My laptop passed away
http://www.steamgifts.com/discussion/zLSL8/my-laptop-passed-away

Can you guys tell me if this is a good build, what would you change? also, is external storage required?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dotsnake/saved/#view=TYq2FT

UPDATE
8/19/15 Just applied on paypal credit. got $400 credit line
8/19/15 I decided my due date to build my desktop is... 8/24/15

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Just buy what you can when you can afford it until you have all of the parts. If you have any questions on the build process, feel free to ask. Putting a PC together isn't super difficult. There are a lot of good tutorials on YouTube that you can reference as well.

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^^^ What he said.

Here is one example.

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When I bought my build, I bought it all together and on a physical store. The guys that worked there put all the hardware where it was meant to be, and we even ran a few things on the store itself to make sure I was ready to go.

Long story short:

  • The advantage of physical stores over virtual ones is that you don't "mess" with the thing yourself - the minions of the store do it for you.
  • The advantage of PCs over notebooks and similars is that you have the option to take out the parts time turns into museum-worthy pieces.

About the build in itself:

  • For CPU: I myself prefer Intel processors. If your cash is low atm, don't even bother with an i7 like many will foolishly tell you to. Worry yourself with a potent i5 processor or even the best i3 if that's what you can afford.
  • For GPU: I myself prefer Nvidia graphic cards. You need to find the one that fits with your motherboard (that should also shelter your processor) and doesn't bottleneck your CPU.

How to buy it on the safe zone like a newbie if help isn't granted:

  1. Choose an Intel processor that fits your budget and has good rates. Save money for your GPU!
  2. Select a motherboard that accepts the same slot your graphic card will (this is easier than it seems, seriously).
  3. Pick a good GPU that, above of all, won't bottleneck your CPU (very common!). Since GPUs are both expensive and play an important part in rendering games, you want to throw a bit more of cash on this baby.
  4. Etc: check if the graphic card's cooler is good enough for it or if you need a new one, get good RAM (nowadays 8GB won't do anymore, but don't worry: motherboards come with extra RAM slots for when you can afford them), etc and stuff I can't help you with much.
  5. Paraphernalia: Nice keyboard and mouse (easy to find cheap mice-keyboard combos online), cool screen (these can eat a lot of cash, so look for the cheapest ones that have the resolution that pleases you!), headset (can be a money eater too, but no reason to throw your money at this one), etc more fancy stuff I can't recall here.
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What store did you go to and did you have to pay them to build your desktop?

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I live in Brazil, so my answer would be of no help (hence why it isn't there in the first place).

No, I didn't get charged extra. Much like when you go to stores to buy a screen protector for your phone, people don't charge you extra to put it on since you're already paying for a product on the same store.

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While I agree with much of what the kitty said, the build you chose is actually pretty good bang for the buck and a good starting point. There is still some upgrade potential with it, though not huge. The initial issue I can see is if you're a gamer and concerned with graphics quality and/or frame rates, you may want to splurge a bit more on a better GPU. The R9 270 2GB in that build is getting a bit dated besides not having a lot of VRAM.

As for only 8 GB of RAM, add one more stick and you've got 16GB and can take advantage of multi-channel on that motherboard.

As everyone else suggested, if you have any questions, just ask.

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I think stores usually charge like $50?

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Sorry to read about your laptop. :(

Building a PC can be fun. A great place to look around for components is here. It's sort of the isthereanydeal of components as it will pull prices from many major online and b&m stores. Not only that, but as you start adding components to your build list it will inform you if there are any compatibility issues. It's really quite slick. A general rule of thumb is AMD makes excellent hardware at a cheaper price while Intel/nvidia will cost more. I'm not favoring one side or the other so just see what caters to your budget best and will provide you with the longevity of gaming you'd like. Finally, use this place. The users of SG are so helpful. I built a PC a while back after being out of the PC gaming business since 2005. It was a whole new world of hardware and the kind users of the forum really helped me. These people are awesome. :)

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Read this page.
http://techreport.com/review/28621/system-guide-current

It should help you with the basics at least.

I wouldnt put much stock in that reddit build. I mean, they recommend a single stick of DDR ram.
It is called DDR for a reason. You should never ever use a single stick if you don't mind losing performance.
The whole guide looks like it was made using the cheapest parts, rather than the cheapest parts with good performance.

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DDR is still DDR whether there's one stick or two or three or... well... you get the idea. DDR refers to the clock speed of the RAM, nothing more.

What you're most likely referring to is bank interleaving or multi-channel memory access. Either one refers to the ability to use multiple sticks of RAM in multiple slots on your motherboard for increased performance.

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It doesn't really matter if you have a discrete GPU, dual channel only gives +5% average performance (like 60 to 63 fps). Altough if you use IGP it can give a huge boost, 60 to 100%.

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There is no real reason to sacrifice that 5% performance. I doubt its gonna cost him much more if he gets 2 sticks instead of 1. Plus 2 is better because if one fails, you still got one more until you get it replaced. It has happened to me multiple times before.

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Solve most of it. Thanks guys. I am applying on credit card left and right and also getting denied left and right.

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I picked this guys, let me know what you think

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dotsnake/saved/#view=TYq2FT

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Looks decent enough for a budget build, except for one thing ---

You're going to want a bigger monitor - trust me on that. Go at LEAST 22" and possibly 24+ if you can afford it. Why buy a PC to make games look good, then play them on a tiny monitor? You can get a decent enough 22" for ~$100 on sale these days. Also, your monitor is one of the few things you can carry over as your PC build evolves.

You forgot a mouse, too. :P

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Ive added a bigger monitor, but i wanted to decrease the price so I picked cheaper parts, one thing lead to another.. I have a $700 incompatible parts.. can someone here help me choose the parts? including everything necessary to play? like monitor and keyboard.

I would really appreciate it.

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What is your budget? 400 or 700? What games do you want to play?

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That psu is horrible..

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZYsG4D

my suggestions

windows 10 is still free btw

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That looks awesome, except I'd go with a quad-core AMD processor/mobo combo over a dual-core Intel It'd cut a few $$$ of the total and probably add a little more longevity, especially since he'll be gaming on this. (And no, I'm not an AMD fanboy - my rig is all Intel/nVidia haha). AMD are almost always better for budget builds.

Something like the A10-5800K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113280

and maybe something like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157569 for a mobo.

EDIT: and with the APU's built in GPU, he could even hold off for a bit on the GPU purchase if needed.

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It has hyperthreading unlike the older i3s :P so technically it has 4 cores lol. I don't think APUs are good unless you have fast ram speed. Also for the motherboard if I want to get a 970 I'd go with the gigabyte 970a-ud3p because it's almost as good as a standard 990 board.

Edit: but yes they can get an APU and add in a GPU later

Edit 2: http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=1923&gid2=1079&compare=radeon-r9-270x-msi-hawk-edition-vs-radeon-hd-7660d still going to be really weak for current gen gaming

And edit 3: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-3.html intel i3s are mid range for gaming xD

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His low budget kinda leaves socket AM3+ out of the question here, unfortunately. If I had $700 just for the PC itself, that would definitely be the way to go, though (or even a quad core Intel). Having no monitor, mouse, KB, or OS eats up over 1/3 his budget ....

Hell, I even put an SSD into nearly every budget build I do these days, too, but again his budget leaves no wiggle room for that, either. Can't squeeze blood from a stone, haha.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I wasn't suggesting the APU to replace a dedicated GPU - APU's are mostly garbage -- I only suggested one so he could upgrade his other components, and possibly save for a dedicated GPU later

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Ya :] that's why I chose these parts xD

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Looks like you're in the states... imho, if you can, keep shopping for the parts right now, but wait to buy until Black Friday. Three months, but unless you don't really have another decent PC around right now, could be worth it.

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Intel > AMD from my opinion, some friends had lots of problems with those processors. And Idk but, doesn't the processor come with a cooler already?
About the OS, I think you could find it cheaper. I got win7 for $30 in a store.
And about the Power Supply, I think you should look for a more trustworthy one >-<

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