Not that i can afford it right now but just asking ahead.

So with the first card you need a water cooled pc?
The second is okay for an otherwise air cooled pc? however but do i have to worry about galvanic corrosion, leaks etc?
And would it be much more silent compared to for example the strix (which has a quiet bios).

I don't care about slightly more power, silence is priority.

https://www.alternate.nl/GIGABYTE-AORUS/GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-XTREME-WATERFORCE-WB-11G-grafische-kaart/html/product/1500105
https://www.alternate.nl/GIGABYTE-AORUS/GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-XTREME-WATERFORCE-11G-grafische-kaart/html/product/1504337
https://www.alternate.nl/ASUS/ROG-Strix-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-OC-edition-grafische-kaart/html/product/1486350

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The first one you can use if you already have a watercooling.
The second one is a water cooling by itself. So yes, you can use it in any pc (if you have enough space).

The second one CAN be more silent than the third one but it depends on the pump and the fans that are used.
In idle the Strix will stand still but the watercooling still needs to run... So in idle the strix is more quit.
On load... hard to tell tbh. I don't think it will be that much of a difference. A watercooling is not something that you use when you want to have a quiet pc. It's more like you can transport more heat much faster out of your PC.

So it's more about OC and stuff.

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Thanks, yeah there really isn't much test (decibel) info on the waterforce cards
On load is what matters as offcourse you want to play a game with such a pc and card from time to time, and when you have some reviews saying "Oh well with a headphones on you won't hear the card at all." but yeah what if you want to play without your headphones…

With fans you also risk the chance on coil whine, which seems to be a total crapshoot these days.

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Coil whine has nothing todo with the cooling. It can happen on any card.

But: from the brands I would never buy an gigabyte card again... I had two of them and needed to refund them because they made some strange noises from the fans... (not loud but strange).
EVGA or Zotac are the brands I prefer on Nvidia. On AMD it's always Sapphire

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I know it can happen with any brand/card, but i thought if you gonna replace it with water cooling (you still get 2 fans though with the second option).

Well i read the stories about EVGA cards setting fire (on several) ;), the ASUS strix i read was found to be the most quiet one overall, especially in it's quiet bios (but all sites test differently and what's silent enough for one person can still be loud for the other, it's subjective), and i have an Asus ROG Maximus X motherboard i got no problems with.

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the coil whining is not comming from the fans. :)

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Its actually the capacitors isn't it? Very interesting (and annoying) when it happens. 2 of the same cards same brand everything, one might do it and the other wont.

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This is why I'm afraid of water cooling.

For me water + electricity is a bad mix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6278v9TF6Uo

And about the noise if your PC is on the ground and not on your head level and you play games I don't think you will notice and sound from PC as you will be focused on the game sounds :P

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That's exactly why i didn't go for a water cooled pc in the first place. ;) Overall think it's better to just go with the Strix, cheaper too.

The pc is on the ground, i borrowed my dads 1070TI and you can definitely hear it (even in a Be Quiet 200+ euro case).
I am just so so sensitive to sound, i could almost hear a pin drop. :P

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Oh. You must be very sensitive than. I have Radeon RX Vega 56 and had GeForce GTX 970 before and never had problems with the noise.

Maybe a good option for you would be to play in headsets?

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Yeah it's "fun" when it makes you wake up to stuff like birds chirping 5:30 in the morning.

2 fans or 3?

That would be something to think about it, but another quirk is i don't like to have (much) stuff on me, like if i go shop i just have cash/card in my trouser pocket instead of a wallet each time, i don't wear watches either.
I do wear glasses though, but because i have to. maybe i just have to get used to them.

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I have 2 fans on GPU.

But if I were to build a new PC now I would put 3 fans in front to suck all the air in, get a GPU with 2-3 fans on it and have 1 fan in the back to push air out and 1 fan on top to push the air out.

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Get a noctua nh-d15. ;) Some will say they look ugly but mweh.

https://www.quietpc.com/nh-d15

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I have SilentiumPC Fortis 3 HE1425 v2 :)

For me all the air flow makes the difference.

If you worry about sound I think you should play only in headsets. That way your PC will be happy to have great temperatures and you will hear nothing other than the game :)

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I've considered watercooled cards in the past, but since Nvidia always limit the OC capability i don't think it's worth the gamble (Pump noise, potential leak, pump and liquid lifetime...). Just my 2 cents.

I would rather check site like Gamers Nexus and look for the best fans on this generation, usually some cards from Asus and Msi leads in the noise department.

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So an Asus Strix. :)

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Judging by this comparison it seems like the Strix is doing really well. Although i've to say i usually prefer Gamers Nexus comparisons because they give us all the infos needed, RPM, dB, temps... which makes it a fair comparison in the end, imo.

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if you is italian and have good internet speed and don't care about competitive or mp,consider also to save your money and use just geforcenow nvidia beta services for run all games you own on steam at max graphics 60fps for free without any gpu (also must check then if google stadia can use steam too as gfnow will be good too).

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Thanks, speeds are okay but i really prefer to just own my hardware, and even with good speeds you can still have lag. ;)

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Lag I can assure you not have is very very good same local gameplay for me,but yes without doubt own hardware is better,the problem is hardware is expensive and with time become obsolete,need storage,need thermal paste change and dust remove,etc etc with stream all this is the past but ok I unDerstand you ;) enjoy he ;)

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if you have money to burn you could try to get an asus rog matrix card with integrated AIO watercooler.
doesn't really get more ridiculous. and expensive.

back in the days i considered watercooling as well but nope. too expensive to get all the parts, there's always some risk of leakage and every now and then you need to drain the loop and flush everything to keep it nice and proper. too much fucking work for old people.

also big ass air coolers are pretty, too!

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Yeah never heard of the Matrix until today, also i don't know how big the risk of that galvanic corrosion is (and hard to tell what each card vendor would be using).

Think i will just stick to air.

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if you buy an AIO cooler for cpu or gpu you don't need to worry about metal corrosion or flushing the system. they are ready to go prefilled with cooling liquid and sealed.
sadly even these things lose fluid very slowly over time through the tubing. most vendors give them about a 5 year lifetime i think. so after that you should check the fluid level and maybe refill some distilled water. or get a new one!

even a small AIO will drop your temps 10 or 20°C on cpu or gpu compared to air cooling so the cooling performance is there.
but when it comes to practical use for me...i don't know.
yeah you don't need a huge air cooler. instead you get a small water block with tubes going to the radiator. but the radiator isn't small either and it needs to go somewhere in your case.
also your pump may fail or your coolant may and will go missing over time.

a heatpipe air cooler will be working just fine in 1000 years. as long as you remove the dust every now and then with some compressed air.

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Assuming it is not a heat pipe using one since those also use some liquid (alcohol or water) in the pipes. They too evaporate eventually through the pressure hole, just very slowly.

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Yeah, i make it a habit cleaning the case of dust every 3 months, though this one weighs about 25kg so a bit more hassle then my old pc. :p

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The more money you put into installing a pool in your computer, the more gets flushed down the drain. It is probably better just to get two cards than that overpriced disappointment.

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Water cooling has its advantages, especially on a video card, which should run hotter than the CPU in everyday use.
However, water cooling is not always quieter. It still uses the same fans as air cooling; it just pushes the hot air out of the radiator instead of the heat pipe. Hence why there are water cooling solutions which are louder than air coolers.
Water cooling is quieter because it is much more effective in conducting heat, so it usually has to run on a lower revolution rate.

Water cooled GPUs are a niché mostly because you need to put the radiator somewhere, and in most cases, this means sacrificing your only back fan that pushes the hot air out of the PC case.

However, if you are contemplating on buying one of the most overpriced high-end graphics cards on the current market, I assume you have the high-grade PC case to accompany it. Also, if you are blowing this amount of money on computer parts, you should be in the water-cooling phase already. It is a more effective way to keep the PC cooler and less cluttered. They also run for the same time as air coolers, since pumps usually tend to doe around the same time as a fan (20-50 thousand hours).

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https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/1472 (200 euro case, and no i did not have money to burn but the quiet part is really important to me so i found it justifying it), i8700k CPU, ROG Maximus Hero X motherboard, Noctua NH-D15 fan, 800 watt Bequiet PSU, everything else is solid. GPU will be the last part.

For some of the reasons others here posted, i didn't go for watercooling because the chance on leaking, the work to maintain it, also the pumping noise it could make.

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When you are on that level, not going for water cooling would make almost any PC builder raise their eyebrows. I can understand not going full RGB neon since it is tacky; but in your price range, you are way past air cooling territory and should have a Corsair H100 or NZXT Kraken X62 level of water cooling for maximum quietness. With standard use, it is quieter than the best air cooler in existence (unless you are crazy enough to go for a passive solution).

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I am sure it woull raise some eyebrows with the fanatics. :p

I really care little for all the RGB, the one on the motherboard i turned off (it was also still glowing when the pc was off), even have RGB on my RAM i think, the case is sitting on the floor, so i don't see it even.

When i did research getting my new pc, i truely believe i read that a Noctua NH-D15 was near the same level as some of the best water cooling ones, unless i got it wrong?

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/284662/corsair-hydro-series-h100/reviews/ (it's dutch but some give it a minus because of the "noise".)

I am open to watercooling in the future (if it's leak proof and maintaince free (if that exist), maybe when i get that new GPU and i find things get too hot (or noisy) but if it's not needed, i'd rather not.
Also still have to delid the CPU someday, which also should decrease temperature.

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In terms of cooling, yes.
With a small sacrifice, of course. First, it is way over one kilo in weight (almost one and half). That will constantly put a large pressure on the motherboard no matter what. Second, even in less effective single-fan mode, you can only use low-profile RAM sticks with it, and with the required dual fan mode, you can kiss two DIMM slots goodbye.
It is relatively quiet at least with around 40-45 dB, although a good Kraken cooler is around 28-35.

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It is relatively quiet at least with around 40-45 dB, although a good Kraken cooler is around 28-35.

Then you are still better of with something like a Dark Rock Pro 4 which is supposed to be 24.3 dB max according to their site. And it should still be more than enough to cool a 8700k as it can handle and overclocked 9900k without any issues.

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That sounds decent, 40-45 dB i wouldn't consider quiet.

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Well, 40 db is the noise outside during nighttime. It is pretty quiet, unless for "outside" you mean living near a main street.

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Yes. Although it still has the one problem of being too damn big physically. All the super high-grade air coolers that go in that price range are just giant as fuck. Many weigh more than the motherboard you are putting them on. :D

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Can't argue with that one, when I was upgrading my PC I wasn't buying the motherboard as much based on the specs of it as on which one of them will fit this mammoth of a cooler without blocking anything :D Also if your case is too small you ain't gonna close that side panel.

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At that price point i'd just skip the AIOs and build a custom watercooled system, assuming Lugum is skilled enough to build one. Not only the final result will be tidier and aesthetically nice, but also completely modular for future upgrades.

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Eh, if he is iffy about AIOs and leakage, imagine building all the tubing and filling it up yourself. Even some builders try to stay away from kits and just try to get closed loop pre-built systems.

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You're absolutely right. I'm just stating that it's an option, assuming you have time and confidence to do it.

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If it's fool proof technical i could do it, if it's oh you can seriously fuck this up technical then most likely i would fuck it up.

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No, it's totally possible to fuck it up. Like not having the right pieces, screwing not enough or too much the tubes amd missing the right point when filling the system with liquid.
With time, patience and online guides it's possible to build one from scratch, but if you don't feel confident enough you may want to go with a pre-built one.

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800fps 32k uberhd tremor coins incoming..

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