I translated your post with google-translator and I am not sure if I got a good translation.
The sentence, there were no winners means: There was a winner, but only on the paper. The axis powers lost, the allies won.
But the price was enormous. All people lost. They lost beloved firends or family members, they lost their homes and the younger people lost their youth to this horrible and cruel war.
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Yes, it is, but our Motherland doesn't started this war, and it wasn't our fault that this price had to be paid to stop it. And if you told my grandfather that his sacrifice was in vain, he would have smiled at this joke, at best.
Sorry for my english...
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Your english is good, LittleAndy.
I can understand your position and the sacrifice of your grandfather was for sure not in vain. Someone had to stop us germans. But if you would ask your grandfather, I am sure that despite the victory he also lost a lot. And for that you can say there were nor "real winners", because even the winners lost way to much.
Edit: Maybe tragedy is the right word for the whole war.
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Yes, our grandfathers, our country, all of us lost a lot. And I agree that on May 9 (namely, on May 9, people of Russia celebrate Victory Day) is a sad and sorrowful day in its own way. But for all Russian people this is both a bright holiday, a day when our grandfathers gave us the future and the right to live. Thank you for the discussion and the Victory Day!
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конечно есть русские тут. победителей и побеждённых нет ни на какой войне, если смотреть на это с точки зрения человечности, любая война - это ужасно, и "выигрыш" основан на стольких смертях, что очень сложно назвать это выигрышем в хорошем смысле этого слова. никто и не думал тут никого оскорблять, не надо так всё негативно воспринимать. наоборот, тема создалась для того, чтобы люди ещё раз вспомнили ужасы войны, какой ценой достался выигрыш и как важно ценить мирное небо над головой. с Днём Победы!:)
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bump for awesome ga and the worst tragedy ever happened to all european folks and the whole world: the tripartite pact losing the war.
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dead serious. the french revolution is the second one.
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Amazing train! Many thanks for the ride and the GAs!
Bump!
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Some folks are born, made to wave the flag
Ooo, they're red, white and blue
And when the band plays "Hail to the Chief"
Ooo, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no
Some folks are born, silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, y'all
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yeah
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no millionaire's son, no, no
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, no
Yeah, yeah
Some folks inherit star spangled eyes
Ooh, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask 'em, "How much should we give?"
Ooh, they only answer "More! More! More!", y'all
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no military son, son
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, one
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no fortunate one, one
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ugg...this is not for me I think people who like history are cool but can't bring myself to like it myself.
maybe cause it was shoved down my throat is school.
bump anyways
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Enigma meaning the enigma machine (history) or enigma meaning a train full of puzzles cause I'd like that :p
There was one train I remember where each cart had a small puzzle to complete to continue.
secret second bump
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Thank you for sharing! I hope people could really learn from the history and war only happens in these awesome games.
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Write History Group Train
Ladies and Gentleman,
today (8th May) our little group celebrates the end of The II World War in Europe.
We would like to share with you facts and games (some of them related to this war, but not necessarily).
If you are interested in history and would like to join us, then discuss with us, share some knowledge. We are open-minded, multinational and multicultural group, so don't be afraid, jump on that TRAIN and express your thoughts.
The War have had a serious consequences to what we are now, where we live and how we act. It influences us everyday, even when we do not notice that. And nowadays Europe seems to be again on crossroads, so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zed17O3vNgI
We (Vaudi and I) would like to thank all of our members for their contributions. We really appreciate it. You've done a great job.
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