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ukrainian national guard had entered town Boucha one day before poorly staged video, see it yourself, there's no waving hands dummies, no distressed civilians, nothing special, clearing roads of damaged vehicles, probably used as a cover. https://t.me/Mikle1On/926

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Hundreds of dead civilians all over the city, some previously kidnapped by Russians. Some in mass graves, some burned to ashes, some shot down in their cars. Tons of witnesses. Lots of data confirming it, including satellite images.

Weirdo's comment on all that::

poorly staged video

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It must be convenient to live in pro-Putin fairy tales!

Your army never kills civilians! When you invade a country, everyone loves you!

Some really mean people say that you kidnap Ukrainians , but the truth is that you bring Ukrainians to Russia (the best country ever), Ukrainians are so happy that they completly forget to communicate with their less lucky relatives and friends.

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Sarcasm might fly over their head. Putinwhores rarely possess high enough intellect for critical thinking.

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Article from the RIA news agency: What should Russia do with Ukraine?
https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html
Google translate: https://ria-ru.translate.goog/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Just to put a cork in those people arguing that Russia just wanted to save people in Donbass. They want a 'reeducated' puppet state.

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Be careful, the Russians will say they are actors.
Apparently Ukraine has a lot of actors and actresses.
They play their role as soldier too well though the Russians commented. hahaha

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i know only mila jowovich or sounde like this ))
u know shee - umbrella corp (resident evil)

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Know her
But am more of a Mila Kunis ( That 70's show) fan.

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https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-04-05-22/h_c7e80da6a551352999f791c501f63032
29 min ago
Zelensky asks UN Security Council to hold Russia accountable and provide guarantees to Ukraine
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In his Tuesday address, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky urged the United Nations Security Council to provide security guarantees to Ukraine.

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The article is somewhat lengthy as is the content of the speech.
Please be sure to check the latest source.

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Zelensky asks UN Security Council to hold Russia accountable and provide guarantees to Ukraine // no bucha?
seems as frenche - le strange...

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he just trolling. loook at text:
"what he witnessed in Bucha" - i saw this on some historicall object. like Tower of Pisa
shee was fallllling - iiiiiiiil saaaw this!!!111

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Damn you're so childish. Embarrassing... It must be bad if hey need to send kindergartners to troll around.

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makes you wonder, what exactly is in their drinking water

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xanax. "in they water"

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u mean ukrranian neo-nazi taking some rage pills?
in some stage they parody j. l. tolkien - like a horde.

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That's adorable. :)
You are already doing a better job than some Russian diplomats. :D
At least, Sergey Lavrov seems would never be as likable as you. XD

And no, I am not going to fight a catgirl/catboy.
So, I decided to just make fun of you instead of getting angry.

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Zelensky: "There is no security in the world for anyone" despite UN Security Council
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“The UN Security Council exists and yet there is no security in the world for anyone,” Zelensky said, “The only guilty party is one country, Russia, which discredits all of the institutions and blocks the global architecture for the sake of spreading lies and justifying the evil it commits.” 

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The article is somewhat lengthy as is the content of the speech.
Please be sure to check the latest source.

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ua. ? ua news?

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are you a literal person, read bellow "about us".

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follow ur instructions .... found only a text like "Kyiv-based think-tank"

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Not a single letter about death squads. Stop daydreaming. The article is about investigating places of russian war crimes and taking to jail every russian accomplices.

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war crimes // ? tell this story to average miped boys..... u cant. cunt wat? tooo beeeing honest....

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There is a small problem. And everyone understands about it. The problem is that the Russian military forces, together with the DPR and LPR militia, left Bucha on March 30 and the Armed Forces of Ukraine came there on March 31, but all the "evidence" of crimes appeared only on April 4. Moreover, there are white bandages on parts of the bodies, and there are no corpse spots, as well as the blood is not very clotted. That's exactly the problem, why England, as the current chairman of the UN Security Council, is delaying in every possible way the convening of an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council.

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small problem if i cant order some bugergers/
UE eda

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It's been said so many times already that I'm surprised anyone can still claim that.

The evidence of the crimes appeared on 1.04:
https://twitter.com/search?q=until%3A2022-04-02%20since%3A2022-04-01%20bucha

That is so easy to verify. xD Yet Russian MFA still presented this lie in their "official statement".

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Don't watch Putin's TV (skotovizor) only - check satellite photos from 11-19 March with Bucha full of civilian corpses under Putin's army control. Provocation with bodies slipped by americans and Hollywood again? Lavrov be like

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There is only one problem - russians trying to invent some excuses for their atrocities. Like, lying that evidence appeared only on april 4, or saying that England delaying meeting. You lie so much and then you're surprised nobody believes you anymore.

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I'm sorry, but it's a recognized fact about England. So this cannot be attributed to a lie.
Well, at least you don't have to come up with excuses for the atrocities of Azov, as well as the refusal to comply with the Geneva Convention on prisoners. Although they don't invent it there either, but I post these atrocities that even those who are negatively inclined are already forced to say that this is bad.

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You still looking for excuses to kill civilians and leveling cities, right? But there are none.

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Yes, that's right, Azov should be punished.

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Then go bomb Voronezh to punish Azov, according to your logic it should help.

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A thread with some examples and articles for Russian torture and other war crimes.
Twitter

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5 hr 50 min ago
Twitter says it will no longer amplify or recommend Russian government accounts — stops short of a full ban
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-04-05-22/h_d44820113139385ee0ac72d4679af508


Our ongoing approach to the war in Ukraine
https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2022/our-ongoing-approach-to-the-war-in-ukraine
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1.If content is in violation of the Twitter Rules, we’ll take enforcement action against it at the Tweet or account level – this includes content removal.
2.When the risks for immediate harm associated with a Tweet are less severe, but where left uncontextualized may mislead people, we focus on reducing its reach and not proactively amplifying the Tweets into peoples’ timelines. De-amplifying content significantly reduces its visibility and labels add important context.

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Lastly, we will now require the removal of any Tweets, regardless of who posts them, if there is PoW content shared with abusive intent, such as insults, calls for retaliation, mocking/taking pleasure in suffering of PoWs, or for any other behavior that violates the Twitter rules.

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📝:The first half was in English and the second half in Russian.
It is too long and should be read by Twitter users.
It will save you from inadvertently ruining your account.


I do not own a Twitter account, so I will avoid evaluating the good or bad about these rules.⚖

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Related information.


Elon Musk Joins Twitter Board - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/04/business/twitter-elon-musk-directors.html
Elon Musk on Twitter: "Do you want an edit button?" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1511143607385874434


👀...The sudden change in policy may have something to do with these....

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Parag Agrawal on Twitter: "Elon has decided not to join our board. I sent a brief note to the company, sharing with you all here. https://t.co/lfrXACavvk" / Twitter
https://twitter.com/paraga/status/1513354622466867201


Hmm...

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Funny how they cherrypicked the pretty small radical groups to justify invading another country and ruthlessly killing thousands of people.

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It was these small groups that had been shelling civilians in Donetsk and Luhansk for 8 years. For 8 years they tried to negotiate peacefully, the "Minsk agreements" were created.

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youtube plz

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YOUTUBE or RUTUBE

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triangles???

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see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances

so russia violated first and not for the first time

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Wow!
It's if like I do a google search I can even find Neo-Nazis in Russia!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV4v31azgQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LL_6iN2t8M

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2004.... ,in Russia it is really a minority. There were many more in the 90s. In Russia, you will be imprisoned for wearing a swastika.
And in Ukraine, Nazism is propagated by the government.
This man at the beginning of the video was put in jail and he died.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9xkuPKvhDs

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video of the 90s ........., the surge of Nazism was associated with the war in Chechnya

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2007

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You can tell by the clothes that it's from the 90s. In general, there are videos from different years. What are you telling me here, I live and lived in this city on the video.

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That people living in glass houses should not be throwing stones

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what

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В чужом глазу соломину видеть, в своём — бревна не замечать

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объясняю ещё раз. Нацисты есть везде, но в России людей таких штрафуют\сажают . У вас в уа , нацизм идёт от власти
Даже в 90х когда нацистов в России было много и это было связано с войной в Чечне... , но даже тогда их ловили и сажали если они что-то сделали.

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Only thing people are arrested for in Russia is for voicing their opinions and opposing your dictator.

How come Wagner group is still functioning if you glorious Russia is so opposed to Nazism and arrest anyone? .... At this point you are not even trying to troll.. just copy/pasting shit from some Kremlin memo

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proof

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https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/putin-nazi-pretext-russia-war-ukraine-belied-white-supremacy-ties-rcna23043
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/20/russian-mercenaries-in-ukraine-linked-to-far-right-extremists
https://theprint.in/world/what-is-wagner-group-shadowy-russian-mercenaries-in-kyiv-to-assassinate-volodymyr-zelensky/851900/
https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/putin-following-hitler-losing-propaganda-war-by-slawomir-sierakowski-2022-03
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-what-is-the-wagner-group-of-secret-russian-mercenaries-12562034
https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/03/07/what-is-the-wagner-group-russias-mercenary-organisation
https://www.newamerica.org/future-frontlines/blogs/wagner-group-contingent-rusich-on-the-move-again/
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/wagner-group-russia-ukraine.html
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-701044
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/decoding-wagner-group-analyzing-role-private-military-security-contractors-russian-proxy-warfare/tracing-wagners-roots/
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/wagner-group-what-russian-mercenearies-ukraine-president-zelensky-putin-1489364
https://warontherocks.com/2022/03/how-are-putins-far-right-fans-in-the-west-reacting-to-his-war/
https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-wagner-group-files/

Want more ? As if you will read any of them anyway. If your answer is iTs AlL fAkE then you can simply stop responding. If whatever made up proof is reason to invade UA, then Wagner is proof enough to bomb Russia.
These "heroes" are already accused of killing 300 civilians in Mali. They are sick animals on putins leash. I do hope every single one of these pathetic subhumans are removed from existence

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NEWS !!!
Zelensky descendant of Hitler!!
https://i.ibb.co/Mg8xbr4/zelya.jpg

this picture is as informative as twitter

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Now everyone can see that you are just a ruzzian troll and nothing else

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Объясняю: нацизм это не свастика, нацизм это идеология.
В России запрещена нацистская свастика, как и запрещено любое иномышление. Гомосексуализм тоже запрещен, хотя он ничего общего к нацизму не имеет. И называть окупацию Украины, окупацией - тоже запрещено.
А нацистские идеи: расовой классификации и тоталитарной власти... наоборот в России очень даже распространены.

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гомосексуализм не запрещён, запрещена пропаганда его. Между прочим совсем недавно в сша тоже запретили "воспитывать" как в европе.

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Жалко что умственное отставание в России так и не запретили.
Потому что гомосексуалистами рождаются. И надо быть умственно отсталым чтобы думать что гомосексуализму "воспитывают".

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У вас в уа , нацизм идёт от власти

Где пруфы? Тебе уже неоднократно доказали, что это только твои влажные фантазии. А вот в россии исстребление украинцев по национальному признаку (= нацизм) идёт от власти.

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You didn't listen to it, right?

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now even if you publish a swastika via the Internet, you will be fined as a minimum

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Swastika is nothing...

Now you get jail time for telling the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47VsL51m9pI

Like in good old times of Stalin...

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here the visitors killed the guy. Well, the people came out so that the police would act more actively. This is democracy

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this is total bullshit
это даже основанием для чего-то быть не может

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Ты просто разницу почувствуй. В России нацистов сажают. В Украине нацистов называют героями.

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NEWS !!!
Zelensky descendant of Hitler!!
https://i.ibb.co/Mg8xbr4/zelya.jpg

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NEWS !!!
Zelensky descendant of Hitler!!
https://i.ibb.co/Mg8xbr4/zelya.jpg

this picture is as informative as twitter

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the article in the picture is a solid photoshop, so it’s generally difficult to say what it is

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hahaha lolol did you see the face in the photo? there are migrants in the photo.
It's all photoshop, most likely.

fake news

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do you think migrants left to remove migrants from the country

And I also remember there was such an oppositionist Navalny, who gathered in a crowd, there were Nazis and gays in this crowd, then they really got into a fight.

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I don't know what you are trying to achieve here by posting this video.

Yes, there were ultra-nationalistic parties, politicians, and even neo-Nazi units (f.e. "Azov") in Ukraine. This is a fact and no one argues with this, not even ukrainians. But, first of all, since 2014, "Azov" was reformed, ardent nationalism was banned; those who disagreed with the new policy were excluded, and criminal cases were opened against the military involved in war crimes against russian soldiers. Secondly, the leader of the “Right Sector” (also mentioned in your video) received less than 0.7% in the 2014 elections, and in 2019 he even lost his seat in the Verkhovna Rada. Also in 2019, Oleh Lyashko's Radical Party lost all their seats in parliament. Thus, not a single nationalist party got into the Rada. Doesn't look like nationalism and fascism were that popular in Ukraine, right?

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https://cs14.pikabu.ru/video/2022/03/29/164850142627244192_1280x720.webm
here's a fact for you, a man shouts "glory to the Azov regiment .. *"
so don't lie

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Oh dear, you are so morally broken. Про таких и говорят - позор нации.

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what? you lied, and I poked you into it. And why am I suddenly broken?
ты соврал а я тебя ткнул в это дерьмо.

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Your "proof" showed nothing, What it shows? That the man we can't see shots something, and his weapon don't even work. Might be russian fake. This video was forced around by russians to show that ukrainian weapons doesn't work

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this is not even a Ukrainian weapon)))

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That's beside the point, russian were using this video as a proof that ukrainian weapons doesn't work/ allies sending ukrainians broken weapons. This reeks of russian fake

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think what you want, but the video was not about weapons, but about the "azov", maybe they said that it was disbanded

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You can also think what you want. But this video proves nothing and might be a russian fake

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Bop bop - 404 page not found/ Stop copypasting, clown

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объясняю ещё раз. Нацисты есть везде, но в России людей таких штрафуют\сажают . У вас в уа , нацизм идёт от власти
Даже в 90х когда нацистов в России было много и это было связано с войной в Чечне... , но даже тогда их ловили и сажали если они что-то сделали.
I explain again. There are Nazis everywhere, but in Russia such people are fined/imprisoned. You have in ya, Nazism comes from power
Even in the 90s, when there were a lot of Nazis in Russia and this was due to the war in Chechnya ... but even then they were caught and imprisoned if they did something.

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that's why I can't stand lies

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unfortunately, our government, unlike yours, lies badly and this is always visible, but I even brought you links not from state channels.
к сожалению наше правительство в отличие от вашего плохо врёт и это всегда видно, но я вам даже ссылки привёл не с государственных каналов.

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Просто я получаю информацию из разных источников и анализирую, у меня есть знакомые даже с того самого Мариуполя.
I just get information from different sources and analyze it, I have friends even from that same Mariupol.

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Просто я получаю информацию из разных источников и анализирую,
I just get information from different sources and analyze it,

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я вам не назову свои источники, но они различны.
Любой мой источник с неудобной для вас информацией будет "кремлёвский", хотя это не так.
И не забывайте ваш презедент актёр и он играет роль, а у России презедент юрист, и у него на всё будут докозательства.
I will not name my sources, but they are different.
Any of my sources with information that is inconvenient for you will be "Kremlin", although this is not so.
And do not forget your president is an actor and he plays a role, and Russia has a lawyer president, and he will have evidence for everything.

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я не буду смотреть пока что что там... потом... но скорее всего фейк, хотя смотря в каком контексте.
Кому вообще может нравиться война.?? никому!

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Why are you spreading them then?

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Oh, I just wanted to see what exactly he would answer me. After all, I agreed with him that there were nationalist parties in Ukraine...

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Also, it's outdated narrative.
Тимофей Сергейцев Russian propagandist, did de facto say recently that the "denazification" is in fact "deukrainization" (and also "deuropeanization"). This is the proper term to describe Russia's true motives.

Denazification will inevitably also be a de-Ukrainization - a rejection of the large-scale artificial inflation of the ethnic component of self-identification of the population of the territories of historical Little Russia and New Russia, begun by the Soviet authorities. [auto translate]
RIA Novosti

This is obviously, a copycat of Nazi Germany propaganda. Agenda that is reminenscent of Nazi "Final Solution", but Nazi Russia aims it at Ukrainians this time.

If this is what you Russian war mongers advocate then you should have a decency to name it by its real name - Deukrainization conducted by Nazi Russia.

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Russia has been trying to negotiate for 8 years.

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Also russia started this war and was supplying weapons for separatists for 8 years. So yeah, nice NegOTiaTiOns

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apparently you didn’t study political science, but I’ll tell you ... any war can only be resolved by negotiations ..
These negotiations went on for 8 years, where the "Minsk agreements" were adopted, but for all these 8 years Ukraine has ignored them

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apparently you didn't study it as well, but I will tell you....there was no need to start a war in the first place, people can use words, right?
But russia decided differenly when it started civil war in DIFFERENT counry. You cant supply weapons to separatists and holler for peace at the same time

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I'll tell you more, if I were in power, I would immediately gasp in Ukraine, and not wait for these 8 years.
this whole military operation is a reliance on peace enforcement.
it’s just that we can’t agree with you otherwise

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And I will tell you once again, my psycho friend. If I were in power, I would prevent russian separatist in 2014, so this whole mess wont happened at all. This war was fueled by russians, so its useless to negotiate peace with them. They simply dont want it, hell, even you dont want peace.

Russia cant agree peacefully with no one, it can only speaks from place of power and threats, nuclear threats

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Honestly there is just no excuse for copying Nazi Germany plans of eradicating nations. Yet this is what Russia is trying to do.

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why then Russia evacuates people???
and why Ukrainian troops shoot cars of those who are trying to leave??

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Why then russians shoot at green corridors?
Why "saved" ukrainians dissapear into thin air and no one can contact them? Why only a few lucky ones who managed to return to ukraine tells a different story than russian propaganda?

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Stop reading yellow press

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Same goes for you, stop consuming russian tv

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I didn’t provide you with a single link to Russian TV, why did you get the idea that I watch it

https://youtu.be/n8Kt2p97VGE

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And I didn't provide a single link to yellow press, so what's your point?

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you just either lied or you lied
https://youtu.be/LMXlv-Ae2bU

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NEWS !!!
Zelensky descendant of Hitler!!
https://i.ibb.co/Mg8xbr4/zelya.jpg

this picture is as informative as twitter

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Haha, and I proved it again. You are just a clown....or a troll? Probably both

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you give me links to government sites

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Still waiting for the analize, clown

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And still waiting.....still waiting for that analize from you.... And you just keep spamming

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this video shows how you are deceived. I hope your brain is still working.

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You can stop responding to me, clown. For a person who claims that he analyze everything and have different sources.....lets just simply say it don't show in your responses

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you're just an idiot, I even read, read!! false stories will not

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You're missing the point here. All those claims are only to excuse what is happening, but such things can not be excused. Russia is acting like Nazi Germany. Your leader was surprisingly open about it, claiming there is no Ukrainian nation at all. Deukrainization is an execution of this idea & your soldiers seem to live by it.

Also you're holding on to propaganda materials, while the history of Russian "strategies" in other conflicts just show the pattern. You can read my comment here. This proves the obvious, Russians are destroying whole cities, killing innocent civilians on the pretence of "denazification", which is just a cover up for their true Nazi-like goal "deukrainization".

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I did not provide any links to Russian TV

Of course there are many suggestions. But the overall goal is the security of the country.
And Hitler had a goal to take over the world.

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So you'll attack anyone until your country is 'secure'? What does that even mean?

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Well, we have been talking about our security on international platforms for a long time.

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No seriously, what does 'security of the country' mean?

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that feeling when you talk to a person about politics, and he got in there a couple of days ago

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Says the person constantly posting a photoshop to prove a point. I got my answer anyway and guess what, I'm not surprised by it at all.

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The goal is to "bring Malorosiia back to the motherland". It's almost clear, just a little covered under the "denazification" propaganda bit. What security threat could Ukraine be to the great Russia & its omnipotent army? This is just another excuse. It is same goal as Hitler's - imperialism.

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Seems like our friendly neighborhood trolls have received a new memo from Kremlin. They are doing another wave of trying to paint Ukrainians as Nazi and Anti-Russian state....
I thought they were suspiciously quiet for a day or two. I wonder what will be next on their agenda

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They woke up from their slumber after nearly a year. Its like they have been instructed to publish this vomit and copy paste articles, false analogy and ad hominem arguments in all social media and any forum.
Some of them even lack communication skills and arent capable of more than grunts and words that imitate noises.
So far thats how Russians present themselves in this thread. But maybe it all makes sense after drinking the Kool-Aid

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The American Fox News channel removed from an interview with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky his answer to a question about the atrocities of the Azov battalion, which the host called "Nazi".
https://youtu.be/bUmG2KNriYM

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So what exactly do you want to tell us here? He said that the Azov battalion was merged to ukraninian military, and those of the battalion who committed crimes were taken to court.

Azov would have never existed in the first place if Putin didn't take over the East and Crimea. Putin is the creator of Azov. After all can you blame some nationalist assholes for defending their country? And its not like the Russian army is full of angels there are probably way more nazis in the RU army than there were in the Azov battalion.

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the right sector was even before the Crimea. On the Maidan you can see their flags, and now these flags are in the columns of military equipment. And "Azov" is just a military unit from the right sector.

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The right sector that failed to go over 5% election threshold, getting 2.15% of the votes in the last parliamentary election?

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if elections are held now, then Zelensky will hardly come out for 5%

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So you are a prophet then? Where are this numbers coming from? I will for sure vote for Zelensky again

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Yes of course. That's so legit.
You keep demanding "proofs" yet you don't hesitate to make such statements out of thin air. This is just ridiculous.

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about 5% .. what evidence can there be if there have been no elections yet

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If there is no evidence? How can you claim that?

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it's just a guess. this has not happened yet, you can assume at least 100%

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Then this is simply a lie.

Start calling things by its proper names.

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5% is a guess. I feel like I'm talking to a 10 year old

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Yeah, sure

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Man what a lame excuse. Nazis and "right sectors" exist in every fucking society, there are more nazis in RU than in Ukraine, its just common sense if you look at the amount of people in each population. Again, what is your point????

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it seems you do not distinguish between nationalism and Nazism, first understand these concepts and return

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Haha good one. You're right, there are no nazis in russia, zero of them. And then you have a brainless people, waving Z flags and follow their dictator to their doom, like the people did in Nazi Germany. Lesson not learned I guess. I can't blame you flake, it's hard to admit that you are the bad guys if you truly believe your nation is some kind of liberator of the evil. The world has turned against your country already, except for some shit hole countries like Syria, that are ruled by shit hole dictators like Putin. Good luck in the future.

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https://www.youtube.com/c/RichardMedhurst/videos
interesting channel
UN military analyst Scott Ritter on the situation in Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/n8Kt2p97VGE

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You know that Scott Ritter is a pedo, and was jailed for attempting to seduce underage girls, right?

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Recent evacuation corridors
https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/YMT6oiX


Several evacuation corridors agreed today, says Ukraine's Deputy PM
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-04-06-22/h_8960d02998f36b96f78d5056a7b1fb97
47 min ago
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Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk announced 11 evacuation routes had been agreed upon with Russia on Wednesday.
In the southeastern region of Ukraine, she said the corridors open would be:

▪️From Mariupol to Zaporizhzhia by personal transport.
▪️From Berdiansk to Zaporizhzhia by personal transport and buses.
▪️From Tokmak to Zaporizhzhia by personal transport and buses.
▪️From Enerhodar to Zaporizhzhia by personal transport.
▪️From Huliaipole to Zaporizhzhia by personal transport. Buses from Zaporizhzhia with humanitarian aid will also be sent.
▪️From Melitopol to Zaporizhzhia by personal transport. Buses from Zaporizhzhia with humanitarian aid will also be sent.

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Meanwhile, the eastern region of Luhansk has seen intense fighting, with settlements coming under heavy shelling. According to Vereshchuk, the corridors open Wednesday in the Luhansk region are:

▪️From the city of Severodonetsk to the city of Bakhmut.
▪️From the city of Lysychansk to the city of Bakhmut.
▪️From Popasna to Bakhmut.
▪️From the village of Hirske to the town of Bakhmut.
▪️From Rubizhne to Bakhmut.

Be sure to check the latest information.

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Head of Kharkiv military administration announces evacuation of 2 cities
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"We will centrally evacuate those cities in coordination with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in particular in the Izium direction: Lozova city, Barvinkove city — in order to prevent and possibly reduce casualties among civilians in the event of relocation of active hostilities to the vicinity of these settlements," he said.

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Be sure to check the latest information.

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9 min ago
Several evacuation corridors agreed for Thursday, says Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-04-07-22/h_68f4b024ec556e959fe8c0bd45a52cd0
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Ten evacuation corridors have been agreed for Thursday, Ukraine's Deputy Prime Minister Iryna Vereshchuk announced in a Facebook post.

In the Donetsk region, she said there would be one corridor from Mariupol to Zaporizhzhia for private vehicles.

In the Zaporizhzhia region, Vereshchuk said four corridors would open:

From Berdiansk to Zaporizhzhia for private vehicles and buses.
From Tokmak to Zaporizhzhia for private vehicles and buses.
From Melitopol to Zaporizhzhia for private vehicles and buses.
From Enerhodar to Zaporizhzhia for private vehicles.

In the Luhansk region, five corridors were listed by Vereshchuk:

From Severodonetsk to Bakhmut.
From Lysychansk to Bakhmut.
From Popasna to Bakhmut.
From the village of Hirske to Bakhmut.
From Rubizhne to Bakhmut.

This comes after Vereshchuk said that 4,892 people were evacuated through evacuation corridors on Wednesday.
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) told CNN on Wednesday that a Red Cross convoy of buses and private cars carrying more than 500 civilians fleeing Mariupol had arrived in the southeastern city of Zaporizhzhia.

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Be sure to check the latest information.

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https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-04-08-22/h_1dffa6f69898c8448dda2d375eae9cae
37 min ago
Ukraine announces 10 humanitarian corridors for Friday
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The corridors are:

In the eastern Donetsk region, an evacuation corridor is set to open from Mariupol to Zaporizhzhia for those able to use personal transport.
In the southeastern Zaporizhzhia region, corridors are set to open from Berdiansk, Tokmak, Melitopol and Enerhodar.
And in Luhansk, evacuation corridors are set to open from Severodonetsk, Lysychansk, Popasna, Hirske and Rubizhne to Bakhmut. 

Be sure to check the latest information.

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40 min ago
Russian forces preparing for "massive breakthrough" attempt in Donbas region, military governor says
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The situation in the Donbass area seems suspicious....
Be sure to check the latest information.

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https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-04-09-22/h_5db9817d974949e06e2d0d66596c69e6
5 min ago
Evacuation routes adjusted after Kramatorsk strike, regional military governor says
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The military governor of Ukraine's eastern Luhansk region said evacuation corridors for civilians were "being adjusted" following a Russian missile strike on Kramatorsk train station on Friday.

Speaking on national television, Serhii Haidai said: "Unfortunately, after yesterday's disaster from Kramatorsk, our evacuation routes are being adjusted, but we are ready, we will continue to evacuate people."

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Read the source if you are interested in the description of the situation in each region.
Be sure to check the latest information.

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https://www.youtube.com/c/RichardMedhurst/videos
interesting channel
UN military analyst Scott Ritter on the situation in Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/n8Kt2p97VGE

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https://www.youtube.com/c/RichardMedhurst/videos
interesting channel
UN military analyst Scott Ritter on the situation in Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/n8Kt2p97VGE

you posted that an hour ago already. please restart your ruSStard bot software or contact customer support.

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What BS,
Just 5 minutes in
Standard Russian doctrine is to negotiate...
If negotiate means shelling a city to the ground then sure they are right.

See Chechia, Georgia, Syria and now Ukraine.

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Is that some famous reputable US military "expert" from pаRuSSia Today?

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More like: stupid nationalists shout on Ukrainian man that they are not women with kids.

Same argument they were using against refugees from the Middle East. If you're a guy you should stay where you are. They want to accept only women as people that suffer on this war. Like if they don't know their grand and grand-grand fathers were fleeing from war in Poland to the west >_>

Not everyone need to stay and go on the front line especially when not trained.

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Kick Zenensky and the war will stop.

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totally insane idea - how about not starting a war at all ?
I know I know, sounds ridiculous.. Put the blame on the victim. That will fix everything. Bunch of clowns.

For a full circus you still need to bring up how USA is waging wars and how that somehow lessens what RUS has done.

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+1

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Greece, Cyprus and Israel to expand energy cooperation amid Ukraine war | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/greece-cyprus-israel-expand-energy-cooperation-amid-ukraine-war-2022-04-05/


His country, Greece, has teamed up with Cyprus and Israel to build a natural gas transportation route that does not involve Russia. That relationship has just been strengthened.
It is now a major partner in building the future logistics that Ukraine wants to see.
For example, the...
A world economy that does not need Russia.
Or, it is a transportation time reduction activity so that Germany does not need Russian natural gas.

Perhaps he is unaware of reality.ヾノ・Θ・)

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I mean from one side I wouldnt really blame the people - as Ive already stated in other comments it feels like some people just need to be on opposing side. That`s why we hear "supporting the next thing" etc once we support UA. They will more identify with info that will go against majority. The whole west is against RUS right now. And here comes in these people who feel they just have to be against that to feel better so they identify with news from RUS...

As I stated previously, Latvia is switching off gas from RUS as well along with Lithuania and Estonia and for the next week there might be some decisions on this plan to lessen dependency on RUS gas. But we still have people who stay knowingly arrogant to what`s going on in UA and continue to paddle the same sentences "whatabout USA; Nazi Zelensky is at fault; NATO pushed RUS into it" and others.. In their point of view everything we say is fake because its what majority believes in

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That is one way to think about it.

Simply to the extent that I think some people are posting without checking those posts after viewing what has so far been determined to be "fake news".
There are many people in the world who do not even care about the politics of their own country.
There are also violent peace-seekers who would like to live in peace, if possible, without regard to their country or its politics.

So basically, unless they are "gentlemen" on "Guideline" or their actions are in serious violation of the terms and conditions, I don't force them to reply and see what happens.
I think the old part of this "discussion" is about the frequent smear and harassment postings on SMS in general on the Internet in the early days of the Ukrainian war, and the situation that followed.
Basically, the unfortunate characteristic of such manipulations is that they do things to break off the "communication between human beings," such as "not making conversation," "calling the same thing over and over again," for example, "shut up" or "look in the mirror. .......

It is similar to what you find in religious organizations and totalitarian countries.

https://www.steamgifts.com/go/comment/22WImTI

The story related to these was ridden with detailed explanations when I traced it back to the source in the fake news case the other day.
Just an FYI that there are stories like this.

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Maybe, maybe not. It is true that if the war is going and one side surrenders - the war would probably end. But there wouldn't be a war now if Russia didn't start it.

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Your idea to end the war by giving up their freedom so russia can implement a puppet state is brilliant
glad you took your time to grace us with such superior intellect

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Only idiots believe in that.

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Maybe surrender to mad Putin is also a good idea to stop his invasion?

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Today, a politician who predicted a lot of things died of covid.
https://cs14.pikabu.ru/video/2022/04/06/1649241765227575103_320x240.webm

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The Great Patriotic War 1941-2022

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/g8yD1K

View attached image.
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ah yes. the fairy tales of the neo-soviet heroics and glory.
fuck off

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This is how looks like typical Putin's sсum

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and lets remember that russia invaded Poland with Hitler and helped to start WW2

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Also let's remember the Munich Agreement a year prior to that, where Britain, France and Italy helped Hitler to start WW2. As a result Poland was allowed to invade Czechoslovakia and get a good part of it.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement

I think you mean Germany and not Poland.

But it is also a reminder what happens if you do not stand up against dictators.or bullies

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Well, Germany took a bigger part, but Poland also got it's slice of Czechoslovakia.

Also it took a big part of Ukraine and Belarus when russians were busy in a Civil War. Do we can also see the return of theses territoryies back to USSR in 1939 as a justified act. And a remainder... of sorts.

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see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Russia

followinbg your reasoning the scandinivians should take back russia

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Actually, we rere following your reasoning :)

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My reasoning is politicians can not be trusted. And dictators are the worst kind of politician. And Putin is a bad dictator., just like Stalin.

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Actually, I don't think Stalin was so bad as a dictator. Unlike Putin, he didn't live in luxury, he didn't use power for some personal gain, neither did he give any preference to his friends or reatives. Stalin didn't use speechwriters and didn't hide behind his PR team. He really stood for his words and explained his position detail in countless articles. He wasn't afraid to admit his mistakes. And he really turned an underdeveloped agrarian country into a modern industrial superpower.

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  1. Do not call anyone nazii.
  2. I'm quite certain "z" symbol will be treated the same way as swastika is. Banned from public space. So would not be allowed here, just like NSFW stuff in avatars.
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i changed avatar, thanks for info

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Changing one z to another is not helping. Pun not intended but you play with fire.

Didn't see any country officially banning "Z" symbol (just like "V" that is on Russian tanks) but I will be in favor of banning them here if it happens. Would need to be decided between moderators though.

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It was not decided yet so I would not go out of the line and issue any suspensions for it.

But no amount of creativity will help if it happens. Switching plain swastika on someone's avatar to soldier running with swastika flag is not smart thing to do. Especially that avatar suspension is permanent - until someone changes image to something that doesn't break the rules. Not possible to wait out few days with short suspension and go back into forum with avatar that breaks the rules.

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I don 't really understand why we are talking about a swastika ?
The analogy about the symbol Z and the swastika somehow looks one-sided from the Ukrainian side of propaganda, don't you think so

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I used it as an example of some neo-nazi trying to go around the rules, as swastikas are now banned. It was not comparison of those two symbols.

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I would recommend a documentary called Ukraine on Fire (2016) to every person that loves Ukraine and their current regime. :)

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I see propaganda with you is strong. Please remind me what happened in Ukraine during ww2? How many jews, polaks, russians were exterminated by your loving heroes? Is Bandera still your national hero? Mikheil Saakashvili, now that's a beauty. Can you tell me something about how on earth did he become Odessa governor, being born in Georgia, ex Georgian president that fled to US and all? Aren't there any capable Ukrainians to govern Odessa? And why is his salary almost 200k $ per year that is funded by the US? Also under USSR regime everyone was equally subject to the same kind of difficulties except the ones that were inside the power structure of the party. Wasn't Leonid Brezhnev Ukrainian? What about Nikita Khrushchev? Yet they both where general secretaries of the USSR. How about all those people that burned alive in trade union building fleeing from Ukrainian pro maidan right wingers and searching refuge in 2014? I heard it was welcomed with applause on Ukrainian national tv station. There is a beauty of a video on the internet where senator Lindsey Graham visits Azov battalion, giving them a welcomed warmongering speech against Russia. moral support and whispering in their ears sweet nothings. Now that was hilarious. I can go on for days, brother. But my conclusion is that you are either a paid propaganda bot, simply a liar or very susceptible guy. Either way its of no importance. I would implore everyone and anyone to not believe everything. I would even go further and say do not believe anything and nobody. Not me and certainly not this guy. Steer clear of these kind of chats, main stream media reports or any information source that is fishy. Do your own research as much as you can, learn to think for yourself and do not form early conclusions just because its in trend, or you read something that was convenient for you at the time etc. I will conclude with great words from the great Edgar A. Poe. “Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see.” Especially now, in this day and age, where we are bombarded with misinformation left and right, day and night.

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Please remind me, home many Ukrainians were killed during Holodomor? How many russians ended up in gulag? So, Stalin is still your national hero? You really love when army invades other country, kills women and children, level cities? And yet you dare to talk about propaganda? Now that was hilarious.

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Your statement doesn't make sense at all. I'm not a supporter of communism and that by de facto means that I can't be supporter of Stalin. Even without that, Stalin can't be my national hero because me and Stalin aren't same nationality. So I really don't know where you got that picture. Probably from not knowing how to properly read or think. Nowhere did I imply that I love killings of women and children or any of that nonsense. On the contrary I explicitly indicated tens of thousands, if not hundred of thousands, victims of national socialist groups in western Ukraine that welcomed German invaders during WW2 as liberators. I also indicated killings of innocent pro Russia Ukrainian people inside burning trade union building that was celebrated by the likeminded groups. Your problem is that you can't look at people without separating them in this or that group, you need to have an enemy to exist. Just like Nato needs external threat constantly to justify its existence. Going against a statement that communist regime is equally brutal to anyone who opposes it, regardless of their nationality, religion, skin color or anything, just shows how deluded and angry you are. Again I will repeat my question, weren't Brezhnev and Khrushchev ethnically Ukrainians? You don't know that because you probably didn't read a single book in your life. Go on, google it, I know you will. :)

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There are monuments to Stalin in Ukraine, so it's supported by your government. And if you support Russia - you support Stalin. That's make as much sense as your claims above. Learn to think boy, it's useful skill and so rare in modern Russia sadly.

Nowhere did I imply that I love killings of women and children or any of that nonsense.

And yet you advocate war above, so yes, it means you do.

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I truly don't know if you are trolling me or you are less intelligent than average parrot to write that nonsense. I don't know even know where to begin my response to that logical abomination you just wrote.

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So, you don't like your own medicine, do you?

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Cringe.

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We established you don't read. I hope more people see for what a clown you are. :)

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In this reality people mostly see you as a clown.

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Sure they do cringy boy .

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Or in any reality that isn't Kremlin propaganda.

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But it's propaganda nevertheless

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True, but I doubt it's very effective. This narrative the Kremlin gremlins try to push have been debunked countless of times, but they keep pushing it. Which in the end only makes them less believable to begin with and makes them look more like clowns.

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Nowhere in my post did I show ethnic hatred. I just responded in a same or very similar manner you tried to discredit a documentary I just suggested. You tried to smear it, let me use your own words, by the exact same hatred you are mentioning conceived on "prejudice and preconception". I didn't attribute anything to you, like at all, but merely asked a few innocent questions that I know for a fact don't align with your current goal. That provoked you so hard that you couldn't resist your usual scripted response by playing on emotions and hurling baseless claims about a person you don't know at all. Instead of, lets say, discrediting me by answering at least some of the questions I posed. I think that would be more convincing way of showing people how I'm "full of hated".

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You are not very bright nor mannered, I see. I will repeat myself yet again, maybe you can catch it this time. I didn't attribute anything specifically to you, I didn't express any feelings about Ukrainian people in general, I didn't make any assumptions based on prejudice or preconception. I merely asked a few questions about things that actually happened, that aren't figment of people imaginations and that are, simply put, a fact. On the other hand we can see from your previous replies that you are the actual one who generalize people by labeling them as Russian zombies and conspiracy theorists if they do not succumb to your influence of thought and aren't part of your perception of the court of public opinion. Of course, all in hope to quickly shame them in public and discredit their arguments without breaking a sweat. You are a total and utter hypocrite that can't write a levelheaded sentence, even if your life depends on it. Continue copy/pasting useless media outlets. You are the real hero of this situation.

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When I write "you" and "your" I'm referring to you obviously. You really got me man, now please stop trying. Its embarrassing, funny and sad, all at the same time.

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Your attempts are failing hard, you are in panic. You want me to help you out there little buddy?

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Its funny, I must admit. You insulted me, yet you are the one who gets bothered. Fascinating. Good night brother and next time don't get so emotional and irrational like little girls when they get their period, lol.

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There is no other way to see your comment as to finding excuses for Russia to invade Ukraine and I totally understand why Q would sort of snap at you. This is on the same level as saying "But USA attacked .............". Yes they did and it in no way lessens what's been done now.

The war didn't have to happen. What do you want to point out here ? That UA has fucked up political system ? Does that justify what has been done ? It doesn't and that's why these "suggestions" of analyzing all the info are pretty much useless here - of course everyone should be wary of random stuff on the internet and should do their research and take none of whats in this thread at face value. Did you really think you are some superior genius whos the only one figuring this out ? It has absolutely no point but all edge.

From one side, of course - thank you for posting another source and opinion. But the simple truth is - Russia overstepped any boundary by this war and what they have done. At this point they need to be stopped and UA actually liberated from what it's being plagued by. Propaganda or not, Russia has occupied another country which is not acceptable.

Sorry if I'm coming off aggressive or something, don't take it personal, but living near Russia and being surrounded by brainwashed Russians who praise USSR and Putin really makes your perception of these "neutral" observes sound like dicks.

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Again with this embarrassing stuff. Stop repeating yourself man. I already said I can make you a bot account for these kind of things if you ask me nicely. I can even recommend you a few easy readings for you to start with, lol.

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No worries my man. I don't take these things personally as my friend from above. Well that is a thing. I'm not trying to find any excuses for Russia at all. I'm just tired of these kind of people with attributes of a bot that nonstop spam media links at people that may or may not be true, or may be partially true, yet when you try to discredit their claims or simply disagree with them they get all salty and bad mannered all of a sudden. If you not share my opinion you must be with them. you must be a communist, Russian bot, conspiracy theorist, fascist, nazi etc. They don't know how to properly respond so they hurl insults and baseless insinuations at you hoping that will be it. That's their natural response in these victimhood trendy times. And he didn't sort of snap on me, he really snapped at me which is comical. If I can't get a single truthful and reasoned response from him at least I got a little chuckle.

What I wanted to point out there is that OP is not neutral, that OP may or probably is constantly spreading propaganda and is really emotional when challenged even a little. That people shouldn't trust him so easily. As for your suggestion of me thinking that I'm a genius that just figured this thing out... That's silly. Of course not, even tho sometimes a guy can really get a false feeling of importance by noticing and simply indicating things that should be fairly obvious that they shouldn't even be mentioned.

Truth is never simple, my friend. Things are not as black and white as we like to often think and imagine. We don't live in a perfect world where everything is either a truth or a lie, there is a certain gray area that is often most critical and determining factor in realizing something for what it is. Putin didn't one day simply wake up on the wrong side of his bed and gone mad and all ham on Ukraine, as it is very often suggested by the Western outlets and politicians. In these days invading someone isn't a easy thing to pull off and is not something you would take as lightly as you did few hundreds years back. Russian Federation must have had a reason to do it and that is clearly a fact. Is that reason because Putin wants to expand Russia's territory, does he want natural or agricultural resources Ukraine have, does he want to form new military bases on its territory, were his intentions to really help suffering Russian populace in Eastern Ukraine that felt threatened by rising ultra nationalistic and fascist groups in the west of the country or is he coerced by US and NATO do so, were Ukrainians seduced by the false promises of the US that gave them wings to openly go against Russia? War is a dangerous thing, today especially, when multiple sides have nuclear weapons and cold war basically never stopped nor it will in foreseeable future. War is bad, killing innocent people is bad, destroying their homes and appropriating their land and valuables is bad and I truly believe 99% of the people honestly share my opinion. Yet in every war exactly same happens. I'm not arguing a war. I'm arguing a hypocrisy, I'm arguing the reasons, often easily and nonchalantly falsified, for which war started at all, not the war itself.

Not to mention expansion of NATO towards Russian borders starting from 1990', that's what you truly should be critiquing and calling out. Not just you, everyone. You don't come closer and closer, over the years, to a wounded bear that has nuclear weapons. You might piss him off or he might feel threatened and paranoically press that little red button that you are afraid of in the first place.

Also a little question. Why didn't we see the same exact reactions from media and the people as we are seeing now when Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia and many other "situations" happened? I know you said that yes they did happen and that in no way these situations lessen what's been done now. I would suggest a completely different way of thinking. It actually is lessening a situation that Ukraine is currently in because these other places that were war torn and ravaged weren't worth fighting for, protesting for or making charitable foundations for. Only Ukraine is, all of a sudden. Few years back we didn't give a flying duck about these other places but now we really do, we must stand against it and stop it at all costs. Don't you see a little bit of disconnect? Why should we care about Ukraine now when all these other places have been through much worse and nobody offered a helping hand, not even a nice word? Is it because this time Russia did it and is hindering plans of our US masters so we must be recruited asap and follow commands of our masters blindly?

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But my conclusion is that you are either a paid propaganda bot, simply a liar or very susceptible guy. Either way its of no importance.

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If you not share my opinion you must be with them. you must be a communist, Russian bot, conspiracy theorist, fascist, nazi etc. They don't know how to properly respond so they hurl insults and baseless insinuations at you hoping that will be it.

Isn't it weird how both of these comments were made by you?
Don't worry, I won't bother you beyond that. That you fail to respect the standards that you expect from others is telling me enough.

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It's really not that weird when you put them in context. That's what this new generation of internet warriors and activists severely lacks or intentionally omits to include.
I merely mentioned these kind of ideas primarily to test the waters with the guy I was conversing with, to get to know him a little bit better. Secondly I explicitly said that I answered in the same manner as him, meaning that I literary mimicked his way of conversing and name calling other people who don't agree with him. He called a very well versed and based in facts documentary a Russian propaganda, I insinuated he is a Western propagandist.
Even if that was true, what you just insinuated, you failed to spot a logical fallacy in your statement. My claims were not baseless. I have spoken nicely to him, nothing insulting or controversial, just asked him a few questions which are fairly easy to answer. In the very next reply he basically called me a Russian zombie, conspiracy theorist, somehow managed to concoct that I spread ethnic hatred based on a insinuations and what not.. A total looney tune of an answer. I didn't call him out because he doesn't share my opinions, I called him out because he acted like a woman on her period, all emotional and angry with me, hurling insults and bad insinuations, when I just asked him a few simple questions that he easily could have answered, or choose not to? and be done with it. But no salty boy must screech and press violently buttons on his keyboard like true internet warrior, a true modern day hero of Ukraine and its people.

So there is no failure on my end, no matter how you try to spin it. And you are right, you indeed shouldn't bother me because your failure to read and understand the situation told me more than enough about your sincerity and comprehension abilities.

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Anyways watch Ukraine on Fire if you have any interest in this topic. That's all I wanted to do in this thread. To recommend a documentary movie that offered different perspective from the rest of the western world about origins of this war. But propagandist bot couldn't resist not to call it a Putin propaganda, even if it was created by Oliver Stone.

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There is NO other perspective to war and invasion. You either invade or not, and that's it. If there were peace and we argued "what is better, Ukraine or Russia" - then yes, you could have indeed bring up issues of Ukraine in this argument. But current situation is that russians are ruthless invaders, and ukrainians just protect their home. No internal issues can change this fact. So, you are just looking for excuses for war crimes, and that's it. Of course you, as the rest of russians, will never admit that what you do is wrong.

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Again this bot is typing gibberish. Again I'm not Russian you bozo and I'm literary not doing anything. The amount of stupid that comes from you is staggering. Try to refrain yourself from typing and embarrassing yourself further. Again, I would recommend everyone to watch Ukraine on Fire(2016) documentary piece by Oliver Stone. Ignore these paid bots that try to mislead you from it. Just give it a try and make up your own mind.

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Of course OP is not neutral. He is Ukrainian and I can assure you I would want to see the whole Russia suffer if my country would be occupied by them.

Yes - of course Putin and his party had plans of this beforehand. Which makes it even more horrible. He didn't go on a whim and "underestimated" results. He very well knew what war costs - counting Russians lives as well as Ukrainian lives. War is not an answer. Any reason he had that was valid could have been solved by diplomacy. Let's indulge in the cesspit of lies from Russia a bit - let's say UA had been oppressing Russian citizens. I know the idea is ridiculous - but how about instead of sacrificing young boys from your own population, invest the money in building a new city and offering ways to move to Russia huh ? Build up your own economy, save all the poor Russians. Now every smart person is leaving Russia, people have died and the result is complete shitshow. If Putin thought a war is better then solving stuff diplomatically then he is stupid piece of shit, which I doubt he is, so the war had lot more deeper reasons which IMO includes RUS failing domestic political situation and his influence as well as delusional dreams of USSR.

As for NATO - all in all this argument is pretty flawed. I really dont want to get into details because I dont think you or anyone else opposing west will care either way, but in short - NATO is not a country for starters. If bunch of countries on your border wants to join an organization that protects them against you, then the problem is in you not them. Secondly Russia had only Baltics bordering them, so being surrounded by NATO in itself is flawed argument. Its simply an easy excuse for Putin that many will back up because this has been of course a risk since NATO started that has been recognized by NATO itself. I wont deny dirty politics and some influence from NATO that caused all of this.... but basing the war on this is ... well... stupid

As for other conflicts around the world - I'll be blunt.... they where not in fact worth fighting for, protesting or supporting. Humans are self-centered and arrogant. We don't care for whats going on on the other side of the world. Ukraine is an eye opener for many. It's not just USA (which for the record I consider a fucked up country, so Im not some west loving troll) that has had a free reign on war crimes. You want to say Russia is less barbaric around middle east and Africa ? Then you truly live in Putins propaganda wonderland. Wagner group already has 300 civilians killed on their rep in Mali while UA war is going on. Hear anyone talk about that ? Of course not. Russian war crimes around the world are as hidden as is USA's and I would hardly call supporting UA a hypocrosy.

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Just a little digression.
Russia obviously has even longer tradition of imperialism. Some argue that Putin actually looks up to Tsarist empire & its idea of Great Russia over somehow failed project of Soviet "empire" - which in the end was yet another form of imperialism despite it sworn fight with worldwide imperialism. Apparently it doesn't stop him from using Soviet methods in attempts to achieve his goals too.

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I don't care which side he is on. I care about his honesty, diligence and integrity. He lacks all of those. He doesn't believe the words he speaking or he simply doesn't know what he is speaking about. I even think he isn't able to speak properly. Everything is fake with these kind of people, they don't believe in anything and will believe everything if its presented the way they like it. As I said multiple times already, he is , bluntly put, a simple propagandist robot, a copy/paste machine of bbc news links.

Again you are insinuating that Putin and his "party", whatever that means, had plans of this and many other things beforehand. By saying party you are, again baselessly suggesting RF is led by communist regime where the boss is Putin, I guess? Total wild claim. And yes, the job of country leaders is to access situations, plan their actions and predict future events, prepare for those future events and eventually effectively execute their plans. Shocker, right? War always has costs and if you truly believe that he wasn't aware of those costs or that he wanted his people to die I don't know what to say. You do realize that Russia was trying diplomacy for the last 8 years? Something tells me you can't come that easily with solutions when your counterparts are admirers of national socialism and ethnically clean Ukraine... What should he have done? Let Russian people in the east be sacrificed like lambs in Old Testament? Don't be naive and gullible.
Again you go with these wild ideas of Russians simply moving to Russia and leaving Ukraine. I don't know if I even should gratify that with an actual answer. Let's all black people that are in the US move back to Africa, or latinos to Central/ South America.. Lets move all gypsies back to India or whatever place they originated from, lets move all of the jews from Europe and NA back to Middle East. Your dreamlike propositions are ridiculous and laughable. Anyways, your complete negligence of US influence in this region over the last few decades baffles me. Tell me how did the US react when Russia had nuclear weapons in Cuba? Do you think that even a possibility of having nuclear warheads near a country would make that country afraid, prone to aggressive reactions? Well Ukraine is certainly a possibility where nukes could be placed, only 800 km or so away from Moscow.

My argument is not flawed, like, not at all. Nato of course is not a country but an organization funded and controlled by the US. Do you really believe all these countries joined an military organization just because they are afraid of Russia? Frist of all, Russia was in shambles after decomposition of USSR in 1990 and was in no way threat to anyone. What exactly happened when USSR ceased to exist? NATO was formed under promises it wont expand further East, the lines were clear. US almost instantly broke these promises and started expanding even tho they knew that closer they come to Russian borders the situation will be worse. Not just for them but for the whole world. All of these countries joined NATO, not because they were threatened by Russia or any of that but because they gained certain benefits otherwise they wouldn't have. They also joined NATO because they felt threatened by the exact same NATO if another conflict breaks out and they remain a land of the non-aligned in the middle of it. NATO basically came to their borders and what do you do when something like that happens? YOU JOIN THEM IF YOU CAN, AS QUCIKLY AS YOU CAN. Also many European countries, especially ones in the Eastern Europe, wanted to join European Union and NATO not because they share their European values, military threats or anything ridiculous like that, but because EU granted them economical reliefs, benefits and trade opportunities they otherwise wouldn't have and condition for that was to let their military build bases and place nukes on your land pointed at Russia. It was basically a promise of an easy money for no work at all, by just joining them.

The thing is that US war crimes around the world aren't hidden at all and that is a big problem for them and for the propagandist bots. Many things are getting uncovered and people are continuously left in disbelief. There is no comparison to US in that regard, not by a long shot. Even thinking that would be reaching it, extremely reaching it. And why is Ukraine exactly an eye opener for all and not all those other places? Try to ask yourself that question truthfully and don't get salty when you come to an conclusion. Wouldn't Western globalized propaganda have a hand in that?
Also what are you talking about? Literary every single western media is talking about Wagner Groups alleged killings in Mali bro. It is an open season at Russia after all. I truly think you need to get your head out of your ass and start critically thinking about both sides. It may sound like I'm here to defend Russia, but that is just my reaction to all the stuff you just spew in defense of Ukraine, West, Nato, EU and ultimately of US. Otherwise if I didn't do that we would seem to agree, yet in that situation we would both swallow a large portion of lies and propaganda West is continuously and overtime pushing onto us these days.

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Nice edit. No worries I will wholeheartedly respond to this as well. You are seriously getting salty because I suggested to people that they shouldn't believe anything you say but rather think and search for themselves? That's so classy and highly academic response man, nothing but respect. Oh, by the way I didn't see anything that you previously presented in your post and comments, that is not from a western or western influenced media outlets and that doesn't fit your narrative. That shows me that you must have done a really, really excellent research, XD. You are nothing but a copy, paste machine my friend. I could have arranged a bot account that would to that for you if you asked me nicely.

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You are insulting me, hahahah. Delusional my man.

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The OP was talking about USSR so I think it was quite necessary to mention WW2, clown.

The same goes with new media reports you are waving around. You can write anything you want and present them however you want." Are they true, weeeeeeeeeeell... that's not really important, you should explicitly trust them and trust me. See the title, see pictures it must be true... We never had a problem in our history with propaganda, photoshopped pictures, faked videos and plain lying." That's how you sound. Delusional, emotional and extremely angry.

Tell me kind sir are you an eye witness of this particular crimes of the "Putin's Army"? Who are the people that are lying down there dead, what are their names? What are the names of the soldiers that executed them? From which weapons bullets were fired? Do you have any actual proof besides news report and a few pictures? The simplest truth there is is that you don't know a thing about anything, same as any other person. You just know how to paste a link and screech when somebody questions you and your motive.

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You are the one living under propaganda.
You ask for names of Ukrainian victims. I can give you one, Ruslan Nechyporenko.
War in Ukraine: 'I saw a Russian soldier shoot my father dead in Bucha'

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BBC News, oh wow. Very trusted source. BBC, the creme de la creme of modern journalistic integrity. You convinced me with your BBC link, it must be true. I can't question the mighty BBC.

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So, we can't question your fictional movie, but you can question BBC? Nice position, nice indeed.

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Go back to watching Sponge Bob Square pants. These kind of movies are just what you need and can understand, lol.

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Sorry, I'm not a fan of modern shit you kids watch.

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Don't lie to me kid.

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Stop pretending that you're 60 years old, that's ridiculous.

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I'm not but I can be your daddy if you need one.

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You still into child games, I see. Not surprising at all.

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waiting for new fakes
https://coub.com/view/30tnyh

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You mean, you are waiting for new fakes that you will post here? Good bot.

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бомбит от правды?

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Тебя - однозначно.

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Vienna's Fridays for Future street protest for climate, 4 February 2022:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o3Rph8DcUY

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Hahaha Tucker Carlson...
Oh boi, we are in trouble now.

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It's the first time I hear about Maajid Nawaz, but I must admit he has a point. People like to think in blacks and whites.
If Putin is bad, that doesn't mean Zelensky is good. If Zelensky is bad, that doesn't mean Putin is good. If you see other country's propaganda and lies, that doesn't mean your own head isn't full of propaganda and lies.

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Nobody said we don't have internal issues in Ukraine. But those are called internal for a reason, and they can't, in any case, be an excuse for invading the country, leveling cities and killing woman and children. Stop advocating war. When Russia will retreat, when Russia will pay retributions for all they've done, when all russian war criminals will be punished - well, then you are welcome to discuss ukrainian internal issues. And we will discuss russian internal issues too.

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I didn't advocate the war. Stop looking for enemies, or you will turn hostile even those who were initially sympathetic to your case.

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Oh, how nice, people who pay money to keep this war going are sympathetic to "my case". Can you be even more hypocritical?

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I understand you're angry and confused, it's okay. I hope you'll feel better soon.

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I'd love to know what that voiceover translator is saying, but having seen this broadcast, I can categorically state it has nothing to do with justifying Russia's invasion and if that is what is being stated or implied, it's a lie.

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Twitter bans US Marine for questioning Ukraine narrative
Platform says USMC veteran and former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter violated “targeted harassment” rule
Twitter bans US Marine for questioning Ukraine narrative

Twitter “permanently suspended” the retired US Marine Corps officer Scott Ritter on Wednesday, accusing him of engaging in prohibited behavior by questioning the claims of Ukrainian authorities that Russian soldiers had massacred civilians in Bucha near Kiev. Ritter is best known as the former UN weapons inspector who doubted US claims about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, invoked by Washington as a pretext for the 2003 invasion.

“So apparently I’ve been suspended from Twitter for the crime of challenging the orthodox narrative of the so-called Bucha massacre,” Ritter said on his Telegram channel, sharing a screenshot of the message he received from the Big Tech platform.

“I’ve appealed, so who knows what the future will bring,” Ritter said, adding that “Freedom of speech in America today is an endangered concept.”

According to the screenshot, Twitter’s censors had decided that Ritter violated their rules against “harassment and abuse” by saying the Ukrainian police had committed crimes against humanity in Bucha, and were trying to shift blame onto Russia with US help.

Ritter’s tweet did not contain calls for abuse or harassment, or wish physical harm on anyone, Shadowproof journalist Kevin Gosztola pointed out, arguing that his ban “shows how Twitter Rules can be twisted to silence US foreign policy critics.”

The rules were recently updated to include “denying mass casualty events took place,” Gosztola noted, but he said Ritter hadn’t done that, either.

The truth about Bucha is out there, but perhaps too inconvenient to be discovered
Read more The truth about Bucha is out there, but perhaps too inconvenient to be discovered
In an op-ed published by RT on Monday, Ritter had examined the Ukrainian allegations that the withdrawing Russian troops had massacred civilians on their way out of Bucha, pointing out a number of inconsistencies and “red flags” with them and putting them in the context of the propaganda war raging parallel to the ongoing military conflict.

Grayzone’s Aaron Mate also pointed out that there was nothing that fit the definition of “targeted harassment” in Ritter’s flagged tweet, and asked Twitter to “please undo” the ban.

“You’re suspending a decorated Marine Corps veteran and former chief UN weapons inspector who bravely warned the world about the Bush [administration’s] Iraq WMD lies. Silencing voices of dissent will make your platform un-usable,” Mate tweeted.

Ritter is a retired US Marine who had inspected Soviet weapons under the now-defunct INF treaty, worked as the chief UN weapons inspector in Iraq from 1991 to 1998, and served on the staff of General Norman Schwarzkopf during the first Gulf War.

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From Wikipedia: "and since December 2019, Ritter has written op-eds for RT."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter#Recent_activities

Surely not related at all.

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ukrainian pedo sentenced to 15 years of prison for molesting his step daughter set himself on fire ramming russian embasy in Romania a few days ago, you've opened that can of worms, not me!

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Braindead much ? He was Romanian. Stop spreading your propaganda.

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his last statement was I am ukrainian, whatever!

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Ok, sorry. Came a bit too strong on there previously.

as for that guy - he was Romanian, but that "I am Ukrainian" was supposedly some kind of solidarity statement.
don`t get me wrong, dude was piece of shit. Deserved what happened to him... not defending him here

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probably translation issues, I got it from local radio.

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But it's you who refers to opinion of pedo, not me.

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You said the word, ad-hominem attack on Ritter! Keep going!

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I was just stating the facts. And you seems to advocate not only war, but also pedos, right?

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what facts, the only fact is your ad hominem attack!

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He is a convicted pedophile, on the Kremlin's payroll and spreads disinformation and Russian propaganda. It's very educational to check out his interviews from a few weeks ago on how braindead and dishonest his takes are. For example in this video from February 24th he claims right at the beginning that Mariupol has fallen to Russia in an hour and that Russian troops are already in Odessa and it's all over for Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GkmdCaBECs

Absolutely embarrassing stuff.

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The BND intercepted Russian military radio traffic in which the murder of civilians in Bucha was discussed. Some of the intercepted radio traffic can apparently be directly linked to dead bodies that have been photographed in Bucha.

Source

Of course I expect our Putin-pals to either claim that this radio traffic was staged by Ukrainians or that we Germans are all Nazis and therefore naturally cover the Ukrainian Nazis false flag operation..

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It always amuses me to think of a Jewish Nazi being Ukrainian president. On the other hand Adolf Schickelgruber(better known as A.Hitler) is also rumored to have had Jewish ancestors.
If I'd be a conspiracy theorist I'd suspect the Chinese Jews behind all this.

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It's always the Chinese, isn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEy5vIWCJLQ

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google translate local news, note date - https://www.rbc.ua/rus/styler/legenda-prizrake-buchi-schetu-50-ubityh-vragov-1648576541.html
as there were no reported russians killed, you'd wonder who did that mad ghost killed in real world...

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Because russia reports their losses accuretely, riiight. We don't know the actual losses, or if this man-legend is actually real, just like the "ghost of Kyiv".

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