How many of my brothers and sisters have been unjustly jailed too?
i know these threads end up bad, just based on experience.
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I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six banned by SG mods.
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Can I demand a trial by combat? I think duels are still allowed in Canada in some capacity.
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Actually, that can land you up to 2 years in prison.
Sauce: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-71.html
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http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/en-garde-dueling-will-soon-be-legal-canada-180963653/
I think they were changing it.
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It was part of a bill they introduced earlier in the year, but as of right now it seems to still be on the books.
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Looks like it. I don't think trial by combat is legal either, except perhaps in some old city statute.
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Yeah, it's interesting what old laws you can find still on the books because no one bothered repealing them. Like in Georgia, USA, simple assault - like slapping someone - is legal if the person has "uttered fightin' words".
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Nah. If there's anything I trust less than those in power, it's my fellow peers :3
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You must be in a country where the government fears the people instead of the other way around.
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You signed (Well, Clicked the button) for the TOS... Legally, no Jury is required.
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Your right.
You signed away your rights to be a complete D. Bag and agreed to act like a responsible adult. xD
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That makes sense, because SteamGifts is owned and operated by the Canadian government.
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But the prison is free. I mean, for most SG'ers this should be what they asking for, eh? Maybe the prisoners aren't trading cards, but surely cigarettes and drugs ..
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I've technically been unjustly banned before because of a technicality but fuck that, let's turn this place into a tyranny.
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Having learned that being suspended is equivalent to being jailed
Today's a good day to contemplate the difference between analogous and equivalent. Being suspended is like being jailed. It's also like a child getting a timeout, or like dying and being reborn, but not equivalent to them.
I actually favor some sort of due process, which I cam to realize after receiving a shadowban on another site. Once I became aware of it, had no problem getting it lifted since there wasn't a reason for it (by which I don't mean the mod was too harsh, I mean as far as the moderator who lifted the ban and I could tell, there wasn't a reason, and the mod who leveled the ban was no longer with the site, so it's possible it was simply human error). Without having even been informed of the shadowban, I didn't know there was a problem to fix, so my links to reviews, scientific papers or medical research (it's a tech blog) and earnest attempts to be helpful in my comments were simply unseen, wasted effort.
Suspension isn't equivalent to being jailed, but it's analogous to it as being part of a system to regulate civil behavior under a set of rules. Failures of the system may have less serious consequences, but they're still failures, and guards against failure - such as simple awareness of the need to appeal possibly wrongful indefinite ban in the case of a shadowban - are a good idea.
This may also be a good time to think about Poe's Law, given your new avatar. Do you really want your representation to be someone stomping the viewer?
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Nah, I get it, it's just something I happened to have been thinking about prior to this, when the issue of user banning came when Neo-Nazi Chris Cantwell was banned for life from OkCupid following the Charlottesville attack that killed Heather Heyer. I agree with that ban (he violated the TOS on conduct - a common reason for bans on dating sites, I imagine). At the same time, as the importance of our online presence in our lives grows, so does the importance of having processes by which customer relationships (including their suspension or termination) are managed.
For example, Facebook is used as a login to many sites now - as someone who doesn't have an account there and doesn't want one, I've noticed it's a genuine obstacle for dealing with some sites. Facebook would like their importance to increase, while other vendors are looking to move into similar roles (with network neutrality seeming to be on the ropes in the current political climate) the potential for access providers to act as gatekeepers is growing. It'd be overthinking to put this on SteamGifts moderators as if they were a keystone in user rights, but in the way a child getting a timeout is analogous (but not equivalent to) jail-time, there's a fractal-like self-similarity of the problem of rules and discipline (and how the process can fail) at various levels, from Steamgifts moderation up to the legal system. I'm not suggesting any changes for Steamgifts, just commenting on the analogous nature of the systems.
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Or I guess you could say I am overthinking it at this level because I think it needs thinking at other levels, and smaller, simpler systems can be seen as models for larger, more complex ones.
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I'll answer the last question. Yes. The avatar was only temporary for another troll post of mine acting as the leftist strawmen everyone talks about here, but that thread got closed and me suspended. However the extreme leftist image also works well with the image I'm putting forth in this thread, "fighting for our rights", so i saw no need to change it back
Also the avatar is stomping white nationalists, which is a message I do want to send to them and wouldn't mind being represented like that. But it seems that sg has synced back to my actual steam avatar so that's gone.
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are you saying that you want to bring back konrad because he might not be guilty ??? ???
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Jury trials ain't fast or fair. As such I stand against this system!
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Having learned that being suspended is equivalent to being jailed, I propose that us sg users are not banned or suspended by support members without a fair and speedy trial by a jury of our peers.
Steamgifts is based in 720 King St W, Suite 453, Toronto, ON M5V 3S5, Canada, and therefore we should be afforded those rights on this site if we are able to lose our rights by essentially being jailed.
Section 11(f) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms provides that
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