I have no idea. Kinda depends both on what you consider "soon" and my finances in the future, but to be safe, I'd say that no. Not very soon.
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Then I don't know if it's worth to buy an high level gpu like a 970, you'll be penalized by the cpu anyway.
You would pay a lot for something you can't use. Maybe it's better buy something in the mid range and in the future sell it and buy a new gpu...
Dunno :\
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True, true. I mean, my budget is $350, but I should have specified that I didn't mean I needed to pay $350. :P
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I have an i5 750 with a gtx 970 and I don't have many problems at all. My CPU is OC @ 3.2ghz
Fallout 4 ran fine, 45+fps at first, but got pretty crappy (20fps) in the city on max settings... so I just lowered some draw distance settings and back to normal :)
although the 970 is out of his price range, I got mine on sale for $300 US a while back
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a 970 should destroy every game, you could get the same result with a cheaper gpu, so if you are not planning to change the cpu soon, imho it's a bit wasted
anyway nice deal :3
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I wouldn't say wasted, I think buying a smaller GPU and then having to upgrade it again later would be more wasteful (of money). I doubt the price drop would be enough to make that scenario cost the same as just buying the better card now. I will get a new CPU eventually, and then later when the price drops, another 970 to run SLI :)
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anyway nice deal :3
yeah, it also came with Batman Arkham Knight... although I still haven't played it because of all the issues they were having... but I did get all the other batman games for free (WB's response to the issue) as well, so it was a much better deal than expected :)
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Well, no one knows how the gpu will get old, what is going to happen with dx12, new generations, etc...
here a 970 goes for 350€ :|
I would never spend that amount of money for something I can't use for a long time and that could be replaced by something better soon or that with dx 12 could lose a part of its value :s
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yeah I'm not sure how much the dx12 affects it. I mean as long as the game will still run in dx11 is it really that big of an issue? I am pretty sure most of the dx11 games will run with dx10 right? I haven't really done that much research on it. I think the only time it would pose a problem if the new games would just not support the old directX at all.
I hear you on the price though... I really did not even want to spend that money when I did... but my two gtx 470's in SLI just were not cutting it anymore after 5 yrs :P
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http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125685&cm_re=gtx_970_windforce-_-14-125-685-_-Product
347.82$ Ahh.... you are god damn right
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ofc it does, if its a crappy one thats 700w only on the box then you cant buy a decent gpu
your PSU is not 80% certified so its not that great, I wont say you need to change it, but you shouldnt go overboard with power requirements
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, if its a crappy one thats 700w only on the box then you cant buy a decent gpu
700W is overkill for more or less any setup that does not have multiple GPUs, or feel the need to fill your computer with flashy stuff. Heck, you might be able to fit 3 Nvidia graphics cards into that thing (but not 3 ATI ones, they tend to be considerably more power hungry).
For the record: 450W and a 960 GTX in my rig, and I still have some wiggle room.
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I'll assume it does:
PSU is a Rosewill RD700, purchased almost a year ago.
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Get rid of that. Like, right now. Those PSUs tend to die, sometimes along with half of the computer, in 1-2 years of run time. If a PSU of 700 Watts cost less than 130 USD, you just essentially bought a very nice paperweight that may or may not make the entire room smell like burnt metal eventually.
But seriously. Get rid of that Rosewill PSU before it solves all of your part replacement problems by frying your entire motherboard and everything on it. I'm absolutely not joking here, that PSU is so low-tier it is essentially a liability.
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Considering that my CPU will probably bottleneck for a while before I upgrade, the GPU doesn't necessarily need to be extremely powerful (heck, anything will be better than my current HD6450).
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Which Brand PSU and how old is it? It's important to know.
Second, GPU progression was stalled sinds 2012/2013, especially AMD just released rebranded products, in a few months however they {(nvidia and amd) are switching from 28 nm production to 14 nm, so if your not gonna play a game right away with ur new gpu.. waiting would be wise, in this case.
Or buy a cheap second hand gpu which u can switch over at the end of the year, or next year.
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PSU is a Rosewill RD700, purchased almost a year ago.
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1680 x 1050 currently. My 1920 x 1080 monitor died earlier this year (RIP).
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I'm a bit dated at this point, so there's a very good chance that i'm way off point. but I purchased my GTX 760 for around that price range, on blackfriday sale, a little over a year ago after a lot of research. I'm guessing it's around that price point all the time now because the 960 was released pretty sure that's closer to $300 usd than $200, but that's just a hunch
EDIT: I'd go with 960 having done a quick look now. they're about the same price at this point.
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well after checking the price at your region your budget might fit a 960 2gb , but try to get the 4gb cause games these day love VRAM a lot if you know what i mean
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well then 2gb i guess cause it really doesn't matter that much with 960
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What are your thoughts about AMD vs Nvidia? Do you think I'm overreacting due to the bad reviews on some games regarding AMD?
I'm not sure whether or not Nvidia would be the best decision...
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I just want to say that 380X fits your budget slighty better and NV doesn't have a card to match it. (960Ti should, I guess)
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yes, you are overreacting: i have amd cards for 10 years and never had a driver issue... but, with millions of cards both of brands in the past had their problems... recently nvidia had issues with 860m (mobile platform) and a "strange" performance drop for older cards (fermi) with recent drivers... and have you forgotten the false advertising on the 4th GB of 970 VRAM? The Batman AK trailers promising 60fps stable when the game was capped at 30fps? I can continue for hours. No one is perfect but the green side sure is shady, so trust your wallet and make your choice.. ;)
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It is partly due to NVidia Gameworks though. (A little program that makes all non-NVidia cards run bad. And no, this is not a conspiracy theory but a proven fact by now.) Where NVidia wasn't among the sponsors of the engine, AMD cards tend to match or go slightly (5-10% mostly) above their NVidia counterparts.
The problem recently was with drivers. As notorious Nvidia has been with its hit and miss (or more likely hit-miss-miss-miss-miss-holyfuckingchristthisdriverhalvedmyframerate-hit) drivers, AMD around Omega really shoot itself in the foot. They more or less (well, still a little bit less than more) fixed it, and gradually getting better again.
The actual real and greatest concern is about the power use. As I said above, before you think about any new GPU, first buy a PSU that won't fry your system.
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some great items at new egg in your price range
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%204814%204018
i would recommend the EVGA GeForce GTX 960 04G-P4-3969-KR 4GB FTW GAMING w/ACX 2.0+, Whisper Silent Cooling w/ Free Installed Backplate Graphics Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487164 it has a core clock of 1304MHz
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Unfortunately, Newegg won't show me .com links. It brings me back to the front page.
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Yeah, the 960 does seem like a decent choice in my situation.
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Either NVidia GTX 960 (the 4GB edition, don't even think about any other), or AMD R9 380X. The latter will have more edge in DirectX 12 performance than the NVidia 900 series, so it has at least an additional year (or even more) longevity. But in short to mid terms, they are pretty much close with the R9 being a little more efficient in price/performance ratio and being somewhat cheaper.
Still, your CPU won't be able to supply either of them, so no matter what you buy, you will be bottlenecked. So, the choice is more like ghow long you want this to be your primary card? If 2-3 years, the NVidia one is probably better for you. If 3-5 years, then go for AMD or wait a year until NVidia releases actual DX12 chips.
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I see people recommending the 4GB version of the gtx 960, but unless you can get it for roughly the same price, you should just get the 2GB one. There's not really any difference in performance. 4GB won't help you at all on a 128 bit bus. It's been pretty heavily benchmarked and results show practically no difference between the two cards in 99% of the cases. Also 4GB won't help you "future-proof" on a mid range card with a 128 bit bus.
As for my personal advice, if you can wait, just wait for the new generation of cards, coming somewhere around summer 2016. If you can't, then make a choice between something that is less power hungry / more efficent (gtx 960) or more raw power (380 / 380x).
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Alright, so after reading all of your recommendations and searching around Newegg a bit, I figured that I should probably go with the XFX Radeon R9 380X 4GB 256-Bit DDR5 DD BLACK EDITION OC Video Card. First reason is that it has two DVI connectors (which is a good thing since I have two monitors). Second, XFX seem to have very good support and warranty (apparently DD GPUs have lifetime warranty).
Any thoughts?
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Thats amazing, you probably can't get a better GPU at that price range unless you go used, which is a whole different story.
As far as drivers are concerned AMD recently made some changes to new drivers so if you do notice problems you can delete them and go for non Crimson ones, those have no issues, but can give slightly less performance, but it should be fixed soon.
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Neither brand fully supports DX12 now, but the current NVidia architecture is just totally not built for it. Since DX12 is a very similar low-level API as Mantle (they use similar theories), AMD cards receive a massive boost, since they were designed to run with Mantle in the first place.
if you want a brief summary, one of the articles related to the Ashes of Singularity controversy from last year makes a nice one on that: http://wccftech.com/oxide-games-dev-replies-ashes-singularity-controversy/
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I've read a few articles on the subject, and there still seem to be some debate in regards to how much more ATi cards gain from DX12 as compared to Nvidia, but they all seem to agree that it's more. There are even a few fields in which Nvidia beats ATi. Both seem to gain some from DX12 though. But currently, for future proofing, it seems to be better to go ATi.
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That's a different thing. On-board graphics can use RAM directly (without the need to first transfer to VRAM).
Discrete GPU will move things to RAM if there's not enought VRAM. But if that data is needed at any time, it must be transfered back to VRAM first (potentially needing to get something out of VRAM to make space), since the GPU doesn't have direct acces to RAM like an on-board GPU has. The graphics driver takes care of this.
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please dont give advice to people if you dont know what are you talking about
amount of memory is not even close to the most important thing when buying gpu
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I reconsidered, I think I may be going for the "red side".
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I like it over here on the "red side" as you call it. I haven't used Nvidia since 2010 when Nvidia's revolution in GPU tech ended and ATI's began (which was in 2009, but i got a pc in 2010). Still waiting for someone to win me over from AMD as Nvidia won me over in 2006 and ATI in 2009.
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It's done!
I just ordered exactly this:
Thank you all for the recommendations, I really appreciate everyone's help. I'm so fucking hyped to dump my HD6450 after all these years. :D
Obligatory "thank you" giveaway
So, things are finally looking up after months of financial "bullshit". I can finally afford to get a GPU upgrade, but I'm not really "with it" when it comes to graphic cards (I mean come on, I'm still with an HD6450). I know that I can count on you guys to find some good stuff which I can then compare, examine, and consider.
Here are the important things and stuff:
Go wildSuggest away! I'm not gonna lie; I barely know anything about GPUs so I'm leaving this to the "experts". Go easy on me and explain stuff like I'm three years old.Comment has been collapsed.