Group giveaways shouldn't count towards contribution value!

There are private groups for more than friends. Some are to give unlucky users a chance, others are for high volume collectors, more for active members of the community (your 0 comments show you would never qualify), etc. As long as it isn't a group of friends doing fake giveaways, there is nothing wrong with it.

Same reason why someone with low CV is not allowed to enter your giveaways for contributors only.

I don't say there is something wrong with private/group giveaways. I say as stated in the topic - they shouldn't count towards contribution value which allows in turn to enter contributor only giveaways (not group restricted ones).

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You don't understand me.

example:

there's a guy with 2000$ contribution value - all of those contributions were group giveaways - i'm not in that group so i couldn't join. Now i create a giveaway for contributors - let's say minimum CV 100$ - but not group-restricted. Why should this guy with 2000$ CV be allowed to join my giveaway? I wasn't allowed to join his.

I mean: if someone made a giveaway for a group only (or a private one) - he didn't actually contributre anything to the community - he contributed only to that group of his

Contributor-only giveaways will be gone with SG v2.0 so there's really nothing to discuss here. For the 1000th time.

i´d just random say that a Giveaway should only count when atleast a certain number of persons join :/

I largely agree, but the CV system is horribly broken anyway. Ironically, if you want your giveaways to reach those who contribute in the right way, the best solution is to make a group for them. :) Personally I gave up making giveaways and just use keydrops and puzzles now.

This kind of topic are so annoying, boring, nerd and selfish.

Oh boy... here we go again...

But how will people raise their CV for free with their smurf accounts then?
http://www.steamgifts.com/forum/clZ9E/so-who-has-multiple-steam-accounts

CV shouldn't even exist if you ask me, but that's another topic altogether.

If some people only do group giveaways, how does that hurt you exactly? You should only make group giveaways if it bothers you so much. Almost every gifter started with public giveaways, so you really don't have the right to complain. Unlike most people on the site, they have already proven their generosity and more importantly, most are trustworthy. If I were you, I'd prefer gifting to people like that instead of the hoards of leeches that will take and never give back. Or what about the people who try to boost their CV with price exploits? There are far worse people entering your giveaways.

I primarily create group giveaways, but I don't join public giveaways anyways. Every once in a while I join in public forum events to give back to the entire community and each time I leave disappointed that a leech got the game instead of someone who at least bothered to say thanks. You should ponder that yourself.

The key words seem to be "(and not accessible by me)" - I'm sure that's not how you want it to sound, but why do people often use the word fair when they really mean less for you, and more for me? :)

If some generous person wants to give brand new, expensive games to his circle of friends, it doesn't hurt the rest of us. Good for them. If you want to restrict giveaways with some rules you've devised, first ask the support people to approve your rules, then make a private giveaway in the forum - you can't make rules on public giveaways. You could ask for something like "restricted to people who have $100 CV from public giveaways" or "restricted to people with red hair" - whatever you think is fair. :)

Is this some rant about CV again, can't you just have that feeling of giving away something for nothing in return?

This is the reason I stopped caring about CV.

just because you giveaway games in a group, doesnt mean you havent given anything away.

its still generosity.

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So with this logic, private giveaway shouldnt also count for CV and also your "contributor only"- giveaways..cause you also only let enter a "specific" group to your giveaways...
So next time you wanna post something like this, first think about what you are doing wrong! ;)

So ... I'm a bad contributor? :(
But wait .. I've never won any public GA, only Group/Private, but I've given out a bunch of public GA's .. THAT'S NOT FAIR, I DEMMAND WINNING PUBLIC GA'S RIGHT NOW!

Wait...a guy who won 2 public giveaways in his first 4 weeks, who has not a single comment except the ones here in the forum and who contributed bundle games only is talking about contributing to the site and that group and private ones are bad?

Dude... Its contributing to SG. Private and Group giveaways are part of SG. People still buy these games you know. If you don't want them to enter your giveaways either make a group yourself or do it private with special rules.

If this is about "My chances would be better if..." then even worse as you are already pretty much above your average wins already.

Other than that: What Mindestens said

The world doesn't revolve around you, nor does Steamgifts and the generous people who give away games. They are (as are private giveaways) for the Steamgifts community, just a smaller selection. People are still contributing games to others, hence there is no reason as to why they should not get CV.

Congrats for making my shitlist wider.

I'm still looking for the hidden giveaway...

It's their game. Let them decide how they want to give it away.