We are one of the highest paying countries if you convert games to unit price
For example ;
Elden Ring Price : $59.99,£49.99
So 60 dollars per unit
We have to pay 500 TL to buy this game, that is 500 units. I mean, it's like buying this game $500.
If we are going to talk about an unfair situation, the prices in Argentina and Turkey are suitable enough for it.
Amazon is maybe the only thing we buy cheap :))
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We have to pay 500 TL to buy this game, that is 500 units. I mean, it's like buying this game $500.
Man, this makes no sense at all, just to throw the bigger number out with no monetary value linked.
60 euro is 22 035 hungarian forint, but we have a regional pricing. It would be silly to say this is the equivalent of $22 035
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i'll make it clear for you:
US wage: 5000 game price: 60
Turkey wage: 5000 game price: 500
this is purchasing power, end of the day you will pay 5x more. this is real local economy wage, different currencies don't matter coz you won't earn in dollar, you earn local, and will have to pay for whatever with it.
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Well yes but that's what happens when you buy international. If you don't want that, buy local.
Regional pricing is a purely artificial way to sell international products at local prices.
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I believe he is trying to say minumum wage of Turkey is so low (2800 tl which equals to 170 dollars) it is unreasonable that companies decide on these prices.
So it is like 2800 / 500 = almost 1/6 of a wage.
And google says The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour
So an US citizen can buy the same game working a for a day.
Of course math is not excellent.
He is just trying to measure this kind of concepts to express how unfair many things.
Also price of PC components are MSRP of US + %30 so being a agmer is really hard in Turkey game and pc parts wise.
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I mean it's about value for money
The minimum wage in Turkey is around 4253 TL
If you buy 2-3 games like this, you will spend almost half of your salary on games. I'm comparing my own country with countries whose currencies are dollars or euro. It's very unfair, but I don't blame steam or game developers for that.
On the contrary, I know that Steam encourages game developers to sell us games cheaper.
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That sucks.
It makes no sense Steam ignores this.
I have been hearing about this issiu for a long time.
Maybe someone from Balkans should open athread and bring people together.
Than other people can invite other gamers and finally they can open a petition by change.org
Might work.
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Actually not only you but the whole poorer half of EU started with differential EURO pricing after the USD days: https://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/cu658/no-more-eu-tier-2-special-pricing Valve even had an EU3 region that barely anyone used.
But apparently its agianst EU rules that break the single market so now everyone pays the same as the Germans.
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Most publishers never used it to begin with. Here are some comments from that time:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/46ebph/valve_discontinued_the_2tier_pricing_system_on/
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Wait, so thats why even older games are at a ridiculusly high base price for some years now?
And here I was clueless and doubting my memory of better prices in the first half of the 2010s!
Folllowup comments say it was never that great as many big publishers did not use it but I do remember tons of games from my old wishlist (AAA titles included) priced significantly more wallet-friendly, reasonably adjusted to local wages.
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The minimum wage in Turkey is around 4253 TL
I sympathize with you, the situation in the economy is really frightening right now:(
But just to compare the situation in our countries, the minimum wage for Russia is 12 130 rubles ($165,80)
BABYLON'S FALL costs 5000 rubles
Forspoken costs 5719 rubles
in the USA, this games are cheaper...
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Just making a correction, Turkish min wage is currently 2825 TRY ($172). It'll be 4250 in Jan 2022 and it's hard to guess it's value in USD but definitely it'll be lower than $170. So for lazy people it's 1/5 of Turkish min wage, 2/5 of Russian min wage for Babylon's fall.
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Current minimum wage is actually $172
After the increase it was $275 2 days ago, now it is already about $258, this is what people will get next year but it will most likely go below $200 in a few weeks. (Update: New minimum wage is already $237 and keeps falling).
The currency lost 35% of its value in the last month and it goes even lower every day. The president says they are trying a new economic model and Turkey will be the new China, but no one with a proper economics education has the same opinion. The economy will most likely go a lot worse in the future.
By the way, the only region Elden Ring changed its price during the preorder was Turkey. I wouldn't be surprised if they change it again.
Apple increased the price for the second time in one month. Product prices can change in a matter of hours, if you don't buy something instantly, you won't see the same price an hour later. Kind of the same thing as the price bugs on steam.
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I have one account, for 7 years I have managed to use Prime for the USA, for the UK, for Poland... now I have a Prime purchased for 1 year for Poland, although I live outside of all these countries.
You can use the same account in different regional versions of Amazon.
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For address: Google -> Best nightclub or restaurant in Turkey -> Search -> Copy address. Completed. LOL
For CC: They don't really care you can use your own cc.
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I only buy digital goods, for example I buy Steam keys (without regional locks) there for giveaways.
so I need a Prime subscription exclusively to get games and DLC from Amazon Games
PS: although sometimes I order some goods in the USA, because even with delivery from the USA to Russia, some goods are several times cheaper than buying them in Russian stores.
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You can't really use a VPN with amazon anyway. Contrary to Netflix, Amazon will detect the VPN and block you from watching videos if the VPN is active.
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I don't think that's always true, because I'm using a paid VPN and I can use it problem-free on Amazon Video when I'm abroad. I previously tried with a free VPN though and it didn't work. Perhaps they frequently compile lists of common VPN IP addresses and blacklisting them.
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Really?! I'm using paid NordVPN and Amazon will always tell me to turn off my VPN. Then again, I don't want to watch with a "home country" - VPN when I'm abroad but with a "different country while in home country" - VPN and that doesn't work for me.
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Haha damn, that must really suck I never expected that it wouldn't work on some paid VPNs, perhaps NordVPN is too popular, I always get it on my ads. I'm using a less popular one but it has a good reputation for transparency and privacy, it even won court cases against parties that asked for log data, because it has a genuine no log policy. Anyway it's PIA.
EDIT: Are you browsing the site Incognito? Perhaps they would detect a VPN behavior if you don't clear cookies
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Well, who knows. Nah, whenever I tried it, it wasn't in a incognito tab but it's not too bad, honestly, After all, there's still Netflix that works beautifully with a VPN, so there's more than enough content to watch anyway :P
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In addition, Amazon Prime for Turkey gives you 1 month Twitch Prime subscription. (Streamer gets approx. 4 TRY or equivalent exchange rate)
And also you get Free Delivery on Amazon.com.tr
All these things are only 8 TRY in Turkey. Yes, it is real.
PS: You can not buy a kilo of any fruit for 8 TRY in Turkey. (sad but true)
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That's nobody's business but the Turks!
One has to hope that the problems caused by currency depreciation help incline Turkish voters to give Erdogan the old heave-ho, but if history is our guide he'll just use it to convince his rural base that this is evidence that this is proof that the outside world is against all the great things he's doing for Turkey.
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Even most of Erdogan supporters never believed that. They just support him regardless of what he does or what he says.
Most of them do that for their personal gain. A lot of unqualified people got multiple wages or got jobs they never deserved, lots of shady or unlawful acts were overlooked.
A good example could be Turks living in Europe. Two thirds of Turks living in Germany or Netherlands voted for Erdogan in the elections, but they never consider going back to Turkey. If they believe in such a statement it means they should believe the life in Turkey is better than the life in West EU, however it seems they are just happy with the weak Turkish Lira so that they are so much richer when they visit Turkey.
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I was thinking of other current idiot leaders like Boris Johnson, Jair Bolsonaro, Rodrigo Duterte, etc.
Trump has only been president for 4 years but has managed to convince half the country to go along with everything he says despite being an incredible moron, who wanted to inject disinfectants to cure covid and nuke hurricanes to stop them.
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I went to China to study Chinese.
My dorm mate was from Tajikistan. He and his friends was bragging about Erdoğan believing he will save them.
I tried to explain what was published by Wikileaks and it they just ignored me and go back to their reality.
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Are you sure you use the Turkish version of the site ?
https://www.amazon.com.tr/prime
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I did activate it on Turkish amazon. Then I clicked the link to prime gaming from there, but it didn't automatically sign me in. So the message I mentioned previously was while I was not signed in prime gaming and confused me. The same front page message was on the prime video I visited while not signed in.
When I open my prime membership page it tells me I have free month and will be charged 7.9 Turkish Lira at the end of it
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don't they do this to verify your bank details? I feel like i remember amazon doing something like that when you first sign up (should only be like 1 cent anyway)
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Once the free trial is over, Amazon Prime is just £7.90 per month. You can cancel whenever you want.
Current amount
Updated: My fault (I used google translate and it translate the currency from ₺ to £.)
"Amazon Prime aylık sadece ₺7,90. Dilediğin zaman iptal edebilirsin."
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That must be because of the particular bank, there are some that doesn't let you do that kind of things, or buy on crypto exchanges and such. It's for "your protection".
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Imma go ahead and maybe ask a dumb question: is this only for turks?Turkey region?
Aside from the regional pricing, I've tried several times to activate Prime, back in october 2021 for the prime video, and these days for the free games (probably last year too if it were games).
As far as I know, only USA and Brazil have free trials, despite requiring a credit card for validation purposes.
Now, I was charged about 5 times, got the taxes refunded but not the validations, and yet the activation was never possible.
Im quite sure it needs a credit card based on the same region and billing address than the offer, or it just wont work. Asked Amazon support and at first they said Prime was enabled but somehow I couldn't actually activate. Then they told me I would be able to use it ONCE it expired and were charged 12,99, THEN I could use it.
Yikes, no thanks. Talked and did tests they asked for about 2 hours or so, only to get tired and ask to cancel the supossedly active membership and be done with the darn thing.
At this point I congratulate those who can use both the video prime service, the free shipping, the free games (including all those who carelessly posted their keys for ungrateful ninjas to take) while I saw that way too late :P
Cheers!
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Recently, the Turkish lira has depreciated very much, but in Turkey there is a regional version of Amazon Prime for 7,90 Turkish lira (for 1 month), which at the current exchange rate is $0,48 (€0,43)
https://www.amazon.com.tr/prime
regional subscription gives access to giveaways
https://gaming.amazon.com/home
regional subscription gives access to Prime Video
a free trial period for the first 30 days
[December 21, 2021]
now ₺7,90 = $0,61 or €0,54
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