticket at the time) don't really help either. Particularly when, in the name of security, they remove awesome features that used to make Fx so great (like when they killed the Tamper Data add-on).
They do security when it ruins the user experience and brings questionable improvements, yet they don't do security when it would come at absolutely zero cost (here it would just consist in changing a default value for a setting that's already implemented). Way to go :/

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It's not just this but they keep ruining the browser. They constantly make Fx less and less customizable, killing off addons, when this was one of the main reasons ppl use Fx. They take forever to fix things, if at all. I've been using Fx since early 2000s but I think it may soon be time to ditch it. The only reason I don't use Chrome exclusively even though it's way faster than Fx is because I don't want to have to search for Chrome replacements for all my Fx addons plus Chrome still doesn't have an official portable version.

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All the same here :/ Except the core reasons I don't use Chrome at all is 1) Google and 2) no SOCKS proxy support (and also, despite Mozilla doing all they can to ruin Firefox indeed, it's still not as bad as Chrome customization-wise).

As far as performances go, it's a bit tough to judge. The whole internet now is optimized for Chrome because devs are lazy, so it's a bit of a chicken vs egg problem. Mozilla is constantly running after the de-facto "standards" set by Google (who can do so because of Chrome/Blink's crushing market share). The amount of add-ons plays a part too, I notice that on a new install or profile, Firefox runs much faster than on my usual profile, which I kind of stuffed full of plugins :D

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I was always wondering why those scam emails in my spam tend to have weird looking characters, so this is why! I didnt know punycode was a thing, hahah. Thanks for letting me know about it!

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Thank you so much! I randomly read this discussion and used your tip. Feel safer now haha. :P

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Apparently Even if the site uses REAL Steam API to log in it might still hijack your Cookie and then get access to many features on your own account. So NEVER log in to any weird site even through real Steam site. I've got tons of experience in this so I know such things happen and that it's dangerous even to log in using Steam (and of course while being logged in before and only confirmed the log in via 1 button).

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How they could hijack my account with my cookie when I use Steam API login? I've been using Steam login as a safe way when it's available instead of using my e-mail or social media accounts.

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I'm also wondering about this. Shouldnt a cookie only be accessible by the website that creates it? And steam api doesnt give your credentials afaik - it only gives access to basic things such as profile name and picture.

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I don't know but I know it is possible. Not really to hijack whole account but at least some control over it. Such a thing won't allow scammers to steal items but they might be able to do many other things. But I know for sure they would be able to redirect trades etc.
Refer to "Steam API scam" for more information.

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I think i know what you are talking about, but i am only aware of it happening in trades (which they can only cancel and resend with a mule with the same name and picture, but different level and registration date). Steam shouldnt give access to that in the first place...

Anyway, they arent really hijacking your account since they have some limitations on it, but i understand that they can try to trick you that leads to the actual hijacking with that.

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I had never heard of a scam like this before. It was something I wasn't familiar it's possible at the time, but I guess I was wrong. The scammer that used my friends account acted normal, so I didn't suspect anything wrong from him. I thought it's just a vote and that's it. My guard was down sadly.

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Funny that Google changed how URLs are shown exactly to "protec the user". After year or so of experiment they gathered data that hiding URL doesn't help protect users, so they dropped it.
People are not used to look on URL at all, it will not matter to them if address is written as steamgiffs.com/discussion/abcdef or steamgiffs.com. And as you mentioned it's Google that started it, as they wanted to funnel users into their search engine. So they discouraged people from using and understanding URLs in favor of typing "google search" into chrome address bar to get main page of google search engine.

Steam is not better. Introduced big warnings on URLs to cover their back when everyone knows people treat it as annoying distraction and ignore. Say "don't log in on websites you don't trust". I didn't see them mentioning this simple trick with "search for steam.community, log in there and refresh page you were supposed to log in. If it stays logged out it means it's scam" anywhere. It would cost them close to nothing to make short video for new users how log in token work, and attach it to their FAQ as a part of basic IT literacy "guide".

Everyone just assumes people know how PCs work which may be true for older generation that were using PCs. But with young people not so much. They may be using tablets from age 5 like a pro and browse internet, post TikToks and watch stuff on yt. But are unable to do any actual troubleshooting as their knowledge is really basic and "it just works" driven.

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After year or so of experiment they gathered data that hiding URL doesn't help protect users, so they dropped it.

Yup, dataism. It's obvious that hiding information from the end user won't increase security, but we only believe in Holy Data so we'll hide this information anyway for a year to collect Holy Data about it, then the Data God will speak and we'll be able to make a decision that cannot be questioned. 🙄 Meanwhile, a year was lost and victims were made.

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I ALMOST fell for this once...
What saved me was a good habit of not logging in on different sites than steam itself. Open new tab and check if you are legged in. If not then log in on steam site directly. Then refresh that other tab.
If you are logged in, but other tab is still asking for logging-in - It's a scam.

Also don't get fooled that site looks like the real deal - that's the idea behind this whole scam. And it's not limited to steam. If you are not careful - you can end up logging in on the site that looks exactly like your baking site for example xD And that would bring more harm than hijacking steam account xD

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What saved me was a good habit of not logging in on different sites than steam itself. Open new tab and check if you are legged in. If not then log in on steam site directly. Then refresh that other tab.
If you are logged in, but other tab is still asking for logging-in - It's a scam.

I'll remember to do that. I appreciate the suggestion.

Also don't get fooled that site looks like the real deal - that's the idea behind this whole scam. And it's not limited to steam. If you are not careful - you can end up logging in on the site that looks exactly like your baking site for example xD And that would bring more harm than hijacking steam account xD

Very true. The website log-in looked exactly like a Steam one.

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Yes it is good advice to everyone and I do the same. But sometime I have such situations that I am logged to steam and the other page still asking as I would not be logged (not sure why, probably it is because you are logged too long an it will expire soon). In such situations I log out and log in again to the official stream page and then if it is not a scam you can log in to the other site without entering login and password.

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In case you dont know, steam store (store.steampowered.com) and steamcommunity (steamcommunity.com) have different tokens, so you might have to login twice if you are logged out from both.

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Thanks for the suggestions from both of you.

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What saved me was a good habit of not logging in on different sites than steam itself. Open new tab and check if you are legged in. If not then log in on steam site directly. Then refresh that other tab.
If you are logged in, but other tab is still asking for logging-in - It's a scam.

I avoided been scammed because of that

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baking site

I hate when people steal my cookie recipes.. D:

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Imagine being famous cookie influencer. Then somebody steals your account and publishes recipe for poisonous cookies x_x
Millions might die.

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That's the absolute worst.

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Best of luck with this and hope you get your account back soon. Cheers for raising awareness to let people know about this. Its happened to other people on steam and i usually report people and block them temporarily to prevent getting more spam from them. Hope your friends come back to you over time. Have you actually got your account back yet?

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I have... just that I am restricted to trade on Steam. Which is alright. I wasn't planning to do it anyway.

I did ask some of the other Steamgifts friends that are on my friend list to contact them, but two of them don't believe me and were upset because of it. I have no way to prove my innocence without talking to them, so I can to write here in hopes that they see what exactly happened and maybe unban me.

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Glad you got the account back which is the most important thing. Its a shame about the cards lost and steam generally not replacing them. I have known and seen quite a few people on my friends list sent me requests in the past for voting for csgo and other games and anyone asking me to do this puts me on red alert straight away even if i have known them for years. Its why they always spam the friends list when they send this kind of message that causes you to let you guard down and these hijackers prey on this. I hope that your friends see this discussion thread and unban you and i hope the rest of 2023 goes smoothly without further such hassles. All the best mate!.

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One of them did and was from Steamgifts. So I am happy I managed to explain it to him. I one for sure will be more careful about random messages followed by links from now on. Sucks to learn lessons this way, but it is what it is.

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HijaCked.

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Corrected. I hope the rest is correct. Thanks!

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Yes it is, good luck!

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Thanks man!

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I had been there before, I hope you can recovery your account back.

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Recovered it, but my entire inventory of steam cards is lost. The guy send it to an account.

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Yeah, I also lost all my inventory, gifts, and other stuff as well. Suck this hack still happens.

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You never got it back, right?

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Yep, never got it back.

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I'm sorry dude 😥

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That's fine, no worries, and no need to be sorry. Its part of the life, this kinda stuff really happens a lot haha.
I hope you can recover as soon as possible.

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I doubt the items, but everything else for sure.

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Good luck!

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Don't you save passwords in your browser? If site doesn't show your saved credentials, then its 100% not THE site.
And this is why openID exists - to protect you from such a scam. If you logged in Steam in current browser but site asks you to input password again... In what century you live bro? xD

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Don't you save passwords in your browser? If site doesn't show your saved credentials, then its 100% not THE site.

I've recently reinstalled my windows and lost all my stuff there, including being logged in on Steam. I assumed I didn't log in via Steam so I did it then, but I was very wrong.

In what century you live bro? xD

It was more a negligence of mine rather the century I am from. I should have known better at the time. I didn't expect it being tricked into it because I knew that person. Just raising awareness about it.

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Don't you save passwords in your browser?

I hope he doesn't, because they're extremely easy to stole. And I hope you don't either. If you do, delete them all and disable that feature right now. Use a proper password manager.

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If you run virus.exe then nothing can save you. Every even a little important service has additional e-mail, mobile number or app authentification to feel yourself safe enough to keep passwords nearby

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The classic scam. How did you even fall for that? At least steam locked your account.

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I only thought he wanted a vote and since RUST is on Steam, I expected I just needed to log in and vote so that my vote counts as a human one and not something like a bot. The website login request was an exact image of Steam and didn't think much of it. The guy didn't seem like a bot when I spoke with him, so I didn't expect it. 😥

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I got scammed by an impersonator about a year ago, as a result of being exhausted, in a hurry, and ignoring my gut feeling of something being off - despite knowing about them for years.

It happens, they go for the newbies and the inattentive/unlucky people. The more we talk about it, the more people will recognize the scam by some bad vibes, passive knowledge can matter a lot :)

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I can also suggest enable your mobile phone for second factor authentication. So even if they get your password, they can't log in since they do not have access to your phone.

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The problem was I had it on and logged in via their website which made me not realize it it was a scam. I thought I wasn't logged in via browser and that's how I handed my account to them like a dumbass.

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so you entered your password and also entered your second factor authentication code on the same (malicious) site as well?

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Yep. The website looked identically like a Steam login website.

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wow they really put some effort in that phishing site

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Yeah and apparently it's probably not the only way to trick people into it.

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Seems like a pretty standard phishing site.

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Better remove those profile links, since calling out is forbidden (even if it would protect others from being scammed).

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I see. Okay and thanks for that suggestion.

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I'm sorry for what happened. Hopefully there arent many items that were stolen.
If you havent do it already, i suggest you to change your password (including other sites if you reuse it in other places) to prevent another incident.

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I'm sorry for what happened. Hopefully there arent many items that were stolen.

Actually, he stole everything I had. Over 500+ Steam Cards.

If you havent do it already, i suggest you to change your password (including other sites if you reuse it in other places) to prevent another incident.

I secured my account and got it back. But still, had to contact friends, let them know it wasn't me and make sure they didn't get scammed either.

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Aw, that's a lot. Again, i'm sorry to hear that. I already tried to report the mule account, but i'm not sure if steam is gonna act on that.

I guess it is safe to say that all requests from friends asking to vote for a game is a scam at this point. They keep on changing the game name!

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Yeah... well without hearing of such methods nobody would be aware of it and more people would get tricked into it. I don't want that and especially not coming from my account.

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Steam rule #1: don’t login using steam to random unknown websites

Unlucky, but at least you were able to recover it

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Yes, currently trying to get my inventory back or at least the value stolen from it. Luckily most my friends that got contacted by the scammer didn't steal from them, so that's safe to say they are safe.

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Login using steam is absolutely safe, but you should never enter actual steam credentials in any "popup windows". When you enter using steam there should be one button "Sign In". If that's the case - you're safe. If site says "you are not logged in, please enter login and password" - DON'T do it. Open new tab, open steam there. If you are still logged in there - that site was a scam, close it and never go back. If you are not logged in in steam indeed - then login on that new page that you opened manually, then return to the tab with said site, and try to login using steam again - it should show single green button "Sign In". If it still requires login and password - well again, it's a scam site, and close it.

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Sorry to hear about your troubles Vasharal, and at such timing too...
I wonder if Steam support will do anything to get your items back, but I wouldn't hold out hope. At least you got the most important thing back: your account!

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Yeah. Well, I wish there was a possibility. I mean I can trace all my belonging to one account and that has a friend that plays RUST. It's their only friend, so unless that's the culprit I don't know really what it is. The account it was gifted is a Level 0, so it's definitely a puppet account.

In the end, I am paying for my mistake, but I want to warn others to be careful to not make the same mistake as I did.

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Indeed, it is good to remind others. It is a problem with scamming: that victims are too ashamed to share what happened to them. And thus the cycle perpetuates because people don't know what to look out for.
I can see it in this thread too, people trying to shame you. Thankfully it's just a minority and most are giving helpful tips and well meaning words.

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I'd never do that. As embarrassing as it is to get tricked, I like to admit I learn from my mistakes and wanna use my example to remind others to not be as foolish as I was to believe it.

I've never had a problem in my 11-12 years of Steam until today. I never doubted I am invincible, but I sure was dumb enough to fell for it. 😅

Taking an L is part of life and sometimes we have to accept defeat and learn from the lesson.

I can see it in this thread too, people trying to shame you. Thankfully it's just a minority and most are giving helpful tips and well meaning words.

I really don't care if they wanna shame me or not. This warning isn't for them and I am not sharing my misery to make other people's day. I just do it because I feel it's the right thing to do and how one should look at things.

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That's a good way of looking at it! 👍

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Here's hoping that your experiences will save others from falling into the same traps. Hope things work out with your friends too, especially if they also were hijacked in the first place.

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I'd feel even worst if it did. 😓 Apparently, I was the only serious victim of theft and sending mass messages to others.

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Thanks for the heads-up, thankfully you got your account back, but I'm curious how was he/she able to get your cards? He sold them and transferred the funds somehow afterwards?

Why did you have some many cards around anyway? :-P (no offense, but 500 seems a LOT). Hoping that value would go up? Collecting for collecting is fair enough ofc :)

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Thanks for the heads-up, thankfully you got your account back, but I'm curious how was he/she able to get your cards? He sold them and transferred the funds somehow afterwards?

He sent them to a puppet account by the looks of it. Once he was on my account he messaged others, then blocked them or blocked communication and took everything from my account and sent it there. I have all info on which account and the fact that that account has 1 friend that played RUST for over 1000 hours with a VAC BAN. So that's what I kinda linked up the two.

Why did you have some many cards around anyway?

Farmed them to resell and build badges so I can level it up mainly.

(no offense, but 500 seems a LOT)

Non taken. I had over 2000 in the past that I've sold and made over £30-80 off of it. Traded over 1000 with someone in the past that I wanted to help and was left to about 500 that was well... stollen from me.

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I wasn't aware that you could transfer/send that many in such a short time, but then again, what's stopping you?

You're level 85... A small detail that escaped me ;)

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I wasn't aware that you could transfer/send that many in such a short time, but then again, what's stopping you?

The guy gifted while I wasn't aware my Steam Guard was out. I would have needed to confirm it, but didn't notice it at the time. I was very foolish to ignore the sudden error when logging in to their website.

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Couldn't he in theory have set up the Steam Guard on another device/phone once he had control of your account?

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He did and I wasn't warned via mail by Steam that my Steam Guard was transferred. That should have been the case, but I don't know if an option like that exists and why Steam never implemented it. Practically the whole hijacked happened under my eyes. I wasn't even aware he got in. I didn't get any warning my Steam Guard was changed, nothing... 🤷🏻‍♂️

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I'm sorry for what happened to you, man, that sucks... on 31 Dec at that...
Thanks for sharing your story with us, so that it became a reminder for us to stay vigilant.
And don't forget to change your password, and in case you got the same password for another account, change that too.
Glad you got your account back

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I'm sorry for what happened to you, man, that sucks... on 31 Dec at that...

Overall 2022 was a really bad year for me. A lot of personal problems happened. So I don't really know what's up with that.

Thanks for sharing your story with us, so that it became a reminder for us to stay vigilant.

Your welcome. I may never be able to recover my items back though as it seems to in the Steam Guidelines.

And don't forget to change your password, and in case you got the same password for another account, change that too.

That I did. I don't have other accounts.

Glad you got your account back

Thank you, although my items are all gone. 😥

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I'm old school and never went the 2FA via smartphone route Steam suggests. Always asked myself how this would be a safer alternative. Thus every trade is on hold for 14 days and nobody can get my items at a moments notice making any mistake irrecoverable.

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There's no way to get the items once they are given away even if it was stolen according to Steam Guidelines. At this point, I wish I would have sold or done something with all those cards.

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The security comes from the fact that bad guys need two things: your password and your 2FA code. Both are on separate devices: your PC and your phone. So if one is compromised, the other hopefully is not.

There are many ways for your password to be compromised: if you re-use the same password for multiple accounts and there is a data leak elsewhere. If malware gets on your PC and all your stored passwords are stolen. And so on.

This does not protect the user from himself however, as is the case here with phishing: by tricking the user into giving them both.
If you need to give your 2FA code, you need to be thinking very critically of what you are doing. Normally you don't need to enter your 2FA code on day to day use as your computer should be remembered after the first time logging in.

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Yeah, yeah I know what 2FA is. My point is the fact that 75,000 Steam users fall victim to phishing attacks each month. By using 2FA each transaction is executed immediately and irrevocably while I have 14 days giving me ample time to think twice about my actions, recover my account and cancel suspicious trades.

Safe from a pure IT perspective =/= safe for the average user

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+1, 2FA is presented as a golden bullet while I see it rather as a very, VERY double edged sword.

Notably because if you lose it, good luck getting access back, and if you have it hacked/hijacked, good luck convincing the service that it wasn't you doing stuff in your account.

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This happened last year with some of us, but with CSGO vote link.
Fortunately couldn't grab anything from account and couldn't make any damage

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That's good. He was doing all this while I was not paying attention. At the time of the warning, I was even working on a project that was important to be finished and launched on 1st. I stopped at once to assess the damage. Little did I know he cleaned my inventory too. I thought he only collected people's data. I just found out my account was affected today, after I reached out to everybody the scammer contacted through my account.

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I'm almost always online.
Immediately got comments on my profile from friends that my account might been hacked or something.
Then I wrote to my activity feed to warn others + modified my name to alert + wrote few PM..
Had around 250 friends at that time, it would be insane to wrote to everyone.
Took around an hour to stop the spread.

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I've got 220+ friends. I'm very sure 20-30 people I've manually messaged to apologize and let them know about what happened. Two of which are from Steamgifts apparently got really upset on me and blocked me when the scammer messaged them.

I tried to ask a few other friends to contact them and apologize for me, but they didn't wanna believe me. Part of why I make the whole statement is maybe to reach out to them as well and tell them what exactly happened.

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This happen to me 2 years ago, with CSGO vote link.(a friend of me was hacked)
Fortunately couldn't grab anything from account thank to 2FA, and get my account back 3 hours later.

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I got my account back quickly too, but did you lose anything? Items and steam cards?

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Nope, thanks to steam guard and 2FA.

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I see. Good to know! 😮

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Man, sorry this happened to you. What a way to end the year!
I hope you get your cards back.

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According to Steam Restoration Item Policy, it doesn't seem possible unless Valve goes the extra mile to do it.

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Just want to say, so sorry this all happened, but at least I am happy you got back control of your account, even if items are lost. :( :( :(

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Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it and stay safe out there!

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Sorry to hear that it happened to you, I wish you get the card value back if steam can help with that. Hope you have a better luck this year. :)

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I am optimistic it's gonna be a better year for me. I've lost what I've had to lose. It's time to gain back and maybe more. Despite the incident, I am feeling alright. I'll try to not let it bum me down.

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Well, this is very old phishing method. You probably won't get your items back, afaik steam support do not return items. It's sad that people still fall for it, but honestly, steam is guilty too - if they did not request 2fa code on each login, and only when logging in from new device - that would at least alert people who enter their credentials on phishing sites.

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Yeah, but I could never win a debate with them over that. I can't blame them but the scammers and myself for not paying attention and having my guard down. I wish it was as easy to just get the value in money from the cards lost, but I would probably ask for too much. It would be a nice gesture from Valve to be honest. I've been a loyal user and even if I sound now all entitled and stuff and I doubt I deserve that much, I do appreciate that they at least reestated my account back without further damage.

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I understandf how you think here - but look at it from the other side. If Valve allowed that, then how long do you think it would take before the scammers also created accounts to be ''scammed'' just to scam Valve out of refunds? That would almost immediately become an unteneble situation for Valve, they would bleed cash as scammers increased their illgotten winnings many times over.

Thats's a Pandoras Box they do not want to open....

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Yeah, I have read about the Steam Item Restoration Policy and I got well aware that getting them back, unless these items are still sitting in that person's account only is the only way to return them. But I doubt the scammer is as dumb to just keep them there.

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that would at least alert people who enter their credentials on phishing sites.

That's some wishful thinking.

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Not really. I'm far from thinking that it would solve all the problems for everyone. Of course no. But it will help at least to some number of people, and at the same time - will make it more convenient for everyone. Sadly it's really hard to explain this simple facts to Valve...

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Not the same thing, but I got a bit worried a few days ago when I noticed that in the activity feed from steam there was an entry that I...was now friends with another account...completely in asian letters.

My account is private, I don't have many friends in my list and I haven't gotten or accepted any friendrequest of him/her.
I might have sent a friendrequest to him/her a long long time ago because if this site because I had some people who didn't activate their wins after a longer waiting period.
But I'm not sure and I don't know if steam even "holds" requests that long.

Well I deleted him/her from my list and searched the preferences and the web on how to disable auto accept of a friendrequest on steam.
But I couldn't find such an option and I'm not sure if it even exists. Maybe I'm just very blind.

Nothing bad has happend (up to this day) but I'm still a bit confused about it.
I don't have anything worth stealing in my account anyway, maybe that was the reason :D

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Not the same thing, but I got a bit worried a few days ago when I noticed that in the activity feed from steam there was an entry that I...was now friends with another account...completely in asian letters.

My account is private, I don't have many friends in my list and I haven't gotten or accepted any friendrequest of him/her.
I might have sent a friendrequest to him/her a long long time ago because if this site because I had some people who didn't activate their wins after a longer waiting period.
But I'm not sure and I don't know if steam even "holds" requests that long.

Well I deleted him/her from my list and searched the preferences and the web on how to disable auto accept of a friendrequest on steam.
But I couldn't find such an option and I'm not sure if it even exists. Maybe I'm just very blind.

Nothing bad has happend (up to this day) but I'm still a bit confused about it.

I think friend requests last a long time, but I think being safe than sorry is the ideal thing to do. If you don't know the person or can't remember doing any changes, it's a good sign to change your password and reset your connected devices. This mistake was all on me, so I am well aware how big of a dumbass I am for not checking and trusting my friends.

I don't have anything worth stealing in my account anyway, maybe that was the reason :D

I did and I'm currently bashing my head why I never bothered to sell or trade them all when I had the chance. I kept them in hopes to build it up and then do a bulk sale. I've done that last year and made off of a chunk of my cards about £25 and during Winter Sales on Steam, I bought myself some nice games. This year, I didn't bother to do that, so I left my account easy for picking. I've been farming all year new cards, so I feel I worked it out for nothing.

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maybe someone changed nickname

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This. On of your previous friend most likely changed their name

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You don't have Steam Guard enabled via email or app?

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I have it via app. But it asked me for a code. It failed to connect so, if you saw in my second message, I told him that the browser might be the issue or something. I didn't bother to check that my Steam guard on my phone was removed and I couldn't use it anymore. No e-mail notifications to let me know sudden changes were made, and no password changes... No notifications I was gifting the scammer... nothing.

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Just FYI: it's all done automatically, via bot or something. Basically the site you provided your Steam credenials on (and after also guard code) didn't do anything else besides entering them on a real Steam site to access your account (so instead of you logging into your account somewhere it was that bot doing that on a real site). Then, most likely, whole theft process is done automatically by a script as well. All your items/wallet/whatever get sent to a middleman account which obviously belongs to the real scammer.
This is probably a big automatic system that sends phising links/infected links to many users and then these hijacked users also send more and more of these links... And scammers get tons of money automatically with little to no effort.

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Just FYI: it's all done automatically, via bot or something. Basically the site you provided your Steam credenials on (and after also guard code) didn't do anything else besides entering them on a real Steam site to access your account (so instead of you logging into your account somewhere it was that bot doing that on a real site).

Like mirroring my action... It's interesting how a fake website like that can still trigger the Steam Guard and ask it for a code.

All your items/wallet/whatever get sent to a middleman account which obviously belongs to the real scammer.
This is probably a big automatic system that sends phising links/infected links to many users and then these hijacked users also send more and more of these links... And scammers get tons of money automatically with little to no effort.

Exactly and Valve apparently doesn't do much to punish some accounts. I've heard people sharing their story in private where their whole scam happened during a whole picture and video recording and the scammer's account is still active today and scamming other people.

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