Hello friends,

Here's a question for you: What's your Desktop/Laptop Specs right now? Where do you want to be in the near future and how much would it cost you for an upgrade?

📉 My Old Dekstop PC Specs are:

  • CPU: i5-7600K CPU @ 3.80GHz
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z270XP-SLI-CF
  • RAM: 16 GB RAM
  • GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
  • Storage: 1 TB HDD & 1 TB SSD

📈 My New Dekstop PC Specs Upgrades are:

  • CPU: Intel Core i7-12700K 3.60GHz (Alder Lake) Socket LGA1700
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 UD DDR4 - Intel Z690 DDR4 ATX Motherboard
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit

💸 I wanna get in the next coming months:

  • GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 Gaming OC V2 LHR 10GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card [Bought]
  • PSU: Cooler Master MWE 750 Gold V2 Fully Modular PSU [Bought]

💷 Costs:

The prices listed and subject to change due to constant changes of the market. So don't take them for granted.

  • CPU: £316.66 ($422.30/€376.24)
  • MOBO: £154.16 ($205.60/€183.17)
  • RAM: £54.16 ($72.23/€64.35)
  • GPU: ~£469 - £649 ($625.39 - $865.41/€557.16 - €771.07) (MSRP)

💵 SUB-TOTAL = £524.98 ($700.18/€623.88) (no GPU)

💶 TOTAL = £993.98 - £1,173.98 ($1,325.41 - $1,565.43 /€1,181.05 - €1,394.92)


UPDATE 23.01.2023: I finally got my hands on a GPU. I got an RTX 3080 and with it a PSU 750W otherwise the old PSU would risk affecting the new GPU. My setup is finally complete.
CPU: £768.59 ($951.18/€875.42)
PSU: £77.37 ($95.75/€88.13)


🌌 What do I plan to use it for?

Well, a couple of things:

  1. Gaming - Streaming & Recording.
  2. Editing Photo's & Video's & Rendering.
  3. Extended period of time - I don't expect upgrading any time soon after that, giving it to at least 8-10 years.
  4. Use it to play with software that allows me to create games as an experiment and to learn new things.

Since I've listened to your feedback in the comments, I want to thank everybody who has shared their views. That has helped me to change my components and go for alternative upgrades. Thank you for your support! 🙏🏻

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Do you want to upgrade your Desktop/Laptop?

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I want to, but I can't aford it yet
I want to, but I can't buy it anywhere
I got everything I need
I'm not focused on upgrading
I rather buy a Console (PS5 or XBOX Series X/S)
Just got my upgrade recently
I can only dream for a upgrade

i7-9700K 3.6 GHz
Nvidia RTX 2080
32 GB RAM
2x Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB
8TB Seagate external HDD for random storage

I put this together in 2018, and don't see myself needing to update any time soon. It has handled everything I've thrown at it so far without issue. I might not be able to play some of the newest, most graphic-intensive games at 4K Ultra 60fps, but my backlog is big enough that I probably won't even get around to playing anything like that before I'm ready to upgrade anyway.

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I am definitely not looking at playing everything on Ultra, but to have them in a stable run for the next years to come. I have always looked at ways to have an upgrade that lasts for 5-10 years from now. I do the same for my phones. I buy something good so it lasts longer.

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I have always looked for ways to keep things running as long as possible, although in the past that was mostly due to not having the money to do otherwise. My previous PC was an off-the-shelf HP Pavilion 700-074 that I had managed to just barely wedge a mini GTX 970 into (one of the connectors actually caused the sidewall of the case to bow out slightly 😂). It was actually still running quite well when I upgraded, and I originally planned to soldier on with it for a few more years. The main reason I replaced it when I did (after "only" 5 years) was because I found some very good deals on the new components AND was in a position where I could actually afford them.

And I'm glad I upgraded when I did! If I had stuck with my original plan, I would have been caught up in these shortages and crazy prices like so many others are right now. I probably couldn't afford to build something comparable to what I have now at today's prices.

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How much was the RTX 2080 when you bought it? Do you remember?

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I paid $770 (£570/€667) for the 2080 at the time, when it was still quite new to the market. A lot of money for me at the time, but a steal compared to what something comparable is going for now. Even used copies of the GPU I have are selling for about $300 more than what I bought it for.

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People are just getting more into this so they are willing to invest more. The pandemic didn't do us old gamers any justice.

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My actual PC (5-6 years) :

  • CPU: i5-7400 (with stock ventirad)
  • GPU: Nvidia GeForce 1050 2GB
  • RAM: 8 GB DDR4
  • HDD: 1TB Seagate

In the end on the year, I will buy :

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (with a watercooling: NZXT Kraken X53 240mm)
  • GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 GAMING OC 12G
  • MB: Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite
  • RAM: 2x8GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE PRO 3600 Mhz DDR4
  • HDD: 2TB Seagate + SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus MZ-V7S250BW (250GB)

With my actual PC, I can't launch games released in 2019-2021. A change is REALLY necessary

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For sure man, I wish you the best of luck. I think the greatest challenge will be the GPU.

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UPDATE:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (with a watercooling: NZXT Kraken X53 240mm)
GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3060 TI GAMING Z TRIO 8GB
MB: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2
RAM: 4x8GB CORSAIR VENGEANCE RS 3600 Mhz DDR4
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB + Kingston A2000 1TB

For a total of... 1300€ ! I think is fair for the actual market prices. For information, I ordered all my components in Germany.

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Hey, that was 2 months ago.

You've been lucky to get your hands on the RTX video card I guess. What method did you use to get it?

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I ordered in Germany on Agando.de which is one of the top 5 German sites :
CSL-computer.com
Memorypc.de
Agando.de
Dubaro.de
Kiebel.de
These sites are pc configurators where you can choose your own components so wanting a new pc, I made this choice. The CG comes back to me at its MSRP price ;)

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It's good when you can find some decent sites. I live in the UK, I could very well try to purchase from there too as I believe that Germany may have a big market too. Thanks for the websites, I'm thinking it may help other German folks around here!

2 years ago
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Nate needs a brand new PC

I'll keep the SSD and soundcard, the rest is just too old to try and upgrade but the way prices are right now, I'm going to wait a looong time before getting a new PC.

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Oh I'm with you. I don't have yet the whole budget to spend on building right away a whole PC. It would put a dent in my savings.

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Bought pieces between november 2020 and january 2021
CPU - Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard - ASUS TUF B550 Plus
CPU Cooler - Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4
RAM - 2 X 16 Go Crucial Ballistix 3200 Mhz, CL16
GPU - PNY 3070 RTX XLR8
SSD - NVMe Gigabyte Aorus Gen4 1 To
SSD - NVMe Crucial P5 500 Go
SSD - Sata Crucial MX 500 2 To
HDD - WD Blue 4 To
PSU - Seasonic Gold 1000 W
Case - Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL
Fans - Artic P14 X4 + Artic P12 X4
Hub - DeepCool
Monitor - Gigabyte G27Q IPS/27"/1440p

Upgrade : none soon. Maybe ryzen 5600X in few years before switching to DDR5

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You got the RTX 3070, which is going to carry you for years on, surely!

2 years ago
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CPU:i5 4590
MB:Gigabyte h61s2pv
GPU:MSI R9 280 4GB
RAM:16GB DDR3
3TB HDD
its old but its all i got and i dont think i can afford any upgrades because of the prices in my country

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I can imagine that Iran's economy may struggle with the International prices for the components. I've been there and even today, as I live in the UK, paying for a new rig a couple of hundreds, if not thousands of pounds is a lot. I am lucky that my wife is happy to help me with it as I've upgraded hers to a beast of a PC.

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glad that you made it out!i hope that one day ill leave this place too
yea right now my gpu fans are not working properly and r9 series are famous for getting hot too much.i cant afford fans too 😂 but i used some regular fans to cool it down😂😂😂😂

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You gotta send a picture man! That's hilarious! 🤣

What's your PC's temperature right now?

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i used bathroom Fan Ventilation before this but it was too loud 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂thats hilarious
normal temp is 95C when playing video games but now it gets 100C then the pc turns off automatically for safety.but for now its something between 94 to 97
i dont need heater in my room when my pc is on😂😂😂

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So according to some information online:

During General Usage, your CPU Temperature can have any value between 30-65 °C.

But with Extended Gaming and Heavy Usage, the temperature can easily reach a range of 65-90 °C.

You may need to be a little careful with it.

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Yea but my graphic card"s normal temperature is 95
Its R9 280 i have searched online before everyone says that its normal
But ill add more fans in future 🤣🤣🤣🤣i have an extra PSU for the fans😂

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Maybe for the GPU, but the CPU isn't going to be happy. 🤣

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My cpu is fine it has a big heatsink 😁

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Stressing it to the limit I see. 😅

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😂😂

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My PC:

  • CPU: Intel i5 4670 @ 3.4GHz (stock)
  • GPU: Geforce 1060 6GB
  • RAM: 32GB DDR3 1600MHz
  • SSD: SATA based Samsung 512GB

What I'd like to get sometime next year:

  • CPU: Ryzen 12 core / 24 thread with V-Cache (6900X?)
  • GPU: Geforce 3060 12GB
  • RAM: 64GB DDR4 CL16 3200MHz (or better)
  • SSD: WD_BLACK SN850 at 1TB or 2TB

The main reason I want so much RAM is because I'd like to mess with Unreal Engine 5, and that's the recommended amount (same with the number of CPU cores).
The GPU is going to be the real killer price wise, since even though it's currently the lowest end card in the 3000 series, it still goes for $700-900 online. It might be possible to get it for a more reasonable price in a pre-built, but even that looks like it'll be a challenge. The rest of the parts mentioned, along with a new PSU and MOBO I can probably get for about $1500.

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The main reason I want so much RAM is because I'd like to mess with Unreal Engine 5, and that's the recommended amount (same with the number of CPU cores).

Oh me too! My PC struggled with my 16 GB RAM and I thought that might have been my entire PC. I had no idea that RAM was also important.

The GPU is going to be the real killer price wise, since even though it's currently the lowest end card in the 3000 series, it still goes for $700-900 online. It might be possible to get it for a more reasonable price in a pre-built, but even that looks like it'll be a challenge. The rest of the parts mentioned, along with a new PSU and MOBO I can probably get for about $1500.

While prices will still stay up my main issue was accruing it. My wife's video card died about 4-5 months ago, she had a GTX 970. It was a big battle on accruing video cards and what I did I had an program that detected any stock changes on websites and would send me a message, e-mail and app notification that there's some changes on the page.

Luckily after I ran the bot/tool I got to find a stock in the next 4 hours and bought it straight off from a US Website, called NewEgg. It took a couple of days to deliver it to UK. If I remember, we paid about £750 for everything (transport) to just get it. But now she is happily using her RTX 3070.

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so got a pc, a laptop and a xbox series s

pc
cpu: ryzen 5 2600x -> wanted to change it for an 5800x if it hits around 250-300€ max
mb: MSI X470 Gaming Pro
gpu :asus gtx 1650 lp ... got it for 100€ from a friend -> 6800 ... i was stunned how energy efficent that card was for "580€" and well ... it goes for stupid money that you can buy an 6900xt or a 3080ti for that price ... bullshit
ram: crucial ballistx 2x8 3200 ... got it from a friend for 40€ this year, he had oc it to 3466 16-18-18-36 and doesnt want to finetune the timings, happy for the price and more than 3200 on zen+ isn't garanteed to work
cpu cooler: arctic liquid freezer II 240 ... got it for 60€ and well ... it never exeeds 60 degrees on max load (~140W max)
ssd: 2x WD SN750 500gb and 1tb: great ssd for the price ... also a runner up for cheap ssd is the kioxia exercia 1tb for around 80€. dont look on the marketing sheets, this ssd will work for most users just fine :D
psu - Seasonic Focus GX 650 (thats why i don't consider any 3090/3080 gpu ... those pull too much and the 8gb on the 3070 are in my eyes too less vram, it should have at least 12gb)
hdd - generic samsung hdd 700gb from 2007 ... it still amazes me that this thing runs for more than a decade and a laptop seagate 1tb
Case - be quiet 500dx because i got it for 60€ (normal price is around 85-90€) ... i planned to buy a fractal meshify 2 because i really like the concept of the case + it got a steel panel option.
monitor - Gigabyte M27Q ... great overall monitor ... this year are 1440p around a price point at 250€ ... sub 200€ and we will likely see a shift from 1080p

laptop - lenovo ideapad gaming 3
cpu: ryzen 5 4600h
gpu: gtx 1650 mobile (the funny thing is, that it has more cores and gddr6 ... it could be faster than the desktop variant in some scenarios)
ram: 2x8 3200 cl22
panel: 1080p 60 fps
ssd: sk hynix oem 2242 ... atleast it has cache and tlc

as i stated, i bought an series s for 260€. i can use the controller for everything above and it is a really great emulation box for the price (bought dev tools)

if you take an 10850k then please, heavy invest in cooling, this thing can fry eggs without proper cooling or set in the bios the powerlimit on "stock cooler" for the real 125w limit
... id go for a ryzen 9 5900x and depends how many pcie 4 devices you would use b550 (dunno if you only consider asus but their would be the b550-f gaming) or x570 (a board like a x570s tomahawk max) dont know which case or cooler you have (case compatibility, height from ram modules, clearance) it is tricky to get a good recommendation, arctic liquid freezer II 240 would be more then enough for ryzen. (a friend of mine has it on his 5950x) ... some off the bigger air cooler (dark rock pro 4, one of the machos, noctua nh d15, u12a or deepcool assassin 3 should do the job ... maybe the scythe fuma 2 could work) ... thats why for ram my go to for ram are crucial ballistix because of the low height.

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if you take an 10850k then please, heavy invest in cooling, this thing can fry eggs without proper cooling or set in the bios the powerlimit on "stock cooler" for the real 125w limit

I bought it for my wife, I have bought additional coolers, but didn't think about going for a water cooling, that might be a bit difficult for me to assemble. But thank you so much for the suggestion. I will make sure that I get additional fans for her as well. She has it for a couple months now and did not encounter issues luckily.

... id go for a ryzen 9 5900x and depends how many pcie 4 devices you would use b550 (dunno if you only consider asus but their would be the b550-f gaming)

Don't really have a problem, I actually only wanted to buy a mirror build of what my wife has.

(a board like a x570s tomahawk max) dont know which case or cooler you have

I've got a Tower Case, so it can store significant space inside. The biggest struggle was the massive CPU cooler I bought for my wife lol.

arctic liquid freezer II 240 would be more then enough for ryzen. (a friend of mine has it on his 5950x) ... some off the bigger air cooler (dark rock pro 4, one of the machos, noctua nh d15, u12a or deepcool assassin 3 should do the job ... maybe the scythe fuma 2 could work) ... thats why for ram my go to for ram are crucial ballistix because of the low height.

Thank you for all the suggestions, valuable info to know when buying the pieces of gear.

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well, i am interested how the 12 gen from intel will stack on the low end, today is the embargo lift and maybe the i7 could be from interest :D ... but most likely board and/or ram pricing will be expensive as hell ... and atleast for now it is mostly the 12900k tested ... to watercooling there are 3 things that are important in my eyes. pump should never be the heighest point of an aio, make shure you use the right screws ... had one wronly used on the radiator, but to my luck nothing happened and check the lengh of the radiator, fans near the radiator and the motherboard! ... we had to file on my friends fan ... but really, in the price bracket from 70-100€ both air and watercooling is potent enough (as long as it isnt a 120 aio ... those are bad for the price)

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Yes, I remember investing that and it's important to be aware how the fans are set as some may push useless air inside. Even if they are simpler to adjust, a lot of the times it can be mistaken and placed in the wrong area.

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what do you think of the upgrade I want to make?

I think that I'd kill for such an upgrade :( I hope that everything will go smoothly, and you'll be able to enjoy your monster PC soon!

As for me, I actually think that my configuration is pretty decent and is still perfectly fine for 1080p gaming - but of course I want more, who doesn't? So far I've got the following:

  • Motherboard: Asus Prime B350-Plus
  • CPU: Ryzen 1600X 3700MHz
  • GPU: RTX 2070 (don't remember the manufacturer)
  • RAM: 16 GB 1200MHz
  • SSD: Samsung 850 pro 128 GB for Windows, Samsung evo 970 500 GB (for games)
  • HDD: WD 2 TB
  • Sound card: Asus Xonar Essense (it's about 10 years old and has been serving me faithfully throughout 3 PC builds)

Plus a 23" FullHD 60 Hz Samsung monitor, so it's only 1080p gaming for me anyway. Plus my beloved headphones Sennheiser HD598, plus Oculus Quest 2.

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Plus a 23" FullHD 60 Hz Samsung monitor, so it's only 1080p gaming for me anyway. Plus my beloved headphones Sennheiser HD598, plus Oculus Quest 2.

Speaking of the Sennheiser HD598, I never had Opened-End Headphones before. How is the sound quality as I'm really searching for headphones that are rich and powerful in sound? Sometimes I listen to music and I wish I could listen a lot louder so I can be drawn in the music.

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Current setup is a 13" Samsung Series 9 laptop, i5-3317U, 4GB RAM, Intel HD Graphics 4000. It's time for an upgrade in the coming months.

I prefer the 13-14" form factor, so I'm leaning towards a Framework laptop with 32GB RAM, Dell XPS or Microsoft Surface Laptop 4 with 16GB RAM, or I might jump on the M1 MacBook Air train for the battery life and change of pace.

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While those new M1 Apple devices are hot and all I would still buy something from X series Thinkpads - I believe actual is X13, would prefer AMD flavor. Partly nostalgic, partly for much higher compatibility with various software and I believe they are still built much better - at least used to be in my experience, those devices could take some real beating and also completely serviceable.

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I don't feel comfortable in front of a smaller screen, so I don't enjoy my games on a laptop let's say. I like bigger screens so I can be absorbed in them. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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I wanna upgrade my CPU, but I'd need to get a new Motherboard to do so, but if I do that I would need to replace my RAM since I still have DDR3. I should just start from scratch :(

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That's probably what I need to do, and that would roughly cost me about £806.71 which is a lot if I think about it.

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My specs are:
CPU: Intel Core i5-8400 - 180$
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB - 260$
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z370P D3 - 80$
SSD: Goodram IRDM 120GB 550MB/s SATA III MLC - 40$
HDD: Toshiba P300 1 TB - 40$
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G2, 80+ GOLD 650W - 80$
RAM: Patriot 8GB DDR4 CL17 2400MHz x2 (16GB)- 125$
Total: 980$
I have bought these parts from march to june 2018. For me this PC is enough, I'm not planning any upgrades soon.

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It's close to what I have. 🙌🏻

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Intel i5 11400f, AsRock B560 Pro4, 16GB Crucial 3600/CL16, Kingston A2000 1TB+Toshiba P300 3TB, Asus TUF OC RTX 3070 Ti, Creative SBX AE-5+Sennheiser HD 600+Zalman ZM-MIC1, Seasonic Prime TX-650, LG 27GL83A-B display, random Samsung DVD-RW, BeQuiet PureBase 600+all slots PureWings 2 140mm+Thermalright HR-02 Macho 140mm, SPC GK530 Kailh Red, CM Storm Alcor, random cloth pad - probably QCK, Acer AH101 WMR VR set, some random 2.0 Genius speakers, lots of different gamepads including Steam Controller - PC is also connected to a TV set, Windows 11, 1Gbit from UPC, yadda, yadda, yadda :-P

I upgrade regularly, selling used parts and sticking to midrange so I never really pay too much. This machine is used exclusively for gaming so I don't care much for CPU and RAM - I will probably not upgrade those with the next generation of GPU (GPU is upgraded every generation).

2 years ago
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Quick question: How's Windows 11?

2 years ago
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It's terrible. I'm considering going back to 10. GUI is not complete, there is feature regression, lots of bugs. Shame on MS for releasing this husk of an OS as a normal, stable version, as an ISO for production. I've seen beta releases better than this, heck even development channel builds for some Linux distros.

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All opinions go to the fact that Windows 11 is unfinished. I think you need to give it more time for Microsoft fixes and adds more stuff. Windows 10 at this point is not too bad. For me, it sits around Windows 7 and XP as best OS we've had from Microsoft.

2 years ago
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Yeah, I know but it should be still in their insider program, not distributed as a complete OS package.

2 years ago
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True, they are following the DLC publisher method crap that I would hate to see in OS's.

2 years ago
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Made a small upgrade, switched i5 11400f for i7 11700 and 16GB kit from Crucial for 32GB G.Skill kit (also 3600 MHz / CL 16 but this time dual rank). Windows 11 is still bad though, nothing really changed in that department.

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I am still thinking if I should continue to wait for the upgrade, Lancet, I don't wanna go for a bare Windows, no matter how pretty it looks.

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The only thing i can say,is i get a 40€ motherboard in 2014 and i still can play today games without problem included latest games tripleaaa released just some months ago so for 7 years,so for my opinion it's absurd to pay 100\200€ for a mobo,also because these things one day or another will broken or get obsolete.

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The reason you need to pay that amount is because you are buying so it can support newer generations of processors. The GPU slots don't change much, but even RAM upgrade require a different motherboard so it supports a higher frequency. It's a costly setup and I see what you mean, but you either buy something that lasts 5-10 years from now on, or you get something that can sustain you for whats this years and maybe 1-2 years until it doesn't necessarily break, but can't support your upgrades.

I think anyone who can afford it, should not worry about getting a better motherboard.

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The question is,GET iT for what?
if me whit a 40€ motherboard can play all today videogames triple aaa released this and last year without 1 problem,so i doubt people need a 200€ motherboard for do the same thing...

sorry for my reply this i know you\others will not like it but i say truth.
people buy things if need,but today is not needed a 200€ motherboard for play

Then someone can reply "eh yes but with this 200€ you get best performance NVME storage + memory speed and maybe 9999XPCiE speed" and blablabla but for my point of view this is all bull***t...

Because the fact is,if you buy a 40€ mobo you can play so no reason to buy a 200 mobo,with this money can buy 5 Motherboard when they broken save money for 50 years

Also the 200 mobo soon will be obsolete,and can broken too,is waste of money,better invest that money in a good gpu...

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if me whit a 40€ motherboard can play all today videogames triple aaa released this and last year without 1 problem,so i doubt people need a 200€ motherboard for do the same thing...

Not at all, I mean if there's a cheaper alternative and does the same thing, I'm willing to take it. It's just difficult to find anything I want with £40 that would work with the specs.

Truth be told, I haven't even searched. I just wanted to see what kind of motherboard I need to support a 10th gen CPU.

Because the fact is,if you buy a 40€ mobo you can play so no reason to buy a 200 mobo,with this money can buy 5 Motherboard when they broken save money for 50 years

It doesn't work like that. Game technology advances and games become more and more demanding in resources. Your £40 motherboard will only carry you half a decade to just find out you need a new CPU. It's not the motherboard that helps with the game, that's just the placeholder for other important components. It does not change anything if I have the best motherboard, but I have the crappiest CPU, RAM & GPU on it. Right?

Also the 200 mobo soon will be obsolete,and can broken too,is waste of money,better invest that money in a good gpu...

That's the point. A good GPU demands a different motherboard. One that supports a type of socket, which starts to be pricy.

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Well 10th gen cpu is not needed for play games released today and before i can play all them without problem so a 40euro mobo would be ok

"It doesn't work like that."
Listen.. i still play all games released until today with my 40€ motherboard so it work like that for today i not need a 200€ mobo for play today games,i can play crysis remastered,cyberpunk2077 and all games (see my yt if u not believe )
"Game technology advances and games become more and more demanding in resources. "
Yes this is true,but i still play them with a cpu released 11 years ago and games run better than on ps4\xboxone so...
and with my 40 euro mobo .. so i not need a 200 euro mobo.
"that's just the placeholder for other important components."
Well you can buy a 40 euro mobo that support important components of today but without be expensive
if i dot it 11 years ago mean others can do too,im not an alien
"It does not change anything if I have the best motherboard, but I have the crappiest CPU, RAM & GPU on it. Right?"
As i said already,i build my pc 11 years ago,40 euro mobo,3.6ghz,16gb ram and only add recently an rtx 2060 super (not 3060) and i can play all games released until today with graphic ultra,1080p 60fps also cyberpunk2077 (only exception is RDR2 but i try it without any update at launch\release date,i don't know if now run better )

Then ok if someone is rich and have money to trow away,it's easy to make a pc only with latest expensive components..
But for my opinion is wrong to do,as you say "Game technology advances " so it's better to buy and play cheap,because if you buy and play with expensive,only 3 years then your "expensive" will be cheap\obsolete so buy it for what? for nothing,waste of money

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Well 10th gen cpu is not needed for play games released today and before i can play all them without problem so a 40euro mobo would be ok

I don't buy it for today, I buy it for the next 5-10 years. Maybe even more. A motherboard last a lot longer in terms of needed. I've got my God knows what brand years back and I was able to upgrade my CPU still even if it was old.

Listen.. i still play all games released until today with my 40€ motherboard so it work like that for today i not need a 200€ mobo for play today games,i can play crysis remastered,cyberpunk2077 and all games (see my yt if u not believe

It works right now, with the games right now. What other specs do you have on your PC? Because you may be having a good components and it's true the MOBO isn't everything, but I'm looking for a long term upgrade.

Then ok if someone is rich and have money to trow away,it's easy to make a pc only with latest expensive components..
But for my opinion is wrong to do,as you say "Game technology advances " so it's better to buy and play cheap,because if you buy and play with expensive,only 3 years then your "expensive" will be cheap\obsolete so buy it for what? for nothing,waste of money

Ok, if you can suggest me something that would be a lot cheaper for the i9, 10th generation CPU or whatever may be the case if I change my mind, what would it be?

Just because I have a different opinion doesn't mean I won't listen to reason. I may be wrong. But I don't worry so much in investing £200 on a MOBO. I am making sure I can afford it first before I buy it, but ultimately I am always looking for healthier, cheaper alternatives.

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ok me wrong,good gaming.

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Now that doesn't end anywhere Doraemon. Don't get me wrong, I hope you don't think this was an argument, but a rather more interesting dispute.

I have been thinking and when I purchased the MOBO I might have spent a little less than I listed the price. When I had to check the price for it, it is a lot more so, I listed it as it is, but it's more likely around £150-180 when I bought it for my wife.

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it's ok if you need play games next 5-10 years,it's ok take new powerful components expensive
but if you need play games today (cyberpunk2007 etc.) and before old it's not worth it to buy expensive components,it's ok to take 40 mobo and old cpu 3.6ghz because i play all with it

keep in mind that soon microsoft release new update for windows11 that enable to use new storages with "velocity architecture" or something crap markething things like that so,if you get new mobo\storage keep in mind this.

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Thank you! I will do that. I don't plan on getting the Windows 11 yet, I want to make sure that it at a functional and feature like with Windows 10. No point in downgrading my experience.

I already have the look of Windows 11, so I can get adjusted.

Have a look! 😁

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anywaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy , haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
anywaaaay hahahahahaha
it's also true
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That if you buy a $40 mobo today and save so $240,then when "Future" games will come you can just buy a $240 mobo after in future but for now save $ haaaaa and you will have the advantage to get better hw than "today hw" that for sure in future will be obsolete.
hahahahaha

this topic will not end well 🤣 hahahaha

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But if you buy a new MOBO, you gotta buy new processor & RAM if they are not compatible sometimes.

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have this 2 rubbish\garbage mobo here compatible i9 they write at amazon
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0876HPVHX/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=innor-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0876HPVHX&linkId=31cfa82894fbb8101024805aeeaefe4c

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0892TFRJC/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=innor-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B0892TFRJC&linkId=daaafdd00a0417992029c33c45cf7654

it's $140 save $140

Can use then $140 for buy mobo when broken or next upgrade

can use this for play games , not need buy $228

Also ram you write $143 ?!?! what you must do with this NASA?!?!?
can buy 16Gb ram $43 it's enough for play,can play all today games me have 16GB,save another 100$
so save 140+100=save $240 only by not buy nosense 2 expensive pieces

Also this website
https://www.anandtech.com/show/9793/best-cpus
say that Ryzen5 5600x $299 with red dead redemption 2 give better performance than the cpu you want to buy save another $75

it's not important to buy "future proof" hardware,because no hardware you buy today will be future proof,all will be OLD.
is important to SAVE MONEY,so when if your hardware old just buy new.

So + cheap you can buy,better is.

And NOT NEED 5Ghz cpu for play,i have 3.6ghz can play all ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Then ok if people want find reason for waste money they can say "eeeh but i want play at 8K with VR" etc...

i think better u buy cheap config save money,than buy all expensive\powerful that soon will be obsolete\old and crap.

Keep in mind also this:
1) if one game it's garbage\bad optimized not matter what powerful hardware you have it will never run ok
2) most of today released games quantity majority 90% it's indie,and for play indie not need powerful pc 10% of other games it's triple AAA but they will be released after 3-5 years,so also if you buy top hardware expensive is mean you can play just 2-10 "games of Future" then your hardware is already obsolete\old.

So is better save money buy new hardware but cheap,than buy new expensive top.

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have this 2 rubbish\garbage mobo here compatible i9 they write at amazon

I don't wanna have rubbish/garbage MOBO, the way you present them shows that you don't really care and what's bothering you most is how much I spend on a MOBO. 🤣

it's $140 save $140

$140 is a decent price, but what you've said earlier it's a totally different thing. $40 is way too low for the current generations of PCU & RAM.

Also ram you write $143 ?!?! what you must do with this NASA?!?!?

Lol Maybe I am 😋 I don't buy it to use it for 2021 games, but have the idea of using it in the next 10 years from now. I don't think I'll be upgrading by then. I'll be way too old to consider gaming all the time if I end up having children.

can buy 16Gb ram $43 it's enough for play, can play all today games me have 16GB, save another 100$

Amazon.com has different prices than Amazon.co.uk. The price difference between them can be substantial. The numbers I placed there is an estimation, they can fluctuate really.

say that Ryzen5 5600x $299 with red dead redemption 2 give better performance than the cpu you want to buy save another $75

I've been considering to change, but I don't know if I'd switch yet to an AMD processor. I might, you can never know. 🤷🏻‍♂️

it's not important to buy "future proof" hardware,because no hardware you buy today will be future proof,all will be OLD.
is important to SAVE MONEY,so when if your hardware old just buy new.

This means I gotta buy every 4-5 years a new one. As technology becomes more and more expensive, I don't see the point.

Then ok if people want find reason for waste money they can say "eeeh but i want play at 8K with VR" etc...

I think you think I'm willing to smash money for nothing. The stuff I placed there it's more likely a suggestion and they can change. For example, the MOBO is no longer available on the website. I have been looking at other stuff.

I appreciate that you're worried about my money spending habit. Don't get me wrong, I'm not boasting or intending to throw money in all directions just because it's expensive is doesn't mean it's the best, neither the cheaper the better. There's a balance between them.

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1) Rubbish Gargbage mobo it's the way,i buy it 7 years ago and until now still work,you must believe in the rubbish,the rubbish powah
2) What i say is i buy a 40 motherboard cheap,for a 11 years ago old CPU,but i can play all today videogames at 1080p 60fps without problem with graphic ultra,so this is mean if with this garbage config i can play it,you can play it too with a new but cheap config too,not need to buy all latest\expensive hw,it's not needed for play games new now.
3) about uk i will take a look then i will tell u
4) that article clearly show that amd run better and price looks lower yes
5) The point is,if waste money in new expensive hardware is NOTHING because all u buy now will be obsolete soon (and for be clear the cpu you buy it's already obsolete right now,because as that article show RDR2 run already now better with other cpus cheaper than your want to buy).
Vice versa if you buy cheap hardware,and play cheap,then at the next upgrade you can get new technologies hardware and continue to upgrade.
Let's make a "fantasy" Example,
let's say that today you buy $300 mobo only because it support CPU 5ghz Memory "5000" speed , NVME V2 speed and Wifi5 and blablabla
Then next year will out a mobo that have CPU6ghz ,6000 speed memory,NVM3,Wifi6 and blablabla
you waste money for nothing you think you buy new\power but you in fact has already obsolete hw..

Vice versa if you buy Cheap motherboard $40\150 let's say maybe CPU 3.6ghz,2000 speed memory,NVM1,Wifi2 you save $150
Then when after 4-5 years a new cheap motherboard will out (but with new techs maybe "Xbox Velocity NVMSuper,Wifi7,10.000 speed memory CPU7ghz support) you get it for cheap,so not only you save money but always get the best.

it's same Phones or Consoles.. you not really need the "Latest\Powerful" sometimes is better buy cheap every 4-5 years but get new techs and save money.

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Lol, let's say you'd be the person to suggest me a build you recommend, could you name the stuff I should get that would be a lot cheaper.

PS:

I wanna get:** Intel® CoreTM i9-10850K @ 5.20GHz, 32 GB RAM, Nvidia RTX 3080 10GB and ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming Intel Z490 LGA 1200 ATX Motherboard (Something Similar)

This may change, but please, if you have any suggestions for a different built, I'm happy to take into consideration. In the end, what really matters to me is a better CPU, GPU and RAM. MOBO is important to link them together, but not the game-breaker, so ofc I will pick something that is the middle ground. I just don't know yet.

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Premised that i already write you before example of components that let you save at least 140$ just buy cheaper mobo for the cpu you want and 16gb ram cheap etc.
BUT i must say Sadly right now is NOT the moment to buy because prices is x3\x10 more expensive than normal because we come from a pandemic crysis + a global chip shortage,is a situation that people not see since WorldWar 2....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_global_chip_shortage
So this is just NOT the moment to buy hardware pc
So my advice as a friend is wait 2023 for buy.
But if you can't wait just buy CHEAP components instead of LATEST\POWERFUL\EXPENSIVE
So in this way you save $ and you will have always next tecnologies

it's same phones,you can buy $1000 last powerful iphone every 1-2 year
or you can just buy $300 cheap powerful android phones every 6 year
but because technology shift after many years is big,you will get latest techs at cheap then

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BUT i must say Sadly right now is NOT the moment to buy because prices is x3\x10 more expensive than normal because we come from a pandemic crysis + a global chip shortage,is a situation that people not see since WorldWar 2....

You're very right. I am not going to buy it straight away. I will though wait for mid of 2022, and if the GeForce Now works for me, I may extend it for late 2022 to early 2023 if things are well.

So in this way you save $ and you will have always next technologies

I can definitely wait a little longer to see how the market changes. Surely the items I listed will become cheaper and irrelevant in 2022-2023. And others will be ideal for purchase. I might as well go with the RTX 3080 plan from GeForce if games are playing funny with me every 6 months, £90. That's like £15/month which is not too bad really.

it's same phones,you can buy $1000 last powerful iphone every 1-2 year

I've never owned an iPhone. Aside from their nice camera and OS, I don't seem to fancy the brand. I prefer my Samsung's.

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PS: In order to see your computer specs there's a couple of ways. The fastest and easiest way is using your Task Manager and going to Performance.

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  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5600X @ 3.7 GHz: $305.29
  • RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16: $179.43
  • Motherboard: ASUS B550-A: $185.74
  • GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti: $550

I definitely want to change the GPU especially one with a white color to fit in with my white theme build. Other than that, maybe I want to buy a revised Ryzen CPU with V-cache included coming in early 2022 if the V-cache is worth the improvement. I plan to stay on the AM4 socket with DDR4 RAM for a few years. Full build below:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Linerax/builds/#view=h7b8TW
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/h7b8TW

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I've been thinking of going for a White Build too, I got a lot of inspiration from some builds out there, and I've got in mind something like this.

But probably with a different blue. Something to represent my logo more.

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Current specs: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X; Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus; 16 GB DDR4 RAM; Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Super Windforce OC 8 GB

Fortunately I did nearly a complete hardware upgrade (minus monitors and case) just a couple of months before the pandemic hit, but I'd like to double my RAM at some point... it's just a pain in the a-- trying to find hardware that isn't RGB these days. While it's not a priority at the moment, I am happy to know that my current build is perfectly capable of running Windows 11 if/when I choose to update my OS.

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Oh yeah, everything turned RGB because the market demands it. 🤣

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Meh @ the "market". 😛

Instead, how about custom PC modding that isn't seen every day? 😉

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Instead, how about custom PC modding that isn't seen every day?

That for me feels unsafe to use, but what I think of Custom PC Modding, is more likely like this.

They look very futuristic, but badass and unique. I'd be quite happy to have one on my desk for display. Maybe not the shark, but the last one fur sure!

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Agreed. But you got to admit that it's... unique! Looks pretty good with RGB lighting too. 😁

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But you got to admit that it's... unique!

That's surely unique, I mean I've seen some desks and stuff that impressed me. Looking all old-style, yet stylish and stuff.

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
CPU FAN: SCYTHE SCNJ-5000 Ninja 5
GPU: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT THICC II Ultra 8GB
MEMORY: Crucial 32GB KIT DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Ballistix
HDD1: WD Black SN750 NVMe SSD 500GB
HDD2: Intel 660p M.2 2TB SSD NVMe
Motherboard: MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION
PSU: Seasonic Focus Plus 750 Platinum
Case: SilentiumPC Armis AR5X TG RGB
Monitor: HP 27xq

I bought 5700 XT just because of Valve Index (RX 580 was not enough) and expected to buy soon better GPU. But here we are with no GPUs on market (or overpriced). I will wait and try upgrade to Radeon 7xxx and Ryzen with V-Cache when possible. Other parts are still good enough.

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I bought 5700 XT just because of Valve Index (RX 580 was not enough) and expected to buy soon better GPU. But here we are with no GPUs on market (or overpriced). I will wait and try upgrade to Radeon 7xxx and Ryzen with V-Cache when possible. Other parts are still good enough.

I really would like to try the Valve Index, what's your experience with it?

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Well, is is interesting technology, but my brain always know, that it is just illusion and i still know it is just a game. Not 100% in. But for some entertaining games it is good, i spent most of the time in Beat Saber. Without that, i think it would be waste of money.
I also played Half-Life Alyx and Space Pirate Trainer. Not much other games.

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I want to get a VR at some point and aside from Oculus, I have been looking at Valve Index as it's by far one of the best VR headsets on the market. I'd probably like to try some old games in VR if they are supported to see the world once more differently.

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Ryzen 5 3600
GTX 1080
16 GB RAM
ASUS PRIME X570-P motherboard

I like an RTX 3000 something first then an 5600x later, but not for these prices
My gtx1080 is still decent enough for high 1080p gaming, but because my backlog is so big already, I don't really need an upgrade for 2 or 3 years :D

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My GTX 1060 struggles at this point and so is my CPU, so I am looking at upgrading that Motherboard, RAM and CPU first.

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Go for AMD. You can upgrade your CPU much further in the future because AMD does not change its socket often. If you are on a budget for GPU check the used market. My 1080 is still 20% better than a 1660ti and it is around the same price or cheaper.
The question always is, what do you want to play and how much money do you have. I can recommend you a build if I know these thing.

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The question always is, what do you want to play and how much money do you have. I can recommend you a build if I know these thing.

I want to be able to play anything that came out in the last 5 years to their highest settings, or close to that, and be able to stream/record it.

For example: I am a huge fan of the AC franchise, but I can't seem to run the Medium settings with Odyssey as it tends to stress my CPU to the max. I am thinking to overclock the processor as I'm capable of doing so.

I don't have a budget per say, it's more of a direction of what build I wanna have, in the long run, even if I buy parts by parts, I will get there.

I plan on getting the CPU, Motherboard & RAM first, as once you upgrade one, you gotta upgrade the rest. There my budget is to no more than £1000.

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Ummm good luck. If you want to play everything in ultra from the last 3-5 years or the newest AAA games in 1080p 60Hz, you need at least an RTX 2080 super or better. A used RTX 2080S is around £850. A new RTX 3060ti starts from £1000. A decent 6c/12t CPU start from £250 and the rest of the pc is around 300-500 GBP. You can bump up your CPU and other stuff first for 500-700 GBP, and gather some money for a GPU or you can wait for the price to drop.
AMD 5600x £279
Gigabyte X570 GAMING X (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard £170
Corsair Professional Series HX 850W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply £158
Crucial Ballistix 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit £65
500g SSD + 4tb circa £183
Case circa £60
cables and stuff £20
noctua cpu cooler £60

Summa £995 without GPU

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Summa £995 without GPU

That's not too bad given that I've got some of the stuff already.

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Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

Been holding up decent. The last year, has been painful with laggy feel.
What would a good budget CPU be to upgrade from what I got?

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What would a good budget CPU be to upgrade from what I got?

I don't know where you're located as prices can be different. And what do you mean by budget? How much money do you have to invest?

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ryzen 2600
1070
16GB

I still run the games I play on 144+ fps so I don't really want to upgrade yet, when I built this I was planning to have 2600 as a placeholder for the 3600 which was promising way better specs, but irl tests were kinda "just ok" so I wanted to upgrade on the next ryzen, but then they said that you would have to get a new mobo too, when they promised that a mobo would last you like 4 gens when they released ryzens so I was just like fuck it and I'll run this setup until I'll want to play a new game and it will run on low fps

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I still run the games I play on 144+ fps so I don't really want to upgrade yet, when I built this I was planning to have 2600 as a placeholder for the 3600 which was promising way better specs, but irl tests were kinda "just ok" so I wanted to upgrade on the next ryzen, but then they said that you would have to get a new mobo too, when they promised that a mobo would last you like 4 gens when they released ryzens so I was just like fuck it and I'll run this setup until I'll want to play a new game and it will run on low fps

One of the reasons for my upgrade is that I can't record/stream newer games without lagging like crazy. So I can't provide a quality experience over streams and I can only play outdated games without an issue.

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I tried streaming valorant and csgo and they run at around 120 fps, at the highest bitrate, otherwise it looks like play doh when there are too many things happening at once. So I can't fully utilize my monitor when I'm streaming. Normally I get around 200 stable. Anyways I'm sure you will be able to stream just fine with the things you plan on buying

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Without a doubt. I can see it done by my wife. She barely stresses the PC with Ultra Settings for most games.

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just a thought, maybe you can use your current one and then run dual pc stream to take off some load from the main pc

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You mean, keep my old PC and leave it to do the Streams while I game on the new upgraded one? I may need some extra space and the two that I have side by side, because my wife and I both game, warms up the room significantly.

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After 10th gen Intel you shouldn't get Intel anymore. Especially not with 12th gen Intel since it uses hybrid processor cores which are not supported by many games and applications.
And it's literally the worst time to buy a new GPU. Prices are still almost double of what the listed retail prices are.
RTX 3070 should cost $500-$600 and it's still way over $1.1k

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After 10th gen Intel you shouldn't get Intel anymore. Especially not with 12th gen Intel since it uses hybrid processor cores which are not supported by many games and applications.

Noted. I heard that AMD is picking up quite well and beating Intel badly in the process department. Is that why you suggested to not upgrade? If I make this upgrade, I'd probably not upgrade until maybe 5-8 years later. If I get to anyway. A lot can happen then.

And it's literally the worst time to buy a new GPU. Prices are still almost double of what the listed retail prices are.
RTX 3070 should cost $500-$600 and it's still way over $1.1k

I believe that unless a new generation shows up next year or in 2023, the price will stay closely the same.

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AMD already wiped the floor with INTEL.
It's more energy efficient and has higher performance than INTEL CPUs.
The lower GHz per core is nothing bad on AMD. It has better IPC (Instructions per clock).
Imagine you have a big car with 10 seats in that car. The 10 seats are the IPC. Your car gotta drive from A to B - that's your clock.
AMD comes with let's say a bus with 50 seats. Guess who drives more people to their destination when both drive let's say 10 times.
INTEL would have driven 100 people (instructions) while AMD did 500 people.
That's a really simple example of course the stuff is more complicated.
TL;DR - a CPU that clocks higher isn't necessarily faster.

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AMD already wiped the floor with INTEL.

No surprise there, I think INTEL needs to catch up. I like when companies create a competition, we can expect better products on both sides.

Imagine you have a big car with 10 seats and that car. The 10 seats are the IPC. Your car gotta drive from A to B - that's your clock.
AMD comes with let's say a bus with 50 seats. Guess who drives more people to their destination when both drive let's say 10 times.

Very good explanation. Makes a lot of sense. Thank you!

TL;DR - a CPU that clocks higher isn't necessarily faster.

True that!

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i5-4670k, 16GB DDR3, and 1660 Super. My motherboard broke a few weeks ago and I considered doing a full upgrade instead of a replacement, but this runs everything I've tried comfortably at 60+ FPS. I think I'll be happy with it still for at least another year.

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Sometimes problems bring sacrifices, that lead to success.

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Current specs are: i5-4670K @ 3.4 GHz, 12GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770

I'd wanna get something similar to what you are getting, but I'd also need a bigger SSD and ideally keep everything under 1.500€
I haven't really looked into it because the current prices are just unreasonably high (just checked the RTX 3080 and in the few stores that have it in stock it's about 1.500€ alone)

I'm just hoping my ~8 year old desktop setup survives the games I'm playing a bit longer and prices calm down next year 😅

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I'd wanna get something similar to what you are getting, but I'd also need a bigger SSD and ideally keep everything under 1.500€
I haven't really looked into it because the current prices are just unreasonably high (just checked the RTX 3080 and in the few stores that have it in stock it's about 1.500€ alone)

My most recent upgrade was an SSD of 1TB. Best investment I've made in a while. Totally changed the game for me.

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Regarding your upgrade, first of all, Alder Lake (Intel 12th gen) is being released today. Deciding on a CPU before seeing how this pans out is IMO not the best idea.

For the motherboard, I personally think that expensive motherboards are a waste of money.

GPU, if you can buy a 3080 for £649, buy several, sell them for £1000 more, and finance the rest of your PC with that.

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Regarding your upgrade, first of all, Alder Lake (Intel 12th gen) is being released today. Deciding on a CPU before seeing how this pans out is IMO not the best idea.

Not planning to get the 12th generation anyway. I will take a long break before I jump for another GPU. By then I might not even upgrade, or the upgrade will be on a different brand.

For the motherboard, I personally think that expensive motherboards are a waste of money.

I only picked it because it supports the 9th and 10th generation of processors. What do you suggest as an alternative?

GPU, if you can buy a 3080 for £649, buy several, sell them for £1000 more, and finance the rest of your PC with that.

That's what scalpers do. But I get that it's a good business way to save money.

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Not planning to get the 12th generation anyway.

Why not? A 12600K + DDR4 motherboard can be preordered for £490 from Scan. A 12600K will beat the 10850K significantly in games and won't be any worse for productivity tasks. If you have a particular reason to spend more on a weaker setup, please explain.

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I didn't know the price, I was thinking that since it just came out, it's gonna be hella expensive. I also thought it's an i9 or something.

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There's an i9, i7 and i5. In terms of gaming performance there doesn't seem to be any real advantage to the i9 over the i5. The 12600K looks to me to be the CPU to get.

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I'm not 100% sure, but having more cores may help with streaming/recording while gaming? I don't only wanna use it for gaming. I am planning to use it for work too. So, that being said, wouldn't an i7 be better or an i9?

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More cores might help a little for recording, but I don't think it's really significant. Encoding is done with an encoding unit, not the CPU cores, and recording the video taxes the disk.

For some types of work, yes, extra cores could be helpful, but this highly depends on what you do. I'd suggest looking at some reviews of the 12600K to see how it compares to the 12700K and 12900K in various tasks.

In general I'd say that buying the top of the line CPU is rarely worth the extra, unless you have a lot of money or your work is influences enough by the little extra performance that you'll make the money back.

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That makes a lot of sense, yes. I don't wanna really buy the most recent one really, I am going to consider it. Thank you!

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I think it's worth adding that a 12th gen i5 will be much better than a 11th or 10th gen i9. 12th gen is significantly better than previous gens, and the i5 vs. i7 vs. i9 part shouldn't be compared between generations.

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I see, I'm glad to hear opinions on this matter. I appreciate the kind support! 🙏🏻

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That deal isn't half bad to be honest I'd be tempted into something like that if I were in need of a new CPU and Motherboard upgrade in a pinch, especially as it can use my DDR4 memory instead of the more expensive DDR5.

I do love Scan, get most of my PC parts from there. :)

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The ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming Intel Z490 LGA 1200 ATX Motherboard doesn't support 9th Gen CPU's. 9th Gen CPU's are Z390 Chipset and Socket 1151, where as the Z490 chipset is Socket 1200 so don't go buying a 9th Gen CPU if you go with the Z490 motherboard as it won't fit. :)

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That's what worries me. I am looking for a long term kinda thing and I definitely want to upgrade my i5 into an i7 or i9 for streaming and recording purposes. I've understood that they are more suited for that kind of heavy-duty work.

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Ryzen 1500X
1660 Super 6GB
16GB 3000MHz Ram

I can play everything I try to play without an issue, except Star Citizen recently, which crashes randomly because it's optimized bad and wants more RAM, so... I'm not really in a rush to upgrade, but I would like a stronger CPU so it's not bottlenecking the GPU, and more memory so SC isn't a pain in the ass for me, but that probably won't happen for awhile.

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I can play everything I try to play without an issue, except Star Citizen recently, which crashes randomly because it's optimized bad and wants more RAM, so... I'm not really in a rush to upgrade, but I would like a stronger CPU so it's not bottlenecking the GPU, and more memory so SC isn't a pain in the ass for me, but that probably won't happen for awhile.

I completely forgot about Star Citizen. It was on my radar. Is it an FPS?

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It has some FPS gameplay, but it's not exclusive to that, it's intended to be full on Space Sim. Game still has a lot of work to go for it to be great though. Right now we're still limited to a single solar system, but there is a variety of stuff to do, from exploring, to mining, combat (both FPS and in ships), bounty hunting, piracy, trading, deliveries, etc etc... However it is also be buggy, and has poor optimization. Odds are it'll still be 2+ years before they've accomplished enough to make it a must have game for people.

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We can only hope that it reaches potential and expands as No Man Sky did or EVE Online.

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For sure. Despite it's bugs, performance issues, and lack of space/content... What SC does do, it does better than any game of it's kind imo. Their real issue is just nailing that back end server tech. They appear to finally be making some progress with it tho, so fingers crossed.

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It's in Early Access state?

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Yah, still Alpha. That's why I say a good 2+ years before it's a must buy, right now you only buy if you want to support development, and play on and off. There is stuff to do, and it can be fun, but it will get stale quick enough, and bugs/performance can kill the experience at times. Plus their is still potential for resets, one coming in next update 3.15 as a matter of fact, which means you can lose progress. I'll be losing a few ships, clothing, armor, weapons and money.

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This is the very reason I didn't play yet Baldur's Gate 3. I bought it, but didn't play it yet. It's unfinished sadly.

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I spent way too much on my PC although I'm planing on running it for a good few years. I built it two years ago beginning of December and is still going strong so I won't be upgrading anytime soon.
I have got an order in for a Steam Deck which will also keep me going for a while with any luck. :)

i9 9900K @ 5Ghz All Cores
CORSAIR Hydro Series H115i RGB PLATINUM
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master
Corsair Dominator PLATINUM 32GB 3600mhz Memory
Asus 2080Ti Strix OC

Corsair MP510 1.92TB M.2 PCIe NVMe
Gigabyte 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe
1x 500GB Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 PCIe NVMe
2x 500GB Samsung 860 EVO Sata III
Western Digital 4TB Black 256mb Cache

Corsair 680X Case
Corsair 850W RM850x
Corsair Type 4 Gen 4 PSU White/Black Sleeved Cable Pro Kit
Corsair Premium Type4 Gen4 Cable Comb Kit

LG UltraGear 32GP850 32" G-Sync 180Hz HDR 10 2560x1440 (Main Monitor)
Predator XF270HA 27" FreeSync/G-Sync 240Hz 1920x1080 (Second Monitor)

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You did a good thing by buying it when you did. Must have enjoyed your lockdowns well. 😍

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I nearly waited but I seen an Asus 2080Ti Strix OC with 300 quid off and it came with a GigaByte 1TB M.2 NVME, Asus ROG Headset and COD Modern Warfare. Thought it was a bargin (kinda, 1225 quid is still expensive) so I grabbed it and over next month grabbed rest of the parts and built it, Christmas had come early that year :)

Glad I didn't wait any longer, I'd still be waiting now and stuck on my i7 3770, 16GB DDR3 1866Mhz memory and 1060GTX 6GB which still isn't too bad but it was starting to become a little close to min specs on some games.

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Glad I didn't wait any longer, I'd still be waiting now and stuck on my i7 3770, 16GB DDR3 1866Mhz memory and 1060GTX 6GB which still isn't too bad but it was starting to become a little close to min specs on some games.

That's where I am today so yeah, some people report having a lot more performance, but then again, they don't mention which games they perform on Ultra while recording or streaming.

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