Do you want to upgrade your Desktop/Laptop?
Recently bought a Lenovo Legion 5 (Ryzen 5, 3060 130W, 16Gb RAM, 1.5Tb SSD NVMe) for under 1000€ so no complaints over here nor any plans of upgrading anything in a couple of years :)
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i7-4790K with 24GB RAM and a 1070Ti. I may upgrade in the next couple years. I’ve been wanting to hold out for DDR5, which is finally hitting the market. In any event I’m in no rush, my computer can still handle anything I throw at it like a champ. 1440p at 60-144 fps with high-ultra settings. I have beyond nothing to complain about.
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That's really good, I've got games that run that good too, but most recent ones can stress my CPU to the max.
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i5-6600K OC@ 4,4GHz, 16 GB RAM 2400MHz OC@2666MHz, RTX 3060 Ti (replaced a 1060 6GB two months ago. Was an impulse purchase as I've had an affordable deal).
My CPU is bottlenecking the new GPU in some games, but it's barely noticeably (only when playing new games over 1440p60hz).
I kinda wanted to upgrade the CPU as well, but I decided to wait for Intel's Alder Lake with DDR5 und PCIe 5.0.
So maybe in summer 2022, I'll see if it's reasonable to get a new CPU, MB & RAM. If I had to buy some now, I'd probably go for a i5-12600k and a cheap crucial 16GB DDR5 RAM (for 330€ + 135€ + 100-150€ for any compatible MB).
Which would be about 600€ for an upgrade. (The 3060 Ti cost me 606€, which I don't regret buying at all, even for over UVP).
I'm more looking for a 1080p120hz gaming projector right now, to play my backlog of cinematic (singleplayer) games. Anyone got some suggestion for that? Optoma, BenQ and Acer have some.
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RTX 3060 Ti (replaced a 1060 6GB two months ago. Was an impulse purchase as I've had an affordable deal).
Which would be about 600€ for an upgrade. (The 3060 Ti cost me 606€, which I don't regret buying at all, even for over UVP).
That's a good price for it's time really. You've been really lucky I guess. Where did you buy it from?
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CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 3600 for 169 eur
GPU : GAINWARD GeForce RTX 3080 Phoenix GS for 790 eur
low cost MB: Asus PRIME A320I-K for 50 eur
RAM : Crucial 16 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
SSD : WD Blue SN550 NVMe SSD 2 TB
HDD : Seagate BarraCuda 4 TB
PSU : Seasonic X-750 (SS-750KM) First silent version bought it 7y ago.
Mouse : Logitech G Pro Wireless
Headset : HyperX Cloud II
Monitor : ACER XB323U GX 270Hz 2K IPS, this was fuck expensive 1k euro, but I'm so glad, It's was big change when I went from 70hz to 270hz in CS:GO look very smooth
price for pc was 1400eur, 150 for keyboard, mouse and headset.
bought it before chip crisis,
Using it alot with valve index, oth. for everythink job, movies. ..... :-)
before this setup I had i5 2500k from release, 6years I think, it.was great cpu, I was changing only GPU every 2year.
My next upg will be with new generation cpu from amd, + DDR5 with normal price
Last new generation of Intel is very goood, but now I don't need upg cpu.
now waiting for Steam deck, I'm in december window, ordered 19:01 eu time.
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now waiting for Steam deck, I'm in december window, ordered 19:01 eu time.
Did they say that they will release later in the year the 512 GB version or did I understand wrong?
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yes, steam deck will be shipped in december, for peoples who did reservation in first seconds / minutes, after this time it's jumped to Q1,Q2 2022
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I think I must have not seen it in time. Because of me, it states: "Your expected order availability: Q2 2022"
This is great because I would be looking at upgrading my PC for a while and then spend money on the SteamDeck next year. It's a great opportunity for Valve once more to crush the market with their products.
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yeah, I have "Your expected order availability: December 2021" for steam deck 512gb version,
This device don't have competition for same.price, ayaneo cost 1k euro.:-)
I'll use it as emulator of gameboy/nintendo wii, ofcourse I'll play games from my bed which I don't want play on gaming pc.
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Mine: FX6300, 8GB Ram, AMD HD7700, M5A78L-M and an EVGA 430W
i'd like to get someday: Ryzen 5 3400g, B450 Steel Legends, Redragon 600W, 16GB Ram and Redragon Wheel Jack
I'd use the integrated graphics for a while until GPU prices decrease
Price: R$3500 Reais ($626.79 Dollars)
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That price scared me for a second, I thought it was $3500 😱
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Ughh, Thinkpad X201 with an i5-520M, RAM upgraded to 8 gigs. It's enough for most of the things I do or play with, but the "modern" unoptimized Unity games are sometimes hard to bite (some of them even showed on the system tray that in reality they are debug builds...) Fortunately found a couple of config settings to make them more playable.
Also have a H67+i5 something desktop, but haven't turned it on in the last 2 years.
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Some games are just poorly optimized and cause a lot of issues really.
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For anyone running on a severe potato, upgrading to a moderate potato isn't so bad. I upgraded from a 2011 laptop to a 2014 laptop, which opened up 3 more years of games. It could run pretty much all 2D games up to circa 2019 when more 2D games started getting a lot of special effects on top. It made a huge difference because I'm bedridden, and the computer is the outside world for me.
One problem is I was making a game that's now stuck at max 1920 x 1080 resolution because that's the most photoshop could handle without lag (Intel Iris 1536 MB), and now it's too small and there's no way of making it bigger.
Right now images load line by line, and audio/video files buffer...idk if it's just the age of my laptop or something has gone wrong.
Anyhow, good luck with your upgrade, Vasharal. I hope it goes well
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I'm really sorry to hear about your condition. I wish you best of luck and I'm happy that gaming and the computer helped you cope with it so much.
Laptops may slow down after a while. It's very much like phones, as new software updates, they become slower and tired. It doesn't hurt getting a new one if you can afford it.
What do you like to work in Photoshop?
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Thank you for the luck! You're too kind :) That's good to know it's probably not a virus because I'll have this one indefinitely. I wish I had advice for your rig, but I'm not knowledgeable.
Thanks for asking! I was making a visual novel, doing the backgrounds and characters in photoshop (attached example). I finished the beta version just before becoming too ill to continue. I want to release it via death switch or something. I don't know how to program that, but I'm sure there are places to learn how to get started.
What software are you using for YT? Your ACNH video is really cozy (if I found the right channel).
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That looks really pretty! 🥰 Where can I see more of your art?
I use it for multiple things really. Mainly our YT channel. The one with ACNH is my wife's video. I do other games that I can stream/record.
I have multiple Instagram accounts where I educate, mentor, motivate and inspire people. Here's what I do:
Instagram Post 1 & Instagram Post 2
Then of course it's for the YT channel.
My wife uses it for the arts that she did. Here's what she did.
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This is mindblowingly beautiful. Thank you for showing it off here. I'd buy and play that in a heartbeat.
All my good wishes for your condition to improve (will it?), and good luck with your project.
I'm kind of wondering, as I am experienced with Photoshop - how is there no way to make your images bigger? Can't you just upscale them via image size?
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Thank you so much, eeev. That means a lot! I think it may be unlikely to improve, but I'm trying everything I can. In Photoshop, you can upscale things a certain amount depending on the size without losing significant quality. But if I tried to make an image twice as large for example, it'd become pixelated and blurry. Some types of image can be upscaled any amount without quality loss, like pixel art and vector art, but my images are raster art.
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i got a laptop with ryzen 7 4800h 16 gb ram and a gtx1660ti
since i dont really play lots of games anymore, and its mostly cs:go or ets2 at this point, both games run very well and with the 144hz screen, it looks decent (disappointing colour accuracy and backlight bleed though)
as for your upgrade, if you have the money, of course go for it, the gpu upgrade especially is a huge one, ram only if you are a heavy multitasker, cpu (and motherboard) are an upgrade, but not a very significant one for gaming, personally i wouldnt do it, but depends on your usage
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as for your upgrade, if you have the money, of course go for it, the gpu upgrade especially is a huge one, ram only if you are a heavy multitasker, cpu (and motherboard) are an upgrade, but not a very significant one for gaming, personally i wouldnt do it, but depends on your usage
I'll not be using for gaming only. I am also a content creator, YT and editor, so I need it to crush some of the stuff I do. Gaming part interests me on the streaming/recording part.
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in that case it makes perfect sense to go for it fully, hope you can get the parts on a decent price
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By the time I buy stuff, I will more likely change the stuff I buy, but I'm happy to hear opinions.
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I have an i7-9700K, 3.6GHz, 16GB DDR4, and a GTX 1080. More details are on my profile.
Yes you will need an upgrade in future, but for now you are fine for almost all games...at least for a couple years.
As someone who's been gaming since 1992, I will say a lot of so called gamers don't understand why / when they need to upgrade.
If you are not a professional gamer, you don't need the latest rig. Because there will always been something better in the next 6-months.
Ignore your friends / Youtube videos / streamers.
Your rig can play most games at 1080p and Medium-high graphs and still get 60 fps easy.
I know this because my previous build was an i7-4790K with a GTX 1070. And there wasn't a game that did not run at 60 FPS. I always ran with V-sync to save processing power. I only needed an SSD for multiplayer games to improve load times.
As always, the goal is to have fun at a reasonable price.
I buy from Microcenter. My build above was open box because its way cheaper. Sold my 1070 on e-bay and got my 1080 there also.
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Yes you will need an upgrade in future, but for now you are fine for almost all games...at least for a couple years.
As someone who's been gaming since 1992, I will say a lot of so called gamers don't understand why / when they need to upgrade.
If you are not a professional gamer, you don't need the latest rig. Because there will always been something better in the next 6-months.
Ignore your friends / Youtube videos / streamers.
Some games I can't play because it bottlenecks my CPU or GPU. I've seen more struggles from my CPU really.
Most games I play work, but as YTer I can't be playing all the time games from 2005-2015 because they are the only ones that I can run smoothly during streams/recordings. This is why I wanna upgrade. It sounds a bit dumb, but because my wife got the same upgrade recently, I want to have it too and we both talked to work on that. I don't get stuff because something comes next in 6-months. I don't look to upgrade for that reason. I generally buy/upgrade to get a significant improvement for 5-10 years from now. My last upgrade was in 2017, to the current specs I've mentioned.
Although most games run, I can't make them run with Streams/Recordings. So while my wife records her newest games, I also want to play, I am forced to do the upgrades.
Your rig can play most games at 1080p and Medium-high graphs and still get 60 fps easy.
I didn't check the most recent games, but Cyberpunk & Valhalla already struggles with my 1440p monitor. May be one of the reasons why my frames aren't really at the toppest. It's my CPU that struggles in all this. But with that upgrade, I need a new MOBO & RAM.
I always ran with V-sync to save processing power.
I may need to do that for some recent games.
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Thanks for clarifying.
What software do you use to record / stream. I've always used OBS and it works fine, I streamed on Twitch for a while but didn't have time to take it seriously. You can tweak the settings to get the best balance. With your current rig, I recommend streaming at 720p or recording to a dedicated drive at 1080p.
Is you have your OS on an SSD that will also help a lot.
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I use OBS too, I've used Streamlabs OBS, but it seems OBS is a lot more reliable in consumption.
During streaming, I've had issues running the games I wanted to play which are a lot more recent. My Processor just struggles with it all.
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Desktop built in March 2014:
Intel i7 4770 @ 3.4 GHz (stock) - ASUS H87-PLUS C2 - 16 GB of G.Skill DDR3 - GTX 660 (upgraded later to 1060 6GB) - Windows 7
I'm extremely happy with my setup and can nicely play every game in my Steam library.
I have no intention of replacing it in the near future as I've got the Steam Deck (normally) coming next month.
When it no longer works, I'm not sure what I'll get but I do know I will not spend 500+ euros on a graphics card.
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I have no intention of replacing it in the near future as I've got the Steam Deck (normally) coming next month.
Are you planning to get the 512 GB version? That's said to come later or I understood wrong?
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I settled for the 256 GB one as 512 is too much for my simple needs and you can still use a micro SD for extra storage (though it's not as fast). I think all models will release at the same time but maybe I'm wrong.
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The 512 I wanna get says "Your expected order availability: Q2 2022", so that may be between April, May, and June. It's perfect for me, because that gives me time for my PC upgrades and save money for the SteamDeck.
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8GB Ryzen 4600h
8GB DDR4 (I think to add 8 more when I'm in the mood to do it)
GTX1650 (mobile?) 4GB DDR4
512 GB SSD
This configuration is quite enough for me (I don't play games that often, and mostly these are not demanding indie projects)
P.S: I had a more powerful computer for a while, but I realized that I play very little and I actually don't need it.
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This configuration is quite enough for me (I don't play games that often, and mostly these are not demanding indie projects)
P.S: I had a more powerful computer for a while, but I realized that I play very little and I actually don't need it.
That's good, Indies don't take that many resources for sure. What is by far your best indie games you've played that aren't so popular in your opinion?
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The last project that impressed me was Road 96.
I played this game even before the release (I participated in the beta test) and it was really cool. This game gave me everything that I wanted to feel from Life is Strange 2.
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I've got that game on my wishlist. So it's a lot better than Life is Strange?
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It's better than Life is Strange 2.
It is much more difficult to compare it with the first part - this is a road trip, and not a static game. This is a great journey, united by one plot and meeting characters.
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I wish I could just get my 7th gen i5 to a 7th gen i7 to get more threads going but even that is almost $400. Newer processors are cheaper but then I'd have to deal with a new board too .... ugh.......
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I wish things would be easier, but you're probably like me and have an old MOBO that no longer supports newer generations and needs to be upgraded as well.
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[GPU] AMD Radeon RX 6800 16gb
[CPU] AMD Ryzen 5 3500
[AIO] Corsair H60 2018
[M/B] Asus TUF X570 Gaming
[SSD] PNY XLRB Gaming PCIe 3.0 1tb
[HDD] Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM008 (x2)
[RAM] Corsair Dominator Platinum 3200mhz Kit 16gb
[PSU] Corsair TX550m
[CAS] Sharkoon AI7000 Glass
[FAN] Corsair AF & SP Blue LED 120mm (x5)
[FAN] Coolermaster Masterfan MF120 ARGB (x1)
[LED] Deepcool 200EX RGB
[KEY] Corsair K68 RGB (Cherry MX Red)
[MOU] Logitech G502 SE
[PAD] Corsair MM350
[JOY] Microsoft Xbox One Wireless Controller Kit for PC
[EAR] Edifier M1370B 34w RMS
[MON] A generic 1080p @60Hz for while...
My current setup born in 2018 and, since then, i makes small changes all years. This year will be a new monitor to make a nice combo with my GPU (1440p @144Hz maybe). A CPU upgrade stay in my plans to next year (problably the AIO and the PSU will be changed too)
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My current setup born in 2018 and, since then, i makes small changes all years. This year will be a new monitor to make a nice combo with my GPU (1440p @144Hz maybe). A CPU upgrade stay in my plans to next year (problably the AIO and the PSU will be changed too)
Gotta look after our babies. 😂
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I currently have an almost 4 years old laptop, which was quite low-end even when it was new...
AMD A6-9220 RADEON R4 @ 2.5 GHz
4 GB RAM
Integrated graphics card
I tried to upgrade it by adding more RAM sticks, but for some fucking reason, when you want to open the laptop, the two parts it should disassemble to are both connected to the disc drive, so there probably isn't a way to get it open without damaging something (fuck HP).
I already have money saved up for an upgrade. I will be glad to get anything decent that will allow me to play at least some modern games. Now I'm trying to figure out if I should buy it before, during, or after Christmas to get the best deal.
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I tried to upgrade it by adding more RAM sticks, but for some fucking reason, when you want to open the laptop, the two parts it should disassemble to are both connected to the disc drive, so there probably isn't a way to get it open without damaging something (fuck HP).
Designed in such a way only they can work on it? A reason why I don't get laptops is because of the upgradability issues.
I already have money saved up for an upgrade. I will be glad to get anything decent that will allow me to play at least some modern games. Now I'm trying to figure out if I should buy it before, during, or after Christmas to get the best deal.
Wouldn't it be cheaper getting a Desktop PC instead?
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been waiting to upgrade gpu but in canada it is ridiculously hard to get mrsp gpus unless you pay scalper prices. which I wont do unless my crypto investment gets huge.
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I am still on the old i7-6700K@4.5GHz with 32GB RAM and a GTX 1080. It's still an alright configuration, but getting stable 60+fps on 3440*1440 is not always easy (GSync luckily helps a lot in accepting sub-60 fps in some games).
I wanted to upgrade to a 5950X, 64GB RAM and a RTX 3080 this year. But the absurd GPU prices forced me to wait. And now that we're already transitioning to DDR5 anyway, I think I can wait a few more months and then go for either the i9-12900K, which seems to be pretty nice, or whatever AMD pushes out with DDR5 support.
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I am still on the old i7-6700K@4.5GHz with 32GB RAM and a GTX 1080. It's still an alright configuration, but getting stable 60+fps on 3440*1440 is not always easy (GSync luckily helps a lot in accepting sub-60 fps in some games).
What monitor do you have?
I wanted to upgrade to a 5950X, 64GB RAM and a RTX 3080 this year. But the absurd GPU prices forced me to wait. And now that we're already transitioning to DDR5 anyway, I think I can wait a few more months and then go for either the i9-12900K, which seems to be pretty nice, or whatever AMD pushes out with DDR5 support.
I didn't check the market and changes in technology for years, I just found out about DDR5 coming out. I am really wondering how good they are and how much of a change they make.
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What monitor do you have?
The HP Omen X or whatever it is called. Ultrawide resolution of 3440*1440, 100Hz, GSync, VA Panel. It's not bad, but it's lacking HDR support, which is why I am already looking what the market has to offer. Unfortunately the selection for UW HDR monitors with decent brightness is rather small. There is one from LC-Power that looks promising (1000 nits and 144Hz for ~700€). The really good ones all cost 2500-3000€. And I am not going to spend that much on a monitor. :/
I didn't check the market and changes in technology for years, I just found out about DDR5 coming out. I am really wondering how good they are and how much of a change they make.
I haven't seen benchmarks yet, but it is most likely an incremental upgrade, just like always. If you buy new DDR5 memory today, it probably will be about the same as super-highend DDR4.
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There is one from LC-Power that looks promising (1000 nits and 144Hz for ~700€). The really good ones all cost 2500-3000€. And I am not going to spend that much on a monitor. :/
Yeah, it's totally not worth it for that amount.
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Desktop
Case: Lian Li TU150
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
MB: Gigabyte B550I Aorus Pro AX
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Super GAMING OC 8GB GDDR6
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3200MHz DDR4 DIMM CL16 (2x8GB)
Beans: Bush's Best Baked Beans, 3 Original Baked Beans, 3 Country Style Baked Beans, 8.3 Oz Variety Pack, 1 CT
Not mentioning coolers, power supply etc, bc who cares.
I don't think I'm gonna upgrade until the crypto bullshit goes down and we can buy components normally again.
Laptop:
Lenovo Yoga C940
i7-1065G7 CPU / 16GB RAM / Iris Plus Graphics G7
it's not a gaming laptop, just a nice-looking slim machine I use mostly for remote work, or for urgent shitposting on the go (like right now)
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I think your RTX 2080 is good as it is man. It will be sufficient for a couple of years.
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but how else am I gonna run Minesweeper in glorious 16k RTX VR
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For VR it requires a lot more? Does it need GPU or CPU mainly?
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it requires extra GPU and CPU for when your PC EXPLODES from the RTX mine
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Well, that makes sense then. Good to know!
What do you think it would be a recommended setting to run the Index at the best options possible?
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i7-2620M, 8gb RAM. IntelHD3000....
Don't know, when I will upgrade this. I was thinking about set PC with Ryzen 3 2200G + Vega 8
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So you're switching to AMD, I think it's a good move. Although I've used Intel for most of my life, I can see why people begin to choose AMD.
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AMD Ryzen 3700X, 32GB DDR4, RX 6800 XT, 1TB NVMe.
I might go for the easy upgrade of 5900X/5950X eventually but I'm in no hurry. What I really want to upgrade is my display, currently a 32" 2160p 60Hz VA panel to a 32" >=2160p >=120Hz OLED/microLED.
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Sometimes having a visually pleasing PC makes you feel somewhat appreciative of what you've got. 😄
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CPU: AMD Ryzen7 3700x
PCB: MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
RAM: HyperX Fury 2x 16Gb DDR4 3466MHz
GPU: RTX3060ti Gigabyte Gaming OC pro 8Gb
HDD: SanDisk 240GB SSD Plus 4system
- 1 TB Kingston SNVS/1000G 4Steam
- Kingston A400 480 Gb 4non-steam-games
- Samsung Spinpoint F3 1Tb 4data
PSU: Seasonic S12-II-620 Bronze
MON: I2280SWD IPS Full HD 21.5" x2
AUD: Razer Kraken X + AltecLansing ATP3
HID: CM Storm Quickfire TK Blue + MS Imperator2
GPD: Logitech F310
No plans for immediate upgrades, maybe some more memory down the line. Have 2Tb HDD in a box, can't deal with cables right now to put it inside. If I had some larger sum and wanted to spend, I don't even know what to look at... maybe VR gear but not sure it's worth it yet...
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Well, since you got yourself an RTX 3060 TI that should hold you for the next generations of games to come in the next 5-8 years.
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CPU: i5 9600f
GPU: GTX 1080
RAM: 16GB DDR4
HDD: 3 x 3TB Seagate BarraCuda
SSD: Samsung EVO 860 256 GB
I plan on getting an RTX 360 or 370 once the prices have become stable enough. My trusty GTX 1080 still serves me well in the mean time. Probably add another 16GB since I do a lot of multi-media projects. Replace my old SSD with a higher capacity one I guess but I'm no hurry right now. My budget is allocated somewhere else at the moment.
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To be fair, I'm happy with my GTX 1060 too, as it still holds up games, my CPU is the problem. That's where I need to work on.
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Yeah. I'm content with what I have right now since I really do not have a lot of time to play games. What I really need to do is stop getting baited with sales and discounts, buying games but not playing them.
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I am lucky that I do kinda both. I am playing games, but some of the games I play are massive. They take me a big amount of time to finish them 100%.
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Ryzen 5 3.20GHz
16GB RAM DDR4 3200 MHz
GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
SSD 850 EVO 500GB + HDDs
It has been some years, but I don't really play triple A games and haven't noticed any performance issues. So I'm content with my specs. :)
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We've got similar stuff, except the CPU. I don't struggle with mine yet. I do play some AAA games, but at this point, I avoid most of the games that can't run well at at least Lower details.
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Specs on my laptop:
Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.6GHz
32GB RAM
1TB Samsung SSD
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
My mom bought me this laptop as an upgrade gift early this year since I help a lot with the family, and I plan to use it for a long time.
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Your mom deserves all the love and support. She bought you one of the best PC's on the market. 🥳
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i5-4460, 16GB DDR3, Sapphire RX 580 4GB
You didn't mention your resolution. It's a key factor in performance. I play in 1920x1200. Unless something fails, not planning to upgrade.
Fun facts:
- It's my first Intel CPU since Pentium MMX (~1998). I know AMD is awesome right now, but when I switched from Phenom I think in 2017 I was so happy about low TDP requirements, low temperature, fans always quiet!
- I bought my RX 580 for 104.00€ on Amazon in 2019, right before crypto craze. For some reason RX 580 is great for mining Ethereum. I could sell my used card for 250€ right now. Fuck cryptos.
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I've got a 2560x1440 Ultrawide LG Monitor, so I do have some issues because of the monitor running on 1440p. It might be an issue of performance maybe? 🤔
That's some crazy facts! I remember having my first Pentium 2 as well, but I can't remember the year when I had it. Then I had an AMD one, that I switched to Intel as I got a better understanding of how PC worked. Back then Intel was a lot better than AMD and I remember AMD struggling with overheated processors. That's why I kept at it, although in the long run, I may consider switching to AMD.
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I saw a couple posts about builds nearly as old as mine, and I'm planning on an upgrade currently, so here it goes:
Original setup from 2011:
Intel Core i7-2600K
ASUS P8Z68-M PRO
16GB DDR3 RAM (4x4)
ASUS GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II (1GB) [had to upgrade to ASUS GeForce GTX 1060 3GB Dual-Fan OC Edition in 2019]
- Plus Western Digital WD SN550 250GB NVMe Internal SSD, which I recently added after modding the BIOS, which was a huge upgrade as the HDD was the bottleneck for a long time.
I'd say that the setup served me well up until a few months back, when I had to downgrade RAM to 12GB and then to 8GB just to make the system stable. The motherboard is giving up gradually, and before anyone comments, I decided to mod it after it became unstable, not before that. :)
And now to the upgrade... I am considering a build around Intel Core i5-12600K. Plan to go with DDR4 for now, so will grab the cheapest motherboard and maybe secondhand sticks, and later upgrade to DDR5 when the pricing is reasonable. Not planning on switching to Win11 yet (already noticed possible workarounds to make performance better), but may consider that if absolutely necessary.
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And now to the upgrade... I am considering a build around Intel Core i5-12600K. Plan to go with DDR4 for now, so will grab the cheapest motherboard and maybe secondhand sticks, and later upgrade to DDR5 when the pricing is reasonable. Not planning on switching to Win11 yet (already noticed possible workarounds to make performance better), but may consider that if absolutely necessary.
I've noticed a lot of people going for the i5-12600K. I've been thinking now to consider it as a good alternative. Since I don't upgrade every time, it's nice to hear opinions. I have been considering getting a MOBO that supports upgrades for i5-i9 processors and equivalents to AMD (I am not good with the names, so Idk what's what, sorry) and that is capable of supporting possible DDR5, although it's expected for the RAM's to potentially be a lot more expensive than we expect it, but we will see.
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Was not sure about Intel 12th gen until the reviews came in, and 12600k seems far better bang for the buck compared to the i9 or the upcoming i7 options. Around 5-10% performance increase at double the price is not attractive to me, and the i5 performance seems good enough for any purpose from the reviews.
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It shows that it beats the i9 I got for my wife at the time. The i5 wasn't an option then and I did consider getting a higher core one because she was insisting that she'll use it for AAA new games for Streams and recordings, which she does.
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Yeah, the i5-12600K mostly beats out even the last gen i9-11900K, and also, I personally don't need an overkill machine as I'm not a hardcore gamer at all. Also, about your previous comment regarding DDR5 support, I read that boards will either support DDR4 or DDR5, especially unless very high-end ones, which is why I want to go with a cheap board supporting DDR4 for now.
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Do you think we'll all need a new MOBO that supports the DDR5 in the future or that's not going to be an issue?
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I read it here and you can find more details in the article:
There is a wide selection of DDR5 motherboards spread among the various motherboard makers' Z690 families, but it appears that you'll only find DDR4 support on lower-end Z690 boards. Also, unlike previous generations, no motherboard supports both DDR4 and DDR5, which is probably due to DDR5's much tighter signal integrity requirements and onboard power control circuitry.
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It seems they have two versions of the motherboard for DDR4 and DDR5. And I don't see the other version mentioned in any of the pages, so you have to choose one like the article mentioned. I'd say that if you can afford to switch to DDR5, then go for it, but in any case, if not in a hurry then let the dust settle a bit to understand the situation better. As I mentioned above, my build is not very stable now, so I'm afraid that I'd have to buy before the prices settle down a bit. And in that case, I'll go for a cheap DDR4 build for now.
Edit: Changed the links from base versions to the WiFi versions.
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I'd be good to be able to use the same MOBO and if you want to upgrade to DDR5, you don't have to worry, you just unslot the DDR4 and slot in the DDR5 and good to go.
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I had hoped that too initially, but alas, that won't be the case because they require different slots. I'd be surprised if any brand releases a board with two slots of each type.
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If they would, that would make a lot of people happy, I can tell you that.
The problem is that I heard the prices will be 30-60% pricier than DDR4 when it came out, so that's going to be a problem as I may need to either invest more, or stay with the DDR4 until they are not working.
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The problem is you'd be paying more for something half as good just for backward compatibility, which won't be necessary maybe in a year or so. As someone who is stuck with a 10-year-old MB with defective DIMM slots, I can tell you how valuable four slots are that come with a bit pricier boards. From that perspective, many would avoid boards with two slots of each type, while the boards will definitely be pricier to make. Don't get me wrong, I can see how it seems like a valid option as I am also not considering DDR5 right now, but even then I don't think I'd end up buying such a board myself. I'd rather buy a cheap board with 2 DIMM slots.
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I gotta think it through, if I want this to carry me in the next 10 years, I am pretty sure that DDR5 may be the best option at this point.
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Yeah, you have to make a decision about which gen RAM to choose. As I said above, if you can afford DDR5, you can upgrade straight to that, otherwise, you may want a temporary DDR4 build. Also, you'd have to think through another choice between Win10 and Win11. Good luck on your choices. :)
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I don't think I'm getting Win11 any time soon. I don't see yet as many recommending it, so I'll wait until more features show up. Did you try it?
I may wait and see by mid of 2022 or something.
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No, I didn't, and I don't think it is ready yet... as if they just put it out half baked. But anyways, the catch is that only Win11 can take advantage of the 12th gen's two types of cores, i.e. P and E cores, by determining priority of each task. Which means on Win10, performance can be unpredictable. However, I've read that you can manually override priority for programs via commandline if needs be.
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the catch is that only Win11 can take advantage of the 12th gen's two types of cores, i.e. P and E cores, by determining priority of each task.
That must be a marketing trick to get people go buy the new Windows 11. What about Linux users?|
However, I've read that you can manually override priority for programs via commandline if needs be.
There's probably going to be a smart ass who can find a way to tweak that and make it work. 😆
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Also, I get told very often that I may not get as lucky as my current build when it comes to longevity next time, so i'd rather go for mid-range performers and upgrade maybe half a decade later than a decade later :)
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We can never know what's going to happen in a decade. I may be too old to even bother upgrading in my 40s for a new PC because I have a child and I don't have the time to play games anymore. Idk what the future holds.
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Hello friends,
Here's a question for you: What's your Desktop/Laptop Specs right now? Where do you want to be in the near future and how much would it cost you for an upgrade?
📉 My Old Dekstop PC Specs are:
📈 My New Dekstop PC Specs Upgrades are:
💸 I wanna get in the next coming months:
💷 Costs:
The prices listed and subject to change due to constant changes of the market. So don't take them for granted.
💵 SUB-TOTAL = £524.98 ($700.18/€623.88) (no GPU)
💶 TOTAL = £993.98 - £1,173.98 ($1,325.41 - $1,565.43 /€1,181.05 - €1,394.92)
UPDATE 23.01.2023: I finally got my hands on a GPU. I got an RTX 3080 and with it a PSU 750W otherwise the old PSU would risk affecting the new GPU. My setup is finally complete.
CPU: £768.59 ($951.18/€875.42)
PSU: £77.37 ($95.75/€88.13)
🌌 What do I plan to use it for?
Well, a couple of things:
Since I've listened to your feedback in the comments, I want to thank everybody who has shared their views. That has helped me to change my components and go for alternative upgrades. Thank you for your support! 🙏🏻
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