Motor Rock was revoked from my account this morning. I am pretty sure I bought the key directly from the publisher more than 5 years ago...
Edit: Seems it was renamed, files deleted from depots. In forums people who bought the game 9 years ago got it revoked... Seems to be a mass purge of the game from existence.
Edit 2: Update from dev in Steam forums, claims his acct was hacked and will reinstate game to prior owners
https://steamcommunity.com/app/263260/discussions/0/3802776599349621861/
Attention! The account was hacked (be patient, It is the only topic for a discussion)
Pls, wait for more info. Sorry for the situation!
Edit 3: The game has returned to my library!
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Likewise, bought from publisher's site...
Update: The game is back in my library!
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my best bet is due copyrights lawsuit or something related.
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Me too. And now the dev has earned a bunch of goodwill if/when he ever decides to release another game that collectors want.
If only other devs with less honorable intentions would take notice - even if they do a silly(/blatant theft), just apologize and restore the keys and they'll get some positive rep, rather than sinking online reputation forever.
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Bits n Bullets
https://store.steampowered.com/app/730180/
Go Go Bundle #34, keys were 100% good 1 month ago (barter already has the notice)
edit: thanks Support!
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Ah, glad you asked. I did get the update, quote: "F**K you, sucker"
Of course said and done much more diplomatically, but the result is the same - Humble Bundle does not feel obligated to give me replacement key because I've uncovered my key long time ago (probably more than 2 years or something)
Sure I did it, as I do uncover most of my key immediately not wanting to get the oh so sweet announcement about keys being out of stock (not to mention few cases when games where being withdrawed completely!),
Anyway, all buyers of Humble Bundle - beware. You're subject to catch 22, and unless you activate your games immediately, you're risking losing it in one way or another.
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Same here. Wonder why? Game was removed from store idk, 5 years ago?
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https://steamcommunity.com/app/511670/discussions/1/6770657417434813739/
Dev deleted the thread about the keys being revoked, and now says a restore is expected. We will see if this happens.
Paco linked to the dev's comment in that thread, thankfully a copy/paste as the thread is deleted, so you can read it and see if it makes sense to you. I didn't understand what his game had to do with having a whale and another game called blue whale and whether they are targeting all games with whales in them in his region, otherwise I don't see why he's specifically is being harassed over it and why they don't just read the titles of the products before going to him.
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maybe nothing, developer removed also his other "game" "utility" from steam 2 days ago, without announcement or warning.
and there is no whale inside.
https://steamdb.info/app/1957250/
thats why the "revoke all keys" from steam should be removed from developer side.
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i asked why my key was revoked on the official board and even wrote "thank you for any response" under it to be polite and not sound rude - and a minute later i was permanently banned from the games hub with the reason "Tired of fake accounts" :(
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Looking at the version history at SteamDB (https://steamdb.info/app/511670/history/) it seems someone is still doing ?something?
Edit: I got it from Go Go Bundle Limited #73 https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/ycOY5/gogobundle-go-go-bundle-limited-73
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Check your libraries, the game is back with a new name.
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Game is now titled MRWN(at least for now since this is the third time it's name has been changed) for those who have too big of a library to go one by one and try and figure it out. First it was MS(Test) then he went back to Marwin and the... and then MRWN.
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write to steam support
tell them that they should think about their Developer system
this guy revoke all keys just because he felt it
and some days later want to restore them.
and also banning people like he is the dictator of that community hub.
and steam shoudl change that.
so my tipp: write to support, they will NOT unlift the community ban, but they need to be contacted with this stuff.
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Mine copy from giveaway was revoked aswell.
There are more Fantasy Fighters games, it was this one:
Fantasy Fighters
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1991670/Fantasy_Fighters/
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DIG bundles.
DIG is so scammy, you never know if it's really an issue with the dev, or if it's with the bundle site selling stolen keys. Or both.
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95% its the Developer.
see:
oozesmith
Hi, Very sorry about this. I will have to consult Steam Support to see how best we can rectify this. Rest assured if you purchased the game through a bundle we will honour that and provide you with a replacement key
dev posted that.
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you also saw that that dev gave 2 times key to dig, 2 times to GoGoBundle and 2 times to fanatical ? - and we know what happend with gogobundle :) and not DiG or fanatical
and obv this dev not readed/checked his mails/contracts?
talking about maximum 30% discount, and argue that its now 97%, because its in an bundle ? and same time selling for 90% on Fanatical.... - thats what this Dev not writing eh?.. (0,29€ -90% bei Fanatical 8.11.2017)
anyway selling a 9 Euro game to "Grey market sites" and selling them there for 0.99$ .. yes i would totally trust this developer.
also DiG admin say "a reason to revoke keys to „boost sales"
and this dev read and write back "How would removing my game from your store front boost my sales?"
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I know it's not an isolated incident.
You do seem quite invested in this though, which is weird.
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you seems pretty much interested to make dig-admin look sus... weird. ;-)
i had just many developer revoken their keys, also from Dig and so i contacted that dig-admin and he always was friendly and competent. and everytime it was the developer who got paid by him and so stolen the keys from the customers.(inlcuding screenshots of transactiond and emails) and most of time, the dig-admin also put some money back on the buyers of these keys/bundles.
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My own experience is that I was AFK for a while due to computer issues, and the DIG owner arbitrarily closed my account, did not provide the keys I'd bought but not redeemed yet, and his response was that it was my fault for not logging in for a few months and server costs lol.
So...YMMV I guess.
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its written somewhere, i think 12 months not logged in and the accounts get closed.
but you get an email 1 month before.
see here
Dear gamers,
It has been almost one year since you have last logged in to your account.
Accounts that have been inactive for over one year, are being removed and deleted.
If you have already logged in to your account, please ignore this email.
This is being done to avoid ever increasing server costs we incur with storing large amounts of data, which is something we unfortunately can't sustain on the long run, considering we sell games with a few cents markup.
To keep your account active, all you have to do is login at least once a year, so that we know you are still out there. No purchase or anything else is necessary.
Log in and 1 Year everything is fine.
dont see your point, not reading and reacting to emails.
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Nope. That may be what it says now, but that's not how it actually was. But hey, keep supporting the criminal. That's all you my friend
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From the discussion thread the people who commented saying that it was removed from their library all have the owned game icon next to their name, so it seems all of keys are restored to accounts.
From reading what the dev said he was trying to deactivate any unused keys out there and this is the result. It seems like it was an accident, honestly.
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yeah, and thats the problem.
a guy with mental problem revoke all keys of a 7 years removed game in a mental breakdown
and let the steam support restore them the next day
this dev misclicked and revoked all keys, and steam support didnt wanted to help at first. and later they did. (maybe because of the proofs)
what we learn from that?
steam should deactivate the feature for Developer to revoke all keys without Reason and without cornfirmation from valve. this is BS system.
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It was likely a review copy. The dev probably found out that their keys are being traded instead of being used for review purposes. If that's the case, no wonder they were revoked.
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I remember when this happened - 8 Floor revoked keys from this bundle (with their own company name on it!) without warning, and it was a mess for a while with 8 Floor and maybe some Jetdog Studio games as well? I think there were a couple of bundles where the 8 Floor/Jetdog stuff was mixed. If I'm remembering it right they revoked from some bundles but not others, even. I was always a little vague on which games were revoked and which ones were left whole.
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8 Floor revoked all of their unused keys at some point. From all possible sources, not just that IG bundle.
I also had some keys purchased from publisher directly, even those stopped working.
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PSA: Star Valor keys from DIG / DIG Bundle 1428 have been revoked by the dev. DIG had no rights to bundle the game.
Full discussion here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/833360/eventcomments/4030224579612870222?snr=2_groupannouncements_detail_
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never trusted Dig glad you stopped posting about their bundles
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Granted this dev thought he gave DIG the keys to sell at full price($25) with a max 10% discount. Don't get me wrong, but how many games at $25 does dig sell? Not sure what their contract actually said, but this wouldn't sell even on fanatical, humble, indiegala for $25 as the user can just buy it from steam at that price. If it was $13 maybe I'd see some copies on those sites, then for like $2 on dig but no more. I can't help but feel like the dev knew very well what he was doing. It's rated 3/5 stars of 1 review on fanatical from a 1 year release and 90% on steam somehow?, which I highly doubt are keys at $25, especially when the dev was happy to sell people the game at $3 through some discord chat. Most top reviews steam to be criticizing dig, promoting the dev for being active, but not actually taking the game in consideration. So inflated score too imo.
PS: didn't have this game anyways, I just did a bit of research and figured some things don't add up.
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Surgeon Simulator:
Freshly revealed key from Fanatical's Indie Legends 3 was duped.
Another key, from an unknown bundle with the same subid (48978), was also duped.
Two keys from Indiegala's Gameplay Giveaway (subid 27173) were duped as well, but this has already been reported on barter.
Given the first two keys' status, it's possible some batches have been revoked by the dev.
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Any idea if the giveaway was the one from May 2019? or the one from Oct 2022?
Edit: I tried 16 keys from Oct 2022, all dupe. I don't have any from May 2019 to try.
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16 keys?.. Now I'm wondering how you found so many..
Nobody trades such an amount (plus it goes against your trading "code" for profit) and nobody would give you so many keys to try yourself.. (unless it was a close multiaccounter "friend")
Intresting how somehow nobody commented on this so far.. Makes you wonder ^^
Edit: Btw, it's in your library already. Where did you even tried the keys?..
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None of your business really, is it? This website is for giving away extra games you may have.
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It is when multiaccounting and level pushing is against the rules.
Usually, if something like this happens in one place, it happens to all. Same for the dev keys and their promos. There should be a separate category as they already gain free advertisment.. Gaining and level (from free obtained keys) is unfair :)
And no, the site is for gifting. Not only extra copies.. You can buy for others too to gift it. Of course, it has shifted to many things beyond this.
Same goes for revoked keys (the "none of your business"). Faulty keys = mark as not received and move on. No discussion is needed as having such a mark means nothing.
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16 keys?.. Now I'm wondering how you found so many..
Nobody trades such an amount (plus it goes against your trading "code" for profit) and nobody would give you so many keys to try yourself.. (unless it was a close multiaccounter "friend")
Intresting how somehow nobody commented on this so far.. Makes you wonder ^^Edit: Btw, it's in your library already. Where did you even tried the keys?..
Thank you for leaving a comment here, this way not only the people on Barter Discord, but also the whole SG community will be able to see your true colors.
I really don't know what your problem with me is.
In December 2023, you denigrated me for no reason on Barter Discord, you even came up with a text filled with a bunch of lies about me and sent it to all your friends for your own personal fun. You and your boyfriend insulted my work on SG multiple times. According to you I only copy from GG.deals and paste the subs that others list in the comments. It really doesn't matter that GG.deals or ITAD publish their entries later than Barter or SG, nor that a compiled list Mystery bundle drops exists only on SG, you only believe what fits your personal vendetta, and completely ignore the facts.
Now you're back at it again, with new unfounded accusations.
The 16 keys from 2022 were collected over multiple friends. It was a mass giveaway and having multiple keys from a giveaway is not something out of the ordinary, especially when it's being given away so much (at least 3 separate giveaways until now). Having multiple keys from a giveaway doesn't mean that you actually do something with them, I have a lot of keys that just collect dust on my leftovers list. A simple look at your tradables list on Barter shows that you also have multiple copies from giveaways, even from Fanatical ones which are considerably better than a regular gleam.io giveaway. For example, you even have 2 copies of Streamer Life Simulator from the recent Fanatical giveaway, and that one is really worth quite a bunch compared to Forced Showdown.
Nobody trades such an amount
I completed exactly one trade on Barter with this game. The trade happened 4 years ago in April 2020 and the only key I had from the 2019 giveaway was used for it. This is why I wasn't able to try any 2019 keys. The value of the game I received is $0.50. I don't know what profit you imagine here. Aside from one key that I gave away on Jan 2023 (0 CV at that time), the keys that I had from the 2022 giveaway remained unused for years, otherwise how would I have been able to try them now?
Intresting how somehow nobody commented on this so far.. Makes you wonder ^^
Hard to believe, but apart from you and your boyfriend, I don't think anyone is actively trying to come up with lies and unfounded accusations against me just for their own entertainment.
Edit: Btw, it's in your library already. Where did you even tried the keys?..
On my father's Steam account, he doesn't own the game. Family members can also have their own Steam accounts - shocking, right?
(before more accusations: he doesn't use SG).
The most probable reason for this hateful comment towards me is that Barter staff declined several of LuckyStrike1305's offers yesterday due to value and quality difference. When this happens, they like to take it out on me as an act of revenge because I am one of the co-admins on Barter.
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You wrote about Lucky and her boyfriend, getting 2 keys with 2 users/accounts on fanatical, which doesn't sounds unusual for me and as they followed the site rules for the freebie on fanatical.
Getting 16 keys of a freebie (from the same date) does sound much more unusual.
And in the end what did you want with 16 keys for the same game ?
When they lay around for years and only collect dust it shows that the (not endless) lifetime to gather them were wasted.
But this are only my 2 cents to the freebies.
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https://barter.vg/u/38b/o/5784140/ GO SCAM MORE PPL WITH MOD'S ABUSIVE POWER . all we know you are behind that bartbot thingie to scam ppl with your friends . when this trade happened MAKE WAY WAS JUST A CHEAP AF GAME IN YOGSCAST , RIGHT? LIKE BARTBOT COMMENTED AT THAT TIME . NOW HE(???) COMMENTS TO ME AND OTHER USERS ABOUT CURRENTLY BUNDLED GAMES WITH PREDICTIONS FOR VALUES IN THE FUCKING FUTURE . PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP LIKE YOU DID ON DISCORD BACK THEN :) (BOYFRIEND HERE)
YOU CALLED ME RIGHT? LETS SEE WHAT YOU AND YOUR BARTBOT WILL WRITE AGAIN . SCAMS AND LIES EVERYWHERE!!!
leaving the rest to be answered by gf , spoke for my place (barter)
you are just a miserable "net queen" - "diva" , whatever for brainless.
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"You are very well liked here because you make some legwork most are bored to do" from https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/Dgscb/a-list-of-games-whose-unredeemed-keys-were-revoked/search?page=19#0NnOWnO
A perfect example!!!
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Everyone gets the treatment he deserves , don't cry lapdog
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Yeah, call cg to sue me for going to the kitchen to eat and a house member sat in my place for 5 min :D
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This is a very interesting approach to make this a spam topic and try to bury it under random statements.
It would be awesome if you actually knew what you were saying.. But you don't :)
At first, I was thinking to explain this to you, but I won't :) Feel free to create a topic and ask more information.
The thing is.. I don't need to "prove" anything to you or waste my time on nothing. I'm tired of random "barks" eee "meows" :)))
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This is a very interesting approach to make this a spam topic and try to bury it under random statements.
It's you who derailed this thread from its original purpose (a list of games whose keys were revoked).
The thing is.. I don't need to "prove" anything to you or waste my time on nothing.
That's interesting, the same should go for sensualshakti and her 16 keys for a revoked game.
It would be awesome if you actually knew what you were saying.. But you don't :)
I know, I know, I was wrong, you're always right :) :) :) ^^
PS: Calling someone "barteediot's slut" should tell us everything we need about you ^^
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Offended much? Right in the feels?
I guess you love reading half the stuff and you understand even less. I shouldn't had expected anything more. Ring up a few more bells Pavlov!
Degree of relevance and context are a thing. You wouldn't know anything about it. Perhaps you wanna go gift another 16 keys that you got from friends (or yourself, if you're feeling generous) and help out this noble cause?
Interesting seeing an animal lawyer.. Too bad you can't do anything
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Oh I see all hell broke lose.. Oh well.. Whatever.
Can you keep the crap for your crowd?.. I asked you a simple question that has a lot to do with steamgifts. But dunno, perhaps you are trying to throw me under the bus to deflect the question and as to not shatter your image? You are very well liked here because you make some legwork most are bored to do. You take data from users and put them in 1 place. Your friendlist is endless and the majority is frowned upon.
"you only believe what fits your personal vendetta, and completely ignore the facts."
I only asked how you obtained 16 copies of the same game in 1 account :) Nothing more :)
"For example, you even have 2 copies of Streamer Life Simulator from the recent Fanatical giveaway, and that one is really worth quite a bunch compared to Forced Showdown. "
2 people can't have a different acc? So what?
Also, I don't care for the value of this game. I care for the fact that you have and tried 16 keys of it and as you said it they are yours. Trading for them is insane by your words as they are low price and I doubt many people would throw keys to you to try them instead of trying them themselves and letting you know what happened.
You really hurt yourself while trying to paint me the villain.
"I completed exactly one trade on Barter with this game. The trade happened 4 years ago in April 2020 and the only key I had from the 2019 giveaway was used for it. This is why I wasn't able to try any 2019 keys. The value of the game I received is $0.50. I don't know what profit you imagine here. Aside from one key that I gave away on Jan 2023 (0 CV at that time), the keys that I had from the 2022 giveaway remained unused for years, otherwise how would I have been able to try them now?"
I don't care what you do with your trades. Although they are totally unfair, it's not a discussion for here. I care about how you obtained 16 keys (and you posted it yourself) of the same game with 1 account.
The profit I mainly mentioned here was for the sg level and free advertisment. And ratio is a thing too you know..
But then again, the majority of your level is developer keys (when you gift them anyway..).. Mine isn't
"Hard to believe, but apart from you and your boyfriend, I don't think anyone is actively trying to come up with lies and unfounded accusations against me just for their own entertainment."
Don't start going personal with me :) I didn't call you out on your life ^^ I recall calling out being against the rules you so much cherish.
I didn't lie or accuse you of something.. Not was it a hateful comment.
Like I said above: "I only asked how you obained 16 copies of the same game in 1 account :) Nothing more :)"
As for the community and my true colors, my friends know me. I don't hide behind a crowd like you nor get knights in shinning armors to do my part for me. I have always been honest and I'm pretty disliked for being vocal. Scream and kick all you want.. But the FACT remains.. I only asked 1 thing.
"How did you obtained 16 copies of the same key from the same ga using 1 account".
If you aren't multiaccounting on SG, it shouldn't matter replying to this :)
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I never boasted I farmed dozens of keys from that giveaway, just that I tried activating several to make sure that they were all revoked, as I have told you above:
The 16 keys from 2022 were collected over multiple friends.
I am certainly not multi-accounting on SG.
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"Edit: I tried 16 keys from Oct 2022, all dupe. I don't have any from May 2019 to try." That was your original phrasing.
Ok, it's nice to have 15 friends that all keep keys for years and then give them for you to try on your father's acc as you said below :) I think you work of collecting gg.dleas info and user info in one place is worthy of such treatment! It's so innovative and useful and we couldn't live without it!
I surely believe you have 15 frends on the fly that in such a short time open handedly gave you the opportunity to help sg even more for a worthy game!
Just remember that not everyone fall for tricks. Good luck with your lists and developer ga's ^^
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I mean if you don't care about the lists and don't see how useful they can be...
...just don't use them? There's literally a relatively new "hide thread" option.
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Exactly, also "...It's so innovative and useful and we couldn't live without it!..." sounds weird looking at the poor devs spammed by this incompetent "curator" https://steamcommunity.com/id/7h5//posthistory with its copy/pasted revs.
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And on your next comment bring up my school, music tracklist and favorite food. They are equally relevant xDDD
Nobody is getting spammed by 1 post. And of course it's the same when I'm asking for contact info lol
But I'm curious.. Copy-pasted reviews? Where do you see that? I don't review by using the game descriptions or copy-pasting other people reviews. Unless copy-paste means something else in your head? Or perhaps you mixed the copy-paste contact info request with the reviews?..
But yeah, that's so relevant with 16 keys of the same giveaway that only allowed 1 copy and steam gifts :D
At least I don't gain level by "gifting" dev keys. As if the the free promo and advertisment weren't enough.. SG should had a box to click that X copy is a dev key and those shouldn't be counted into stats. Or they should have a seperate category only visible to their profile and nothing more. Because reaching crazy levels for free is cheating. And they write it and on their ga's!
Edit: Perhaps you are jealous that I have more followers and reviews in 2 months than you have in 5 years?.. And without any promotion or ga's
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the only thing relevant here is how irrelevant and pointless your original comment was. you are NOT a mod, you are NOT the "SG police", you are NOT anyone relevant to enforce the rules here. you are just a random member here like 99.9% of us, so keep your irrelevant opinions to yourself, instead of throwing random tantrums that arent even relevant to the topic itself and instead of saying "you are all a sheep, I'm the one who's correct here".
grow up, it's time already
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I didn't say "all are sheep" :) But perhaps I stroke a nerve?..
We are all members :) Even the mods :)
Asking a question in a forum is allowed ^^
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nobody's mad here, I'm saying ur initial statement is irrelevant and calling people sheeps because they are defending someone is stupid, end of the story
and you know you didn't just "ask" don't try to down play what you did here
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That's a colossal waste of time but fine.
My initial question doesn't have with adding a game to the list. It is relevant for the site rules and fairness. It's justified to go off topic so I can notify the poster. If I open another topic about this, I have no way to notify the user.
I don't call them sheep because they defend someone. I call them sheep when they blindly defend someone or when they are called to comment like lapdogs.
Oh, I'm not downplaying anything.. I merely replied in 1 post in the tone and way I got answered to :)
The rest is nothing but debunking lies, accusations and "attacks" from "randoms" (in more than 1 way).
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"Oh, I'm not downplaying anything.. I merely replied in 1 post in the tone and way I got answered to :)"
I see I got your feelings hurt, you don't have to project it you know. and also
"That's a colossal waste of time but fine."
you just described your whole comment section and contributions on this thread. congrats!
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No, my contribution is something you can't even fathom.. But that's ok. Not all can understand everything.
And it would be beneficial if you stopped projecting. Regardless, unless you have something useful to comment, don't expect another reply on your random remarks.
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This person is just.... eh.
Some moderator also closed a trade they sent me for unfairness, for which they in turn insulted ME, on which I commented that it wasn't even me who declined their shitty offer, and now I have a beautiful comment from them on my Steam profile, which I reported to Valve.
Maybe it helps to make you feel not alone.
I just blocked them on all possible channels and moved on with my life. In the end they are the one with the shitty character and so probably with the shitty life, hehe :)
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The problem is that you are a helpless sheep who needs help even on net....You'll call lilly and steam in your real life too? The fact that people like you give "power" to "internet shepards" it's just sad.
Also here's the trade your beloved mod did : https://barter.vg/u/38b/o/5784140/ .
Oh I know....You'll be unable to answer as a part of the herd....dog will bite !
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there is nothing really wrong with that trade like you think there is.
1 game from jingle jam(which would be unknown if it was expiring after the year ended) for a game from an indiegala bundle that had already passed(with likely a higher aftermarket value than today), both of those games would have had similar value at that time.
you can't use todays aftermarket values for something that happened many months ago, especially with jingle jam stuff... wasn't uncommon to see people offering 2-3 games from the Jingle Jam for games worth $1 on grey market.
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Make Way at the time this trade happened had 11 euros grey value and the the other game 0.65
+it was one of the bundle headliners as a just released game at that time and not just a random addition to that.
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you are completely ignoring that the Jingle Jam had basically just started so the aftermarket hadn't had time for its values to drop to what its actually worth, and that it is 1 game of 80ish in a $45 bundle, aka close to 50 cents a key. Aftermarket takes weeks to reflect actual aftermarket game value when a new bundle drops.
so even giving it a higher % of value in comparison your still talking an actual trade value of $1-2 at best, factor in the unknown if the key will expire at the end of the year(as no guarantee keys would be good after that) people wanted to offload them ASAP pushing it to an even lower value before they get stuck with a potentially expired and unused game key.
just because its new doesn't mean it was a headliner, a high interest/value title, going over discussion threads on reddit(basically nobody looking for it on r/gamebundles, practically 0 mentioning it on r/gamedeals... which is saying something for a newly released game), as for on SG sg(basically 0 mention of it in the discussion to(all I found was keys now available, subID and keys verified working after the guaranteed date)), then looking at group buys on steam(profiting disallowed here)... .07 Euro for Make Way(both host keeping and bundle splitting it to others that aren't the host, .7 Euro in bundle leftovers(couldn't find anything in freedom dollars... not that I looked hard at all).
overall it had very little interest, even one of the actual headliners(The Entropy Centre) was only trading at roughly $3 value, and going for $1-2 range in splits.
also look at all the other completed trades for Make Way on barter... numerous trades in the 50 cent to 2 dollar value range(for the ones easier to determine)
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"also look at all the other completed trades for Make Way on barter... numerous trades in the 50 cent to 2 dollar value range(for the ones easier to determine)"
check the barter trades for any game out there then , ANY game has been traded for ANY value , depending on the preferences
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That's what Lilly thinks of you and all the sheeps , perfect pic!
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Steam speaks directly in the rules that you can have more than one account. Is this news for someone?
And what is wrong with 16 keys? If you wish, you can get them in 10 minutes, it's not 16 million keys, only 16. Do you have a buddy who (where he could) raise his level with hundreds of keys for some asset flips, you are not surprised, but someone can surprise you with the whole 16 keys? So easy?
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Asset flips should be set 0. But imo generally nothing should be set to 0. I don't believe that any game is worth 0. But that's another convo.
My issue here is that a person that keeps talking about not trading and taking profit from developer keys and freebies or use multiple accounts, just said that had 16 keys of the same ga key.. Yet when someone even has 3, is tagged by the majority of the site as multiaccounter and abuser. 2 different measures for the same thing = unfairness
And with 16 keys it's not 1 or 2 or 3 accs.. And multiaccounters tend to not multiaccount only in one place.. Sad.
hence my comment
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So, simeone got 16 keys to try something when the problem was discovered. And reported it so that others would know. Did a good job. Eere we can read it and find out. Maybe you have at least some kind of proof that something was wrong, and the keys were used for some questionable actions?
I used to also get dozens of keys to check some keys stopped working, somewhere I took my own, somewhere I asked those who have them to check too, for example Zeno Clash 2 from indiegala. it's normal, you see a problem, and you want to warn others, and you need to check it somehow before talking.
Eferything else here is similar to your classic behavior - to be a professional victim of any discussion, simply inventing something of your own as facts.
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Oh that's laughable at best! xDDD
Yeah, like 3-4 keys weren't enough.. Or if it happened to 2 people it could be reported. And ofc she tried them, she could do nothing with them. I don't need proof because I didn't accuse anyone of anything :) I said that 1 account can't get 16 keys from the same ga (that gleam.io ga - not hitsquad or feuda, lootboy etc). That is indeed a fact. And there is no questionable action because I didn't spoke of the keys use.. That wasn't the issue.
Oh yeah, great comparison! Giveaways that you can win the same key vs only 1.
I'm not a victim and let alone a professional one. Don't say bs. 1 look at me and it's enough to see I'm far from a victim. And I also never said or acted like I was.
As for the inventing part.. I stated 1 thing. That it was not possible to get 16 keys from that ga in 1 acc. Prove me wrong. Unless you are seeing facts when they are none.
Quick question: A thief is a good guy because he shelter 5 stray dogs? A killer is a good guy because he warned of a weather storm while he was out on a boat to get rid of the body?
Aka just because 1 deed is "good" (and in this case useless), it doesn't make the person good.
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This behavior is literally every time you get into something, whether you understand the issue or not. With only one argument: you are all wrong, and I am right, because I did come up with it. There is no logic here, just empty words for the sake of empty words.
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Passive-aggressively throwing shade without any proof is just ehhhh. No matter who does it.
Because I'm curious, who accuses someone of having 3 keys for something as being a multi-account user? Do they have to have all of these keys at one time? Over 5 years? Does every person who makes a single giveaway for 5 keys automatically (in your book) get labeled as a multi-account user?
I agree about asset flips.
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It's very visible when someone is a multiaccounter on many freebie sites.
And the most don't hide it because on sg not many are interested on this as long as they have a advantage or because they do the same.
With all my experiences from many years i can say that only a, tiny, minority care here for cheaters.
And presenting proof/evidences on sg is nearly not possible because the calling out rule that protect the cheaters. If they do it on sg or somewhere else.
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My point was more along the lines that backhandedly accusing Lily of being a MAU (Multi Account User) here on SG--just because she may or may not have multiple accounts elsewhere (which she has explicitly denied above)--without proof is bad form.
And if this user has proof they are welcome to make a user report.
All other things being equal, I'll believe Lily over the other user just based on "reasonableness"/tone of voice in these comments.
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"All other things being equal, I'll believe Lily over the other user just based on "reasonableness"/tone of voice in these comments."
Believe noone and go search it for yourself to form your OWN opinion.
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According to this Steam discussion, either Fanatical or the developer should give you a replacement.
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Escape 2042 - The Truth Defenders https://store.steampowered.com/app/598590/Escape_2042__The_Truth_Defenders/
2 keys tried activating today, both duplicated
1 from IG Monday Motivation #31
1 from Groupees Remute's Screaming Bundle
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Lists to use:
Unused Keys Revoked: https://barter.vg/notices/513
Revoked (Dev): https://barter.vg/notices/362
Revoked (DMCA): https://barter.vg/notices/361
Duplicates: https://barter.vg/notices/372
If you want this information for one game specifically, you can find it under the "Notices" section for the Barter entry of that game.
(Example: https://barter.vg/i/42708/ then scroll down to "Notices": you'll see the red notice "Revoked (Dev) ⌫"; mouseovering it will give you some more info)
Thanks to everyone who reported their key revocations here. Please continue reporting them here. You folks are awesome!
Due to character limit, time constraints and having to manually create the chart rows, it's very difficult to keep a list on revocations on SteamGifts. Since I am the one managing these notices on Barter anyway, I thought it would be convenient to centralize the reports from SteamGifts and trade offers into one place and Barter proved to be a good solution for that because of its bundles and game database.
The below lists will not be updated on SG any more, but all your reports will be reflected on Barter, so please continue reporting them.
Previous links, for reference:
A list of games completely revoked from your library after activation
A list of games whose unredeemed keys were revoked (the big chart that was previously in this thread was moved here)
More games with invalidated keys can be found here.
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