What do you think about leaches on SG?

So the beef is the user wouldn't agree to delete the giveaway?
It's actually on you to provide a working key, and that user has no obligation to accept the GA deletion

ALWAYS agree to delete a giveaway if the key doesn't work. That's básic decency.

ALWAYS say thank for the game, not matter how big or small. That's also one of my "laws"

I am lucky, only happened to me once that the winner didn't agree to delete the giveaway.

It sucks, but as far as the rules go, the winner did nothing wrong. You are not allowed to make special requirements on a public giveaway.

If I were the winner, of course, I would have been more understanding about it (because, it's a free game, who am I to make demands?), but in the end a "not received" on your account is really meaningless anyway. Nobody here thinks you're making fake giveaways.

The group "Lootboy SG" has a rule that requires the winner to agree to delete if the key is bad. That is where I've been dumping those questionable keys lately.

When you create a giveaway, it's your responsibility to provide a working, unused key. And nothing is stopping you from buying a new key and giving that out to the winner.

1. The word is "leech." If you're going to insult someone, at least spell it correctly.
2. The winner is under no obligation to agree to anything. If you want to give away shady keys, it's all on you. Be prepared to take the Not Received and quit blaming others.
3. No one was "smearing" anything (except possibly you, with this thread). The winner was following the rules as written in the guidelines. You were the one not following the rules by expecting him to allow you to delete the giveaway. That's a "special rule" and not allowed.

Leaching is the process by which component elements are pulled from another substance by the movement of a fluid.
Leeching is the pulling of a resource, vitality, or essence from a living organism; An act of parasitism.

Related concepts in a sense, but not exactly prone to being interchangable.

That said, you're breaking rules by calling out [if you don't remove all mention towards that giveaway, even in vague reference, you're risking a suspension], and the user in question wasn't acting inappropriate in any way- well, other than their second comment, which is a bit bizarre. For their other two comments, they civilly presented their own perspective and their intended plans, without any directed or hostile commentary.

Was it possible that they were impolite and ungenerous? Yes, certainly. They failed to respond to your first reply, and their final oomment failed to approach you in a direct manner, and could be interpreted as being tinged with belligerance and potential entitlement. That, however, isn't exactly in line with being a "prick".

From what little is expressed, and given the politeness of the first reply you recevied, it's entirely possible that they were just confused over the situation and were trying their best to express their perspectives (and kinda fumbled with their latter two replies). At worst, it means they had different perspectives on the matter than you and were somewhat grumpy and immature in expressing them. That'd be reasonable grounds for annoyance on your part, but still not basis for hostility or meaningful criticism.

Do note that making a public giveaway is a pretty reliable way to get users who won't abide by requests for deletion on iffy keys [there are, however plenty of groups that help enforce such requests]. More significantly, it's not like you included a warning or request in the description to begin with, which puts responsibility for any confusion pretty solidly on your end.

Factoring all things, it doesn't really seem as if you really have basis for putting yourself ahead of your winner, in terms of criticizable conduct within the situation in question. Especially not after making this thread, which has a far more emphasized measure of the traits the winner may potentially have expressed, than was offered within the winner's comments.

As far as them being a leech or not, that's pretty irrelevant to the other part of the topic. If you don't want to interact users who have ratios beyond a certain threshold, then use groups or SGTools; That's what they're for. Choosing to utilize a gifting method which allows specific users to enter, means you have responsibility to treat those winners the same as any other entrants for the giveaway.

The only time that doesn't hold true, is for extreme or exploitative users- and the site has some measure of protections against such elements. And, again, groups and SGT will help cover you on such matters, as well. The user in question isn't breaking any rules [at least, as far as their interaction with you and your giveaway is concerned], or acting out to any meaningful degree. You're the one who made the decision to utilize a gifting method that allowed them to enter in the first place. Making a thread criticizing an element of their site usage that is irrelevant to your own interaction with them, that.. well, I'd consider more carefully what kind of behavior qualifies for the label of "prickishness".

In general, you'll be happier in your life if you stop worrying about what other people are doing. Especially if those other people are not violating any laws / regulations / policies / rules.

The only rule that's been broken here is by you, with this thread.

Take the Not Received and move on.

one of the winners i had used the key and marked as not received, they were suspended. another thing i found people do is use your key right away and then wait until the last possible day to mark as received. i dont care about people leeching as much as people with 3000+ games winning things and not touching them. would much rather my game go to a person whos going to play it. back in the day i used steam gifts and didnt have any money or a credit card. gave games that i got from selling steam cards.

You are mixing two totally not connected things here.
First is leeching. Second is consent to removal of GA.
So, I will answer to different parts of your rant separately.

I don't care about leeches. If someone really enjoys their wins (no matter why - because they play it, or get cards from it, or just collect it) - that's all that matters for me. After all, we can't wait that everyone will have 1:1 ratio, if that's what you want - you're on the wrong site, steamtrades.com is what you're looking for.

And about giveaway deleting - it's really out of hands here. By rules - you are responsible for providing a game, and no, you can't force winner to agree on deletion, even if you warned them in description. So, we either need to change rules and make some semi-automatic giveaway removal system (to decrease load on support members), or just forbid deletion altogether, because it does not comply with the rules. So, in my opinion - there is nothing wrong in not being agree to delete giveaway. I would even say, in current circumstances it's good that some people not agree to that, because when I agree to delete giveaway I won - I want it to look like I'm a nice guy, not like it's just usual thing.

And, as an addition - despite of my opinion on latter topic, it's totally fine that you blacklisted user for not being agree to delete giveaway. Because, that's how blacklist works - you can blacklist for whatever reason you want, or even without one. And if you don't like person because of two topics above - you have even two reasons to blacklist him.

• learn to spell "leech", since you like to use it so much.
• check the rules. coming from someone that feels so superior to others, i would assume you would follow basic guidelines when posting content.
• from your 159 wins, you didn't play a single one. that's more ungrateful than someone with 300:1 ratio that has played at least one of their wins. guess what, you fall under my definition of leech. collectors are the worst plague on sg.
  oh you don't like to be judged? well, don't do it on the first place.

didn't want to agree to deletion of giveaway.

of course he didn't, you failed to deliver a working key. go check the TOS instead of blaming others.

Don't know what that elach wanted? Did the leach think it was entitled to some other games? or was he thinking that he can get some ganme for free....

you promised a key, and it didn't work. so yes, the winner was entitled to a working key.
you failed to deliver, so now you take a not-received like a grown up and responsible user.

don't want anything to do with those people who think being a leach here & not respecting others.

• the only one here not respecting others, is you.

if i ever produced a bad key i would never ask for a deletion from winner thats so douchey. i would suck it up and buy key for them or take the not received. be a man and take responsibility for your actions. the winner is 100%entitled to what he won

that being said i do accept deletion requests from games i won that dont work cuz im too nice for my own good lol. but honestly i check their other giveaways first. if others complained too then i wouldnt accept since they have done it before

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