Humble Choice is free. Issues with Humble Bundle?

yes i did, i am gonna activate the keys

Might get less GA's for the games now, great situation HB created there..

The only admin have nothing to do with adding games to the reduced/free lists.
The mods do the work.

Why would this be knife twist? Game was given out for free, giveaways before the event are reduced cv(because the game was bundled 3 days before) and giveaways after it was free are no cv, which is fair so people can't get cv they didn't pay for. You should advocate for that, because it's the right thing to do. W mod in this case.

A lot of words just to say you're chuffed you got a free handout. It's nice you got a freebie but no need to defend a company over shafting their paying customers.

I think they said it was meant for a different bundle though.

I mean I had been subbed for years with no coupons, seeing all the comments where people were bragging about their $4, $6, $8 coupons, and on June 2nd I had canceled for the first time in years because I didn't like the bundle. I checked the page to see if I got a coupon maybe(was checking multiple times in those 3 days) and saw it's free so I got it. I finally got a deal too, and then everyone here lost it's mind how unfair it is. But those who got 2x $6 coupons basically got a month for free. They just want to get more than everyone else, always.

I mean you deflected your anger at their practice of selling keys overstock and restocking later or refunding x amount of the bundle, instead of focusing your anger at what just happened. You're more bothered by something else unrelated to what just happened.

As for their practice, they've been doing it for years now, but you still go there and judge them for it. You know that's how they operate. I can find reasons to both dislike that model, as in being in a situation I can't get my key that I paid for because it's OOS, but I understand from a business practice why this makes sense, and in many cases this would be more beneficial for selling as many bundles as possible and reaching as many users as possible, therefore more users than you know benefitted from this change.

Sure they had to wait a while, but these users were eventually able to get that game cheaper than they'll find it anywhere else. Sometimes that solution doesn't work so well, and some keys that are like 6 years or whatever don't get restocked, and the user gets refunded x wallet amount. That sucks but at least you can use that during a sale.

Believe it or not, I'm mostly ok with their model. buy the bundle as soon as it releases and don't wait to redeem your keys. If it's instantly out of stock it'll likely get restocked in a few days/weeks. If you want 6 years likely they'll use their supply and have to ask for more to fill your need. There's also security risks as to why it's not viable for them to assign you a key and then have it readily available for you for 6 years. Someone could breach your e-mail login steal your old keys and you'd never know because you use humble to stash them, and clearly label them as unseen, redeem now. It's not perfect by far but it's a lot better than the charity bundles on fanatical that end super fast and everyone's sad they missed out AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN.

As for owning equity in Ziff Davis, no, and HB and IGN are private as far as I know, so no to that either.

They must be one of those weirdos who love to spend their time just enjoying getting a rise out of people while typing out paragraphs of corporate talk no one will read.

edit: I was right, time to address this.

The heck, my guy's been getting better deals than me for the past 2 years, this is unfair BS. JK.

It is not my account.

I don't get the US thing. Plenty of other places in the world would have been awake for it, I believe it was 2AM in germany. What you failed to consider is that it's a US company, so they'll work a US normal schedule of maybe 9am to 5pm.

You've created an illusion that it's US favoritism, as if they had intended for this to happen and just give it to US people only, but you blissfully ignored that it is a US company operating on their normal time, I bet your tech companies aren't fully staffed at 2am, or your bank tellers aren't all normally at work at 2 am expecting a rush of germans to go to the bank at 2 am but not at 9am. You also ignored that countries like Canada, Mexico and like 50% of the world should have been awake during normal hours, europe seems to have fallen into the timezone of 2am, but lets be honest, tons of gamers are on at 2am, getting ready for sleep entering their last giveaways, or doom scrolling reddit, so they might have seen it.

I finally got my reply. The relevant part for me is this one:

This bug has since been corrected, and we’ve taken steps to ensure fair handling moving forward. For those who were able to complete an order during that time, we will honor one of the monthly credits. However, for any additional months that may have been stacked due to the error, those will be removed.

That seems fair enough. It also undermines the main theory of a certain person who has plastered their wild interpretations all over this thread. No, it wasn't "too much work" for Humble to identify (and undo) everything that went wrong.

I've informed Humble that undoing existing stacks wouldn't be enough, if people can keep created free month gift links around.

Claiming = revealing. You used the mass claim option and selected all games manually on this page:

https://www.humblebundle.com/membership/home

You could instead have just resumed the membership here:

https://www.humblebundle.com/user/settings

"Manage Your Plan" / "Resume Membership"

That way it wouldn't have charged you immediately and of course no games would have been claimed.

"Apples vs Oranges
Equating professional writers to chronically online people who type nonsense (like yourself) is pathetic."

By those standards you shouldn't even exist. I was right about the glitch not being big enough to have leaked onto retailer sites. Even if humble let them keep the keys, users aren't selling them, millions of keys haven't been stolen etc., as prices on grey sites have maintained. I've done my research. "Professional writers" sometimes are like that reviewer at IGN who couldn't play Doom. In fact, these "professional writers" butt you adore so much are generally the ones providing fake, twisted news, to their agenda or whoever paid them. You're supposed to use your brain, read the content, and start doing your own research to see your own understanding of it. You're just lazy and developed a 1 sentence solution for this, aka "blame the cheaters, I'm unfairly treated" but you wont look more into it because jealousy and selfishness eats at you. I can't fix you, but I can point out the obvious and it's ugly. Instead of having the truth, you'd rather fabricate one so you have something to be mad about, because nothing else is going on in your life.

"Missing info You have 0 data on how big the abuse has been."

The point was that even if it was a 1000 user mistake during a 3 hour period no one knew of , prepared for or was expecting to happen, the numbers of people who claimed the choice during the first 72+ hours much larger, because of factors I mentioned. We're speaking maybe a few thousand dollars mistake to you now wanting them to pay everyone millions."

"The glitch abusers who bragged online about adding 17 months to their account might be the tip of the iceburg."

You already know the people using multiple months will end up getting banned when they redeem the second one and it's just people baiting you online and you're falling for it. Ask them for proof of their billing history and check the image for alterations, and have them provide proof this is their main acc too.

"Have a nice day. Oh and good luck with your 10 million pipe dream."

That was obviously sarcasm, but why would you get it? You're not developed enough. You missed it's point entirely, because you choose to live a lie instead.

Take care, hope it all works out for you.

Did the same, I was already in touch with them about the six month coupon ending a month early, only for them to say they could nothing about it then this happened shortly after. 🤔

Let's see if they bother replying.

The people bragging online for the 17 extra months are fkn with you because it works. People do this in cs2, they'll say I opened 3 knifes in 7 cases and a guy comes and say oh it took me 2 cases to get 6 knifes. You actually believe that shit, or you want to exploit some random comment online to try and bait a company into giving you something for free, when you advocated for them not giving stuff like this for free.

Bro, you should write a novel. I write walls of text, but you've been crazy busy in this thread. No need to respond, not going to read it.

Marius got a freebie from Humble and needs to spend the rest of the month in his words "butt-licking".

"Imagine your save gliches. When the developers fix it, you might not be satisfied enough knowing it won't happen again. You'd also like     your corrupted save to be restored."

There's a lot of wrong things with your analogy, but at least you've attempted, compared to the others who go straight to insults. I'll entertain you. Your games were never taken away from you, purchases made before the glitch never vanished, broke, disappeared, etc. They didn't have to do any fixing on your part. The fixing was done for customers who used the service when it was glitched. Their solution to the fixing was to stop it from happening, aka a fix. Can't restore a corrupted save file that was never corrupted. You had no part in this at any point of this interaction. It was between other people. You weren't there.

"I think it's normal for some people to want the keys revoked. As you said, it was a sort of glich. Not an intended deal."

Of course people can want them revoked, envy is a much simpler emotion to develop than being understanding and moving on. Negative emotions and feelings in general are much easier for us to hold onto versus creating positive ones. Even then, if they are jealous, it is irrelevant. Life is unfair, I've pointed out a few ways, but life is unfair in thousands of ways, you yourself are exponentially more lucky than someone whos crying right at this second wishing for 5 minutes of your environment. I don't see you, me or anyone else around here advocating for the people who went through some shit you can't even imagine because you're more lucky than them. You're very comfortable though talking about what's unfair to you, despite how many other things you have taken and will take advantage of that others never will. Again, wheres my 10 million dollars per letter typed? I'll agree with you when it happens. Guess that's the standard otherwise it's unfair for all of us?

It not being an intended deal is exactly what a mistake and a glitch is, it would cost them time and money to revert the process which is not going to bring anything good. They've chosen to take the easy and best way out by eating the damage themselves. Normally when a company eats the mistake you cheer, not you because you couldn't be one of the so called "exploiters" for catching a deal listed as such. Hypocrisy.

"I don't really care what happens next; I'll have something to chew on either way."

Exactly, imagine being upset a few caught a glitch for $12,, when humble has given people $6 coupons for months in a row effectively giving out 3 of these free bundles in a 6 month period or when people catch mistake 95% bundles on steam all the time. Like if you really wanted to be fair, we should revert all steam keys, so everyone loses their keys for catching deals in the past, and everyone loses everything they bought on steam for a deal better than others because it's unfair to some other people. Yet again, you're not advocating for this, you're advocating for your benefit only, not for fairness. We as a species are about 1-up-ing each other and flexing on each other versus having enough and being satiated. We're definitely the worst out of all species due to these abilities we have other species don't, which make us really ugly most of the time, and rarely sometimes beautiful.

That's why I said keep on chewing and move on, you'll catch some other deals, we'll all catch some other deals that others wont catch. It's part of life. You can't have everything someone else has and have a full 100% of every single persons experience. This FOMO effect eats away at people, just pick some things you like and go for those and develop your own 100% that no one else can copy exactly. Make your own imprint, because no matter what way you twist, turn, cry, scream, and beg you will never 100% everything.

"But why are you so obsessed with this?"

Because they're a bunch of hypocrites. Mad they missed out, when they caught plenty of deals in the past, so their expectation is that because of a few thousand dollar mistake a humble, they should now take a few million dollars and give everyone a free month, or they should spent those few thousand dollars instead of revoking the keys, paying support to answer tickets, and any other processing they have to do as part of the deal.

 "I added the fish emoji because I was expecting your response. Even though I said very little, I knew it would be enough motivation for     you."

Not expecting my response would've been surprising. I've replied to every misinformation and bad argument in this thread, including yours. Saying you added the fish emoji to fish me out when you saw I replied to everyone else who's coping is like being that one fish in a school of fish and not being aware I'm the whale that's gonna swallow you up anyways. I was already coming before you even knew it. I'm the whale, and you're my fish. I was going to eat you anyways.

Lets end it here, I'll let you reply with whatever you want and I wont reply back, because there ain't no way you have what it takes to construct a proper argument after that weak analogy you burnt your fingers on. I'm gonna move on from your comment. Have a nice day.

It's not.

It's not about being good or bad and capitalize on that or start pointing fingers, it's more about managing expectations. And when these expectations are not met, arguments are thrown back and forth, as we move further and further away from what this industry should be about, which is games, well... good games.

My mistake then, I thought it was a promotion for their plus subscribers. (Which honestly, wouldn't be too out there considering they've given free months of plus as bonuses in the monthly bundles before)

Of course they can lose money.
Planned was to give a lesser amount of free month. Which means they would have sold more monthlys. Which means they earned lesser (they always get a min. share, how ever you move the sliders).
They, surely, promise the publishers/devs a payment for sold copies or a payment, as in this case, for a monthly that is gifted for free (theoretical to a low x% of people). Or did you think the publishers give their games for free away that HB sell (and earn) more (other games from dif. publishers) in the future?
And did you think their workers didn't get a payment ?
Did you think their systems, servers, electric. etc. don't cost them something?

And because a bunch of greedy "§$"§$" grabbed, with multiple accounts, many months and pushed the free months on their main accounts, HB will lose money for the next ~2 years (this was the max. stackable amount). Each of the ones that gone this greedy route grabbed around $360 (24x monthly -maye a bit lesser when bought in a discount event but for sure at least 24 x $8, which still means $200- ).

And they need to pay taxes on it on top (which is a bit funny, when you realize they made before this a loss)

What I said is that they wont be able to abuse it in the end, as humble is already on it and fixing it. I never claimed that they can't make multiple accounts to send multiple gift links, we already knew that from the start. I clearly stated there's no way on earth humble would've ever let that pass. Others disagreed and said people were redeeming many months to their acc and now they have free humble for 2 years. Humble just confirmed it's not going to happen even if they did and only the 1 month as advertised would be given for free, the rest will be void. Like I said.

I did state, for those afraid of bot farms, that there's no way it's going to pass long term due to the complexity and how easy it will be to detect. In a 3 hour period, assuming they got in the very first second the glitch happened, they would've had to make their bot use the signup for humble, assuming they already had a database of e-mails created, if not they'd have to make those first too, then, for each account to try and make it undetectable, they'd have to switch up the ip of the connection as humble can detect a vpn, it generally takes at least 2 minutes to restart the connection and switch to a new ip, assuming you're dynamic and assuming humble doesn't collect any identifiers that you might have missed wiping, at most you would've been able to make 90 accounts assuming a perfect run. Consider people can't even get a perfect speedrun of any game after 30 years(which makes sense as there's always room to improve in terms of miliseconds), and I'm supposed to believe someone could get a perfect humble glitch speedrun from the second it was live? I don't know about that. So I doubted the account farm bots from the start. Probs a few people used a few alts they use family credit cards on to use a few links, and humble will likely trace them and eventually ban them or deny them the months as they said. Likely in july or when they redeem those months.

As for those who claimed that so many have abused this and taken so many keys, the prices on grey markets have went upwards since june 6th, with a few going a few cents lower. It's extremely consistent with any other bundle, unless they want to claim all other bundled games have been exploited like this, which makes no sense because not every bundled game ever was given for free by mistake for a 3 hour period. So that was misinformation others were spreading around without looking at any numbers. Of course, I'm here so I corrected them on that which they don't like.

Lastly, please stop getting your news from discord. Discord is a intended game chat application, trojan dispenser, meme sharer, and afk npc lobby simulator. Not a reliable news source. Those people you meet on discord that brag to you about what they got wont share you proper proof because they don't got it. I could go right now buy a 1 year sub take a pic of it, add a paid month take a pic of my 13 months and say I got a free month, I'll do another paid month and then say I got another one see the exploit works. For $160 I can troll hundreds of you into believing it's actually possible.

Like someone else said, some website posted some deal for some game and overnight they shut down. If it was that bad for humble they'd shut down, but it wasn't even bad enough for them to revoke the keys. Aka, pls for the last time, I was right. Have some faith in me you act like I want you to fail. How stubborn you got to be to just not admit you were wrong and take a step forward? I get it I can get a little heated when I see misinformation, lies, deception, jealousy, bs. If you feel more right to still believe the wrong thing, you're doing it out of pettiness.

PS: Regarding the images being maybe fake/old/photoshopped, I said

"What makes you confident it's not fake/photoshopped/old data? What if they just took the e-mail image that was posted in many locations, they already had 10 months, then they redeemed the gift link to their acc putting them at 11 months? Where did the "We will see how it goes, but so far (12/20 redeemed)" come from? Just a guy in discord saying "I redeemed 20 months" ?" I just gave it as a possibility. 

(mostly because I, like others, thought you were talking about your own account, you were kinda implying as such at first or at least you were ambiguous enough about it make us believe so, but then it turned out you were spreading what you read in a discord). But in my reply to Volcanic hours earlier before my reply to you I did also say

"You already know the people using multiple months will end up getting banned when they redeem the second one and it's just people baiting you online and you're falling for it. Ask them for proof of their billing history and check the image for alterations, and have them provide proof this is their main acc too.". 

So I did ask if these are main accounts, likely they're not because these people were waiting for a ban. At the same time, I was just suggesting they are more than likely fake images because it's so easy to fake these images for rage bait why would you not. It worked on you. The only thing I was wrong on is I expected humble to ban them when they redeem the second month, however it seems humble will just not let them activate a second month from this "event", they didn't discuss bans for some high abusers however and my guess is they're on their way. I'm guessing they'll treat them like they treat any other abusers.

Shrieking fake news then backtracking with more walls of text lol.

hope so, might be like a first warning towards ban?