I'm currently saving for a new pc, and I need some help since I'm somewhat inexperience and don't wanna make a bad purchase or overpay something that's not worth it.

  • Has to be a laptop, I will need it for work too, so it can't be desktop.
  • My price range comes from 1000-1500$ or € (since euros is cheaper than $)
  • Mainly will use it for gaming so the better specs, the best
  • I want to buy one that will be able to run Witcher 3 in some good settings.


Currently looking at this one --> CLICKY HERE TO SEE
But I don't know if i can get a better one from for example a better brand, or for only more 100€/$ than this one, etc..


Some suggestions?

Thanks in advance

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Mmmm i dont know about laptops so... alienware?

8 years ago
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I might be wrong but I heard Alienware was overpriced.

8 years ago
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From what I've been reading, their laptops are kinda overpriced for what they offer in terms of specs.

8 years ago
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i think that you can choose your own parts for a laptop with them, i dont remember if it was alienware or dell, but you can "build it yourself"

8 years ago
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But from my research, I can buy a close pc for so much less than the price the price they offer. I just want the best from both worlds

8 years ago
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asus ftw, there's no better one !!

8 years ago
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Dell owns Alienware and they are very overpriced. They put some flashing lights and an Alien head on a PC and then charge $1000 more than it would cost to build it yourself.

8 years ago
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Yes, alienware are super overpriced. I can recommend Asus, MSI and Lenovo with these specs: 250gb SSD + 1tb HDD, 8-16gb ram, gtx 970m, i5-i7 cpu.

SO pretty much the one you're looking at is amazing! I have a 17" MSI with similar specs, sadly with a 870m, but they are amazing, mine is on par with a PS4 and yours would surpass it.

PS: the DVD or Blu Ray tray is a waste of space btw, if you buy one without them you could buy an external for $30 (dvd) or $60 (blu ray)

8 years ago
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Thanks for the input ^^

Thanks for the info as well! Is possible to buy one without them?

8 years ago
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I'm not sure about ASUS, but MSI has a slim line called GS, those don't have the disc trays, since they are slim they overheat A LOT under heavy workload. Either way I recommend you buy a cooling pad for $20 in Amazon too, that way you could game in bed and your laptop won't explode ;)

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"can" doesn't sound very trustful xD

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I wanna buy a laptop for gaming mainly, that's why i want something between 1000-1500 :p

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Thanks anyway RedCoat.

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^ this. Can doesn't mean "WILL".
Pretty much every computer/notebook can run some games, but only select computers will run EVERY game. Refer to below list.

Examples of currently top demanding games in terms of hardware specs

  • The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
  • Grand Theft Auto V
  • Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare
  • Far Cry 4
  • Battlefield 4

I recommend that you check the recommended specs of the above game list and at least build a computer capable of running them (at maximum graphics settings or close to maximum). The best option is to purchase parts that are a little above the recommended specs, to warrant running future games (2016-2017), but it's all about budget.

Notebooks aren't the best choice in my opinion, because you can't buy parts separately and build it, and that means you will get to spend more for the same power an equivelent DIY desktop would have, but if you MUST get a lappy for portability purposes, stick to the spec advice above.

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Thanks (:

I want to buy one that will be able to run Witcher 3 in decent settings (:

Added that part to the OP.

8 years ago
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I have just edited the above post with info about notebooks.

8 years ago
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Edited the OP with the laptop im currently interested in!

8 years ago
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The notebook you linked is a great one, it will surely run everything, but it may be a little overkill, as it exceeds the specs for the top games by a bunch. In the other hand if you buy it, for the time it lasts you'll most likely be able to play the latest AAA releases.

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for the time it lasts you'll most likely be able to play the latest AAA releases.

That's exactly what I want!

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It will then depend on the lifetime of your notebook. If you use it occasionally it's a great option, however if you use it intensively it will not last as much. For as long as it lives you'll be able to max things out.

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I'll try to take good care of it. Some years will do just fine ^^

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Taking care is important, but damage from usage is inevitable. How many hours a day and how many days a week you're planning to use it? Those are the questions you should be asking yourself.

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Days per week - everyday
Hours, dunno, but maybe 5 or so

Which seems quite demanding, so any suggestions? Besides desktop |:

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You need to talk with someone or search in forums for users that had gamer notebooks for information about how long their notebooks lasted and how intensively they used, to use as a reference. I do not have experience with gaming notebooks because I never had one, so I cannot assist you with this.

Anyways, your task is to find the perfect balance between the estimated lifetime of your notebook based on how intensively you will be using it and for how much time you'll be able to max graphics of new AAA releases before better specs are required (the better the specs, the more time).

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I've owned a netbook and 2 laptops. If you plan on using it for gaming and still want it to last you have to be very careful about the battery. My personal recommendation is to remove the battery while playing games and plug in into the charger while maintaining it's location (to keep both the cord and ports in good condition). Meaning use it on a desk, not your lap or a anywhere you'll move it. Also get a cooling rack.

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call of duty advanced warfare is not that demanding... I have a gtx 750 ti highly overclocked and I run it 55fps + maxed out (except anti aliasing)

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It is demanding, the fact you run it only means that your hardware is good :P

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well I think the battlefield 4 and the witcher 3 are the most demanding games from your list :D

also don't forget about crysis 3 ?! that game is still very demanding !!

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Not as much as the listed games, if you can run Crysis 3 at maximum settings it does not mean you will max the games I listed. Crysis 3 actually asks for more than it gives to be honest (requires better specs than the graphics warrant) - proof of this is that Crysis 3 wasn't running well on my previous computer (same computer before grahics card upgrade), requiring me to lower the graphics settings, but other equivelent AAAs were running just fine.

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I am literally using this shitty computer right now, and it sucks...

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8 years ago
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Eh, clearly this is in the wrong forum. "Have / Want" topics belong in the trading section. Reported.
Just kidding, I obviously didn't report anything. Have a free bump instead :D

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Ahah thank you nevertheless ^^

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^^

8 years ago
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You know my opinion already.

Go ROG.

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ROG laptop = yes
ROG desktop = bluescreen

8 years ago
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I own a laptop, I almost forgot there are also desktops from ROG. Why are they bad?

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Well, I doubt they're all bad, but a recent model tries to switch between the onboard video and the discrete video when necessary, using third party software. (to keep power low and fans off) If you do windows updates the machine tends to bluescreen.

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I think that cats are great.

8 years ago
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No puzzle here go away.,

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I know thats not what you wanna hear but I personly would go with 2 seperate devices for work and gaming. Like a simple netbook or something like that for work and a proper desktop pc for gaming. My last laptop didn't last very long although I took quite good care of it due to microfractures between GPU and motherboard and the guy from the repair company claimed those are a common issue throughout all brands.

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^ Another comment worth noting. Notebooks have two core disadvantages when compared to desktops. First off you get to pay more and you don't have control over the hardware used in them (as I explained above). Secondly, you can't easily replace a broken part thus the repair cost will sometimes not be worth it (in the case of a Desktop computer, you can replace the broken part yourself so you get to pay just for that).

The advantages of a notebook are the fact that they are less noisy in general and are portable so if you travel/move a lot or don't live in a fixed place, they're the best options for you.

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The work I need to do on a laptop is nothing worth only a new device for it (:

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Gaming on the same device you work on is generally not recommended, but I understand your point. I suggest buying a notebook with both an SSD and an HD, and putting all the critical data on the SSD as it's far more reliable.

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You'll have to explain that to me, since I have no idea, how both differ from each other.

If you don't mind.

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Superficially explaining, SSDs (Solid State Drives) have no mechanical parts, and thus are more resistant to physical damage. They provide faster data access and last longer, which means they're more reliable to store data you don't want to lose and need to access frequently.

However, they are far more expensive and have smaller storage size, so an SSHD hybrid, or separate HDD and SSD units are the most cost effective options.

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Oh you mean this things?

What should I save in those?

8 years ago
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The notebook you linked has an SSHD so that's just fine.

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Why is that? My work does require good hardware as I work with 3D so the specs needed for that aren't that far from the ones for gaming and I have always used the same laptop for both with no problems (unless you're referring to the fact that when that computer needs formatting you have nothing else to play in or work, but that's not really worth buying a whole new computer as it only takes like a day to format and bring everything back to normal).

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Obviously for that kind of work you kind of have no option, unless you have the cash to build two gaming-worthy computers :P
I was referring to your work stuff potentially being compromised due to the fact you're gaming on the same computer and therefore putting your hardware (and software) to constant stress.

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Exaactlyy, I imagine that you mean lighter working stuff, like microsoft word, internet, presentations... maybe even editing some video with windows movie maker; how is that worth buying another pc (even a crappy one) when heavier work (like 3D) doesn't cause any problems? I use mine from "morning" 'til late night and I'm usually either playing or working and everything on the same laptop (Lenovo y510p, 2 years old I think) and I don't see any problem with that. But you're not the first that I see recommending a different pc for gaming and work, so am I missing something?

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Because a computer you work with is not a computer you want bad things happening to. Even if you back up your data, sometimes you don't want to expose it too much (e.g. confidential or important files), you wouldn't want (for example) to be vulnerable and install a lot of things that could open little security holes.

Not mentioning the unavoidable damage that comes from gaming, when you game a lot it's very likely some hardware will get compromised in the foreseeable future, and you'll have to stop working to fix/replace parts and what/not.

A computer used for work only is not only incredibly safer but also lasts a lot & runs smoothly for much longer because it's not used for anything resource intensive - except in cases like yours - and you won't have as many software installed which keeps your OS and your hard drive healthy and happy. So, most of what I said doesn't apply to you, if you don't have the budget to have a dedicated work computer, you have no other option.

In your case, yes you're both gaming and working on the same laptop for 2 years, and both your gaming and your working are resource intensive, so the expected lifetime of your notebook will be pretty slim - even when you're not gaming, you're using the same notebook to work and it still is under heavy load - not mentioning the other issues I pointed out above (also please note this is by no means a comprehensive list of the downsides of gaming on your work computer)

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Oh, now that sounds like a good reason, thank you :)
I have always been the kind of people that likes having everything on the same place rather than sparsed (not sure how to write that or if that's actually a word) everywhere so I think that even if I didn't need a computer like this for work I would still use the same for working and gaming, but recently I've been looking at Microsoft's Surface tablets and they look pretty good, I think they're a great option for those that do want having different stations. And maybe I can even use them for 3D modelling when working in props or such things that don't require a lot of resources, now you have given me one more reason to do so.

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MSI GS70-2QE81 (Stealth Pro) is great and has great specs on a laptop for the price
EDIT: If you don't like MSI you can always go ROG but a bit above your budget: Asus Republic Of Gamers G751JT-T7121H

8 years ago
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I have one Asus Rog option in the OP, but dunno if its the best option on my price range

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Have you considered building a desktop for around 1200$ and buying a laptop for $300-400 for work (if you only use word etc. that amount of money is enough). This will get you way better performances in gaming and you have your laptop.

8 years ago
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Yeah I pretty much decided to create this thread, for suggestions. That might be one option I'll consider.

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I'd go with asus rog =)
Or MSI
Or Lenovo, if you can find something good

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I hate Lenovo's x)
Right now I've seen some pretty good RoG

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Okay, but Lenovos have good quality

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Also, I highly recommend that you get 970M or 980M as GPU, since this generation has made a big jump towards the performance of the Desktop GPUs

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The pc i have on the OP fits in there ^^

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A laptop is not so good for gaming but... Rog or Dell

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I know, but it has to be laptop

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both hp and dell are expensive, but imho dell are better.
Anyway I agree, I should get a laptop too, but for gaming desktop are way better.

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in my opinion,Asus and MSI have the best gaming laptops currently (based on their price and features that they offer)
and the one you've already chosen seems good enough to play new games on high-ultra settings....

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I'd go with anything from MSI,Asus and maybe, maybe Lenovo!
There are quite some options to choose from according to your price range

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If you know what you are doing and what exactly you want, then a customized laptop could be a great choice.
Try to find a Clevo based laptop, those are great. I know that for example Eurocom sells them.

http://www.eurocom.com

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A customized laptop is easier to perform maintenance on, easier to replace components, easier to upgrade, and so on

I personally prefer a 7200rpm HDD over an SSD. A good 7200HDD can reach 180MB/s for the OS, and if the space is managed through partitions, you can guarantee over 100MB/s for games. The issue with an SSD is $$$.
With USB3.0 , you can buy a small external SSD for gaming, since the USB3 allows up to 600MB/s. This "upgrade" can be done at any time though.

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A 1000$ custom made desktop is much more powerful and better suited for gaming than a 1500$ laptop. So I suggest you to buy one 500$ laptop with relatively good cpu and weak gpu and a 1000$ desktop. The best laptop brands are lenovo and dell.

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The one you linked in the starting post can run pretty much any game on high/decent settings.
Granted, it can only do it while being plugged in to a wall socket since the batteries will die in 20-40 minutes while gaming and the CPU/GPU will probably overheat in 60, eliminating the whole point of it being mobile, but it will be able to deliver the performance you ask.

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^ This. I totally forgot to mention how the battery is rapidly depleted while gaming. While having a gaming notebook may be convenient, it still requires being plugged, so you can't game if you have no access to electricity in a given situation.

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Wow, this one looks awesome!

8 years ago
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Yep, a friend is gonna get it in a week, I think it's a great deal :)

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that laptop should be able to run Witcher 3 fine, maybe at mid settings, but keep in mind that gamming laptops are very noisy.

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Hi. Get a Sager NP8651 (Clevo P650SE). Have been using it and its amazing! Has an i7, a Nvidia 970m, is customisable and is slim at about 1 inch.

It costs approximately 1200 USD (with an additional 10% discount if you are a student) if you buy it from here: http://www.eurocom.com/ec/configure(1,257,0)ec
A European vendor is here and also gives Dying Light for free: https://www.fortunetechnology.com/notebooks/7006/
It can be play the Witcher 3 on high at approx 45 fps or on ultra at about 25 fps. If you upgrade to the 980m graphics card you can play high at 60 fps and ultra at 30fps.

Check the laptop out, l highly recommend it. Best of all, it's near silent.

Wish I'd seen this thread earlier.

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