Grow some and stand up for youself, otherwise your going to get bullied all your life.
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this. its wolf pack mentality, most of the time. so if you, lets say, throw one of the roof... or something along thos lines, it should scare the rest of them.
ps:
dont try this at home :D
idk, just dont let them abuse u man, just hit someone once or twice and they will give up. no really, if you dont do anything, it wont stop. they will give up as soon as they figure out ur not worth the risk, and move on to their next target.
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I can **** myself? Oh boy!
Something seems odd about asking for help with mean people in your life...and then telling those you're soliciting for help to **** themselves.
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Been through something similar back in grade school - the teachers knew what was going on and let it happen - I was left to fend for myself, and I did.
Not sure it's the best advice to give, but in my situation, physically defending myself from being attacked worked out for me - even though I was bullied nearly on a daily basis, I was able to come out of it stronger in a way... knowing I have the character to stand up for myself.
Ideally, I think it would be better if you can go to a councillor or principal... or someone in the faculty about what's going on. It's not fun to admit being bullied, but if you want this to change you have to take that first step.
Don't let them bring you down, man.
PS: Turn that violent fantasy of yours into something creative - please don't act it out for real.
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Remember you are not the only one who lives these.
When I was in high school I also went to school with these kind of stupids. It made me hate to study,school,teachers everyone exept my few friends of course family.
I didn't go to school, I went to cinema, watched films all day long. School finished and I see the only thing high school gave me is love of cinema, now i study in film school. The things I lived with these kind of bullies in high school may cause damage. For exp. I still sometimes see them in nightmares but nobody's perfect remember that.
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Ignore them/the bullying. It's a reaction they crave - don't supply them.
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Trust me on this, there's only one thing they understand: violence. Hit harder and they'll leave you alone, or even start to respect you. Show them you're a man! Yeah, I know that's stupid, but whoever said you could use logic with bullies is as idiotic as them.
How do I know that? Well... I used to be one of these assholes.
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But he said he's not tall or strong. What if the hardest you can hit someone feels like a pillow fight?
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It's easy for you to say. To just take on groups of bigger and stronger bullies. He's already fought back, and it just get's worse. He's losing his will. That's what bullies do. They take control. They beat you down (literal and figurative), they take away control so they can take it for themselves. So that they can feel powerful. They can be strong. They can have control in the world. How do you fight that? Your smaller and weaker, how can you fight even one of them, let alone several? "Will" wow, that is a nice sentiment. This isn't a movie, where he can go all Matrix slow motion and dodge punches out of sheer will. The whole point of this is that his will is being drained. How is it a viable option that "Hey, just be stronger than all of them combined. See? Easy!". That's insulting.
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Don't worry, someone will fuck up your kids the same way you harassed those poor bastards. Or even worse, think of it as VAT.
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Why are they bullying you, there's probably something about you that nobody likes if everyone's doing it. Sometimes you have to look at your self, maybe there is something wrong with your personality that started it. Also, what exactly are they doing, maybe they're just having fun with you but you're just too sensitive or take it personal.
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+1. Good points. It would be to OP's advantage to find out what the root cause is, if any. This isn't to say OP is doing anything "wrong", but the reality is that sometimes there is a real cause and effect interplay.
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Ok its his fault a bunch of dickheads are ganging up on him, sorry I dont see the logic in that. Theres something wrong with his personality that started it, are you being fuckin serious? Regardless of what kind of personality he has nobody deserves to be bullied.
@ the op, this is entirely the wrong place to ask for advice mate. I know youre reaaching out but there must be somewhere else you can do it if this is the kind of replies youre going to get.
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I thought it was a reasonable comment. I don't think pholly meant that it was the OP's fault, but there may be a reason why the bullies selected the OP, and it would be to the OP's benefit to figure out why. That said, based on the OP's tone, I can imagine he's not completely innocent.
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i can guess, skin colour/hair colour/ethnic group/taste in music/taste in movies/taste in games/taste in food/sexuality/religion/eye colour pick one and theirs the reason for you to get bullied, you might be racist/homophobic whatever and deem your chosen reason to be a fine one to bully people but bottom line the "reason" is irrelevant, bullying isnt accecptable for any reason but seen as nations up to and including russia china and the US do it on a global scale i dont see it changing any time soon and the best you can hope for as a victim is survival
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Of course there may be unavoidable circumstances. C'mon, let's not use extreme cases to make a point. And I'm not saying it's anyone's fault. But if there is a root cause that can be managed, why not manage it? It doesn't hurt to take a step back and analyze rather than immediately pull the victim card.
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the root cause is people are assholes, if he changes one thing theyll find another, for instance guy has an overbite so obviously gets teased for that, then he gets glasses(not a fashion choice needs em to see properly) and oh look new ammunition based on that, humans look for those weaker and dominate them to make themselves feel good, we dont inherenetly trust anyone thats even a little different and it shows in how predjudiced we are, we say hurtful things without even thinking, anyone i do my best not to do this sorta crap and thats all i choose to do, i dont have the energy to try and change others too hard
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I used to have fun with a magnified glass and the ants, but those little fuckers just kept running away... There is something wrong with the oversensitive ants...
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Well, based on your p.s. you may be deserving at least a bit of it.
You have three choices:
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Seriously tough, they bully you because you're an easy prey. Bite hard back once and they'll leave you alone.
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Holding his hand and saying: "It's not your fault, it's never your fault, I'm so sorry, just IGNORE THEM, and it will be allright" won't help him, now will it? That's exactly what people tell the bullied kids, and guess what: They are still bullied. He could stand up for himself - as every man should - but as he've already told you, he can't.
Giving false hope, and silly advices that are conforting won't help him. This is not a comfortable situation, thus won't have a comfortable solution.
Theese kids are targeted for a very good reason, and believe it or not, theese "dumb sensless monsters" do know it very well why they are bullying him. And as long as he is the pathetic victim he will get bullied.
And judging by the fact he is already in the "I hate everyone else" state, he needs to get his sh1t together real soon, or those morons will turn his whole life into a pile of failure spiraling into depression.
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Ever hear of the word "empathy"? Or "understanding"? Those two aren't really your strongest suits, are they? After a prolonged period of being surrounded by assholes who bully you, and authority figures / guardians who don't do shit to protect you, becoming jaded, cynical, and hopeless is a very normal, understandable reaction. To not have that reaction would be a greater sign something's wrong with you, as you'd need to have sociopathic levels of disdain for others and lack of emotive response to not be so negatively affected. His feelings are entirely human, normal, and understandable.
That's not to say there's no merit to what you said - he indeed doesn't need pointlessly uplifting say-nothing messages of hope and pseudo-"support", and he indeed has no other choice in this situation but to try and defend himself, but to outright call him - the victim in the equation - "pathetic"? And say harsh nonsense like "..because you are pathetic, hating every other human being out of sheer depression is pathetic"? That is a whole different story, and quite a nice sign of your entire lack of normal, healthy levels of empathy and understanding of the human psyche.
He's not at fault here. He's not the one initiating anti-social conduct with others. He's not the one harassing and trying to dominate others. He's not the one asking for or inviting the bullies - kids with often an assortment of mental problems somewhere on the grand old anti-social personality disorders spectrum - to bully him. You sound an awful lot like the type of deplorable people who suggest "she was asking for it by the way she dressed, the slut" when a woman gets raped.
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I stay in a boarding house full of total dicks.
"Well, can you get out of there/switch schools?"A bunch of cretins who enjoy insulting, aggravating and pushing people around for their own amusement.
"At least your ability to observe is unhurt - try to use that to your advantage!"Sometimes it happens quite often, other times only rarely. They typically go way too far and then apologize afterwords like it was nothing / blame it on each other (those two faced, manipulative bastards). They all seem to have a split personality where one minute they're friendly and the next all they want to do is torment you. The worst part is that most teachers, pupils, even some of my friends, think they are friendly.
"I agree with you. This part is actually the worst. People like teachers and parents don't seem to have a grasp of what's happening. Try to talk to them, break up in tears if you must. While I do agree with someone who posted that below, namely that bullies only understand violence and how one reacts to it, I strongly suggest not 'getting on their level' - I used to do that and I hurt someone so bad that people became afraid of me - it's actually not better :P People make up worse stories about you than they used to even.."My response to all this for the most part is to put up with it. I don't like admitting to myself or anyone else that I get bullied. I'd rather not think about it.
"Do think and talk about it - it's critical that you do. Else, you might end up doing something you'll regret forever."I've told them to stop countless times, insulted them back, even punched one of them in the face (that felt good). But it just makes things worse. Nothing ever changes the fact that they are bullies and they bully me.
"While I'm not sure what the perfect reaction would be (I highly doubt there is one), I do believe in communication, so... try the parents/teacher way, rather than insult them back - that'll put fuel in their fire :/"I've lost a lot of faith in people and human nature in general because these people have shown me how devious and two faced people can really be. It's sad i know. But here comes the really crazy part. I actually have dreams of brutally hurting them, even killing them.
"If only you knew how many people feel EXACTLY the same, mainly because of such things like bullying :P
The thing is, you cannot change those pricks. Society has already formed dicks out of them, they're already lost. The only thing you have perfect influence on is yourself! So, try to infuse your own life with positive energy, like doing activities that you crave, eating whatever the fuck you want, playing games, meeting friends in different locations/other parts of town, whatever.. Enrich your own life, do whatever it takes until you get happy :D aaaaaand with this newly achieved self esteem, you'll be able to ignore the little fuckers.
How do I know it works? Guess what ;)"in summary: I'm not very popular, not very tall or strong, i can't outwit them, can't move boarding house, can't change school, can't get away from them at all. And don't tell me to turn to someone because I don't see anyone giving these people what they truly deserve.
Advice?
"Alright, forget my question at the beginning :P Why is it that you can't change schools etc?
Oh and believe me, you probably like to THINK of revenge in all brutal forms there are, you even might wanna do that, really, because it builds up self esteem, buuuuut it would be the wrong way to deal with them. Of course, they'd deserve it, I'm sure anybody in this situation would agree. Hell, I would agree :D But it, LIFE, is about yourself, really. Like I mentioned, do whatever the fuck you like, make everything in your life about you and get happy doing things without dicks around. My personal favorite is hiking through the woods and such - it's amazing ;)"p.s. if u think this is tl,dr u can yourself.
"It is an underly (is that even a word??) discussed topic, I agree. But this is probably the wrong platform to discuss this and expect a 0% TLDR percentage :P
Like I said, turn to your parents. Really, do that. It will help yourself a freaking lot."**
Even if this doesn't help you at all... believe me, you are not alone in this. And whatever it is, you end up doing, remember that your own life should serve only ONE purpose: to make you happy. You are a human being full of potential, (I guess) you're young and would be full of energy, if it wasn't for these Hitlers, so always try to focus on your own selffulfillment :)
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An ex of mine had an aunt who died young that she loved. One of those super sweet, wise beyond her years Indonesian aunts. She had a wonderful bit of wisdom she passed down to her niece (my ex) - life is a dance, and you decide what music gets played. You decide what punch is served. And you decide who's there.
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Pay them with their own medicine. I bet they have weak points they feel ashamed about. Find them, and take the piss in a funny way in front of everyone else. Also you said you've punched one of them in the face. I'd say u need to do it stronger.
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Yes? I can do? How can I? Dunno how it works, can you explain?
TL;DR: Dont talk about being bullied (which is bad ofc) and then tell other to....
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Dont let situations and feelings repress inside you. You have two options:
And not being popular or tall isn't a bad thing. I never liked being popular, dont see the reason, either I want people to like me.
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I recommend growing up a bit...
Having a nickname that translates to sh*t smells nasty isn't funny. If you think it is, maybe it's your sense of humour they're laughing at. (Also, your profile text kinda proves me right on this)
And calm down with the PS, it's not helping you if you're offensive against everyone you meet.
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I'm no bully, believe me xD
It's just that you can prevent certain people laughing at you if you don't try to be funnier than you are. It's just some advice. Sure, it's harsh, but it works.
edit:Reading my post again, I see how you came to the assumption that I was a bully. However, I never said thatI would laugh at him for his sense of humour, I said some people do.
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Join a Self Defense class, this bullying is the universe telling to do something about it, and you have to do something, remember if you do fight back, regardless of outcome, they will lay off as you are not the easy target they thought you were.
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I stay in a boarding house full of total dicks. A bunch of cretins who enjoy insulting, aggravating and pushing people around for their own amusement. Sometimes it happens quite often, other times only rarely. They typically go way too far and then apologize afterwords like it was nothing / blame it on each other (those two faced, manipulative bastards). They all seem to have a split personality where one minute they're friendly and the next all they want to do is torment you.
The worst part is that most teachers, pupils, even some of my friends, think they are friendly.
My response to all this for the most part is to put up with it. I don't like admitting to myself or anyone else that I get bullied. I'd rather not think about it. I've told them to stop countless times, insulted them back, even punched one of them in the face (that felt good). But it just makes things worse. Nothing ever changes the fact that they are bullies and they bully me.
I've lost a lot of faith in people and human nature in general because these people have shown me how devious and two faced people can really be. It's sad i know. But here comes the really crazy part. I actually have dreams of brutally hurting them, even killing them.
in summary: I'm not very popular, not very tall or strong, i can't outwit them, can't move boarding house, can't change school, can't get away from them at all. And don't tell me to turn to someone because I don't see anyone giving these people what they truly deserve.
Advice?
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