So Blizzard just anounced that Overwatch will not be F2P and you will have to pay $40 for the normal and $60 for the Origins Edition.

Is this a bad move from them or people will still throw money at them?

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Are Blizz screwing themself again?

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wow wtf

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Dafuqbro?

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Yes

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Looks like TF2 is gonna be juuust fine.

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Dead? Really?

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If you played a game for 5 years and are now losing interest, it does not mean that the game is crap now. 5 years for a F2P game that is not an MMO is pretty good. Plus with competitive matchmaking in the works, I'm plenty exited about the future of the game.

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So you just showed us that TF2 lost ~6k players in the past months. How's that an argument against losing players?

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Look at the whole picture. It's pretty damn consistent. Over the past year it's been consistenly 55k to 60k average players and around 90k peak players. The previous year actually had lower numbers.

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I need Overwatch
People will throw their money at it

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There are enough Blizzard fanboys that they will sell enough of it but personally I won't be buying it. There are already a lot of similar games, most of which are free.

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The game looks fun, but for $40/60 and a possibility to buy skins again - no I will pass probably too. Still they show a greedy model again and they will never learn.

And to be honest I'm curios about how they've managed to steal that much design from Read Dead Redemption's protagonist: McCree

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YEP FanBoyssss will buy that.
In my in my opinion Blizz make BAD decision and Overwatch will end like Diablo 3 ...
There are also a lot of titles with similar gameplay coming out soon that will be F2P like:

  • Gigantic
  • LawBreakers
  • Paladins

MY HYPE go Downnnn sad ;/

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It is still a team play game like TF2 - definetly better to use F2P model if you want to play with the big dogs

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Nah, they have entered on other markets with worst games than competition and can sell pretty good. Whatever they made will get millions of people in, even if costs that price and it's just the tip. Basically they are the big dog.

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It's not about the markets...it's about the game itself ;)

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To be more on topic, on my opinion it's not a bad move from their part.
A bad move was charging to watch their promotional video conference. And people jumped in, so why not charge for real content? No one will blame them if they use an argument written in 5 minutes. Fanboys will accept, agree and defend.

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We are not talking about the fanboys here. We are talking about the random guys like me...like you. That have to be convinced to pay 40$ for a f2p looking game.

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I'm not against Buy to Play games, some of them are really worth it ( Guild Wars being a good example). That said, $40 dollars for the base game feel a bit pricey to me. If it was $20 to $25, I would have bought it. The current price is too much for me.

Many people keep comparing it to TF2, and it must be said that TF2 also started out as a Buy to Play game. They went F2P only after 4 years post launch. Maybe we can expect something same from Blizzard. At its current form, I don't think it will be feasible for it to go F2P either. I mean for a game to be F2P, you need some form of monetization ( usually in the form of skins etc). At its current stage, I don't think they have enough options available to them for monetization.

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Guild Wars is a game build ages ago too and to be honest I doubt that they made as close to Valve as money from TF2

They can simply use the same model as HoTS?

And yes you are correct about TF2, but that was ages ago... nowdays you have too many options on the F2P shooters market and Overwatch have to be one hell of a game to match the price tag.

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Ahh but you are missing my second point. How will they make money if the game is free? even in HotS, the skins were ridiculously overpriced and you could spend money on skins, champ unlocks and mounts. So many different sources of money.

In a game like Overwatch, what would you charge the player for? There are only skins ( to my understanding ).

At the beginning companies are more interested in recouping their development costs rather than a steady income. Even games like League of Legends, which is F2P now, was sold for $20 in the beginning and the collectors edition was $40 or something (I know because I bought it). Its not about how old the game is or how many competition you have, if the game is worth it, then there will be people ready to pay for it.

Overwatch has the graphical fidelity and overall gameplay mechanics to charge for it but I do agree with you in that I have serious doubts on whether it can match its pricetag.

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Boost,Skins,Maps...etc. They can think of something to milk people out. A price tag of $20 will be great and even more people would buy it.

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Agreed. I wish it was $20 game too.

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they will make enough money from overwatch. But it has no chance to become a super popular title with that business model. For me it died. The genre isn't my favorite so I'm surely not gonna pay 40 bucks just to "try it out". And why would any TF2 (or similar shooter) player consider changing to OW now?

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It depends on what people want. If the player base wants to try out something new ( after playing the same game for a long time) they will try out the competition. Though the paywall will certainly keep a large portion of it out. Considering this is Blizzard we are talking about, they will probably make a decent amount of money out of it and go on to push the game on the competitive scene too as they did with Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm.

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Paying $40 for trying something? Nah nah...no thank you. If it was 20-25 more people would throw money at them...and honestly I think this price tag comes mainly cause of the consoles.

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That is what I said. $20-25 would be fair. $40 is too much for me.

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Time will tell though, Blizz and Activision are the masters when it comes to milking money from their fans

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I haven't said they said anything about F2P but as the way the game looks - people did expected F2P

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I'm not mad, but I wouldn't pay $40 for a game that looks like TF2 on steroids. At least in TF2 you can make money out of it...what can you make money out of Overwatch?

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That was my point exactly - $20-25 is the max for that type of game. We will see...If i hit something from the lottery I will buy the $60 version just for the Diablo wings they r smexy

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A good laptop maybe...a PC needs too much space :D

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People was expecting it to be f2p because no matter how you sugar it, it just a class based fps with a pseudo moba ability system, that is only gloryfied because is made by blizzard

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WoW , Diablo and Starcraft aren't F2P too so I'm shocked at all =d
Seems like HoTS and Hearthstone don't bring enough money...

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Actually Hearthstone brings a lot of money...for HoTS not so sure - Dota 2 and LoL are way ahead there

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Well they are actually free (the standard edition), you have to pay to have the ''full expirience''

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Just like if you play the demo of a game you have to pay for the full game. only logical.

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Blizzard can do the worst stuff and people will buy it by the millions. Sure, they may have to redesign the entire game once or twice or release more than hundred patches, but people still regard them as the best of the industry. For some reason.

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Yeah it is a mistery...

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I actually don't mind that it will be b2p, I would mind if future heroes and maps were behind a paywall.
Plus, from what I read, you don't get beta access if you pre-order and even if you did, I would not buy it atm before we know more about the way they will handle future heroes.

Also, I don't know if f2p would have really worked for Overwatch or if it was feasible, since the composition of a team is constantly changing based on what you need to do and who you play against, so you need to have access to plenty of heroes, you can't have a business model like LOL for example. Yeah, I guess they could have gone the tf2 route but that would have been too good to be true.

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I only mind the price tag. In this type of games both models work depending on the game. I still will prefer like 10-15 heroes and option to buy more heroes later on a f2p over paying $40-60

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40$ I guess is a bit too much for this type of game, especially if you will have to pay for future heroes. I for one hoped for something like Smite, X amount of money and you get all current heroes and future ones. I guess because it is a FPS, Blizz does not think they will make that much money from skins. 40$ for the game and only have skins for sale would have been great for me. oh well.

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I agree. I could have seen them taking a F2P + paid skins route like Dota 2. It would have been bad with a LoL-like model with restricted champions though. I think I personally prefer a b2p model (I'll probably just hope for a good discount though; does Blizzard do those?) since f2p communities are usually pretty toxic. I'm also still worried Blizzard will release future expansions with heroes that willll divide the player base. And +1 to never buying a game without knowing all the details.

Also, were was all this Overwatch love a week ago?

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I think the hype of people who thought this would be free 2 play destroyed it. If it would be announced when we first saw that game, as a buy 2 play title, everyone would be fine with that. I don't care about that prize. The game looks cool, I like the graphics, I like the heroes, I like the maps so why shouldn't I spend 40€ on that ?
Comparing that to TF2 is just dumb I think. Both are comic-style objective shooters= same game ? No!
I really hate TF2 tbh. I tried it again and again but it was just bad. All the new games that are coming out, these " triple AAA "- titles selling their games from 60-70€ so why is 40€ too much ?

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I don't think it's the initial price tag alone but the fact that the whole game is pretty much designed in a way to later ask for tons of money for additional content which you will need to stay in the game. Like how WoW is "free", yet if you want to actually do anything in it, you must buy all the expansions for the level unlocks, which makes the "free" game cost what now? 120€, plus the monthly subscription, plus possible microtransactions…

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And why it is dumb? Because it comes from Blizzard? The price tag is high. The game is not something new as an idea(Warframe, TF2, Dirty Bomb...etc.) and on top of that B2P + extra milking - yeah this is one of the Blizz main courses in their history.

And you compare a game like Witcher 3(60 euro AAA gam) to this?

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For some is, well not for me though for some others Overwatch is.
The " extra milking " is skins ? I actually don't care about skins.
They said that new heroes and new maps are gonna be free.
And I think 40€ is fine. The fact that everyone thought it would be free to play makes it such a big thing right now, I guess. But I like the game and like every reviewer said that this is in an better status in Beta than other games that are released already.
I don't pay 40€ for the idea but for the game. I played Warframe and TF2 but It's just not my game but Overwatch is) <-- Just my opinion how I feel !

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Yeah paying for a game + extra skins(dlc's) is milking.
Don't get me wrong I wouldn't mind it that much if it was with a normal 20 euro price tag(Hell CS:GO is 20 bucks and u can get what you paid for from drops). 40 is way too much for a game that is destined(gamewise) to be F2P.

Thanks to fans like you Blizz are making this amount of money even from a big crap like WoW(ffs update your graphics to 2015 already).

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After thinking more about it, you're right. There are a lot of cool games out there(also with better graphics) that costs way less.

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:/

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Some Blizzard fanboys will buy it for that price, but I'm quite disappointed about it not beeing free to play.
I mean there are just so many other games which can be played for less.. but hey, its blizzard

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Yeah, if anyone else would have made it, probably not even tenth of the people would have heard about it or be interested in it in the slightest. It's like how Destiny was hyped because of Bungie, and we know how that 100 million dollars turned out to be. (Had to bribe to get an award, spent another year and millions to redo the entire game, changing core aspects twice or thrice now to make it finally playable.)
Otherwise, it would probably be another Titanfall. Another MP-only FPS that comes, burns bright for two months, then everyone leaves it for the next similar one.

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I already threw my money at them (bought the 60€ edition) so...no, they aren't screwing themself.

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Having less people playing your game is a pretty major screw up. A lot of people will not buy it at this price tag(bare in mind that on 2 of the biggest markets - Russia and China - this is a lot of money)

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Disagree, MAY be better 1M users who paid 40€ than 10M who hasn't paid and maybe some months or years later purchase a map or character for 10€ or a skin for 5€. Also bear in mind server costs.

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If they do it like Valve - tons of money ;)

Keep in mind that Valve made like 60mil just from TI5 ;)

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Valve has a lot of avantage currently. For example it's not the same making a trading system and a marketplace for a game or maybe useful for two or three games in the long term than doing it to be used by tens of games developed by other companies.

They do a lot of things that by themselves have no much sense based on the cost, because they will make profit on long term putting those functions available for the entire industry and charging the customers or the developers directly or indirectly.

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Blizz had the auction house and I'm pretty sure they made quite a good amount of money from that one ;) They can implement something similar and still make a lot of money

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I know, sure they can, still they have a much worst situation.

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Much worse then this is taking the Activision road on the CoD games ;)

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I honestly excepected it to be f2p, so I won't gonna get it for a while untill we see a sale. Although they already have alot of fanboys to make the game profit before it's even released sadly.

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40€ for a microtransactions filled game? nope thanks.

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I wasn't planning on playing it anyway, but if it was F2P, there was a chance I might try it. Charging for it guarantees I'll never play it.

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I would give it a shot if it was F2P. And I am not quite a fan of the genre, meh. But people will still buy it :)

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Where is the CS:GO overwatch? O.o

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With a market filled with so many games of the same type like battleborn from gearbox and f2p tf2, hopefully it wont fail like evolve.

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Eh, I suspect that the game will sell well enough to make them a tidy profit. And if it turns out to be good, it will probably be able to sustain itself, as people will keep buying it. Blizzard is still a name that holds a lot of weight.

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Yeah that is the sad part, that the name sells... not the quality. And we just talked with ZPavelZ ...and the russian price for Overwatch is 55$ for the regular version o_O

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55 USD at the Russian market? Not even they are that fanatic. They will rather put together 10 USD a piece and make hacked underground servers to play pirated versions at.

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Pretty much ;)

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You can get CSGO for 14€ and they are asking 3 times that... Then again it's blizzard, but long term it's quite a big gamble...

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and CSGO generates money from drops too

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If you get it on a sale, it's like 5$ XD. And you can get your money back if you are lucky with drops.

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