Only performance, and the rest :)

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Oh boy. This is gonna be good.

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grabs popcorn

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Runs to shop and gets popcorn and a bottle of pepsi*

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Sees he has no popcorn or pepsi and runs for the hills!

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Pepsi sucks! Coca Cola rules!

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In general, nVidia has higher pixel rates and lower power consumption while AMD has higher texel rates and memory bandwidth, but the highest-end nVidia cards outperform the highest-end AMD cards.

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And, for the record, I generally prefer AMD personally.

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well I have read that the AMD 7990 GHZ Edition outruns every Nvidea cards (I dont think the Titan is included in that one.)

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7990HD is actually a 2 gpu card and it isn't out yet, there is ARESII card but its very expensive and kinda limited edition. Also titan is slower than a GTX690 but GTX690 is a 2 gpu card

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Didn't PowerColor release a 7990 card?

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So, this card doesn't exist then?

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Well not in AMD website

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I Actually mean 7970 GhZ edition, my bad. Also 7990 does exist.

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In fact 7990 outperforms any graphic card atm.

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the 7990 isn't even out FFS GUYS WHY DO YOU TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT DON'T STILL EXIST OMG!

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strangely I see DISCONTINUED...+ where the hell do you see AMD 7990 ? http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/Pages/amd-radeon-7000-series.aspx

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People have bought these cards, there are benchmarks around,and videos showing its performance .

Also, don't link me the AMD sites, they don't even show their 750k Athlon II.

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calm down dude..

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Power to the nVidia Tesla cards. +1

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Inb4 "AMD sucks cuz of drivers and they get 2 hot"

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nope

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inb4 u grow a brain

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ur so cool

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he is, he told me

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I had a couple of gtx 480s. In less than a year one of them died. It was water cooled (vendor, not modified) and not overclocked. Granted that was the 400 series, which were xbox hueg incendiary power hogs. The 670s I have now are run remarkably better.

I myself run nvidia 9 times out of 10. Better drivers, better history installing water cooling, tends to not be affected by compatibility issues (TressFX is an exception), PhysX, and I generally buy high-end to future-proof my rigs for at least 3-4 years and Nvidia high-end tends to outperform ATI on most days. Granted I have no experience with Crossfire setups.

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High end tends to outperform ATI on most days

No, thats not true, especially this gen. 7970 is pretty much on par with the 680 with the recent drivers and OCs much better.

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Well whatcha know, you're right. 7970 beats out 680, and by some rather respectable margins. Next time I'll actually bother to check if my facts are current.

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I have a 460 going strong for years, doesn't get hot, think the 480 was the exception to that series.

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I would choose AMD at this point, has both next generation consoles will include AMD GPUs, so chances are that most games will be better optimized for AMD cards.

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Good.

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You cant just discredit price, you might as well compare a preowned ford to a finally tuned Ferrari then and label it fair.

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Who cares about price if you steal it? :D

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You wouldn't download a (graphic) car(d).

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what is that? x.x

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The code for a graphics card.

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I would if I could. You can believe me on that.

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The best NVIDIA vs best AMD card then. Head to head. Fair match right?

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Nvidia, always had issues with my ATI drivers, sure I was savvy enough to figure the issues out but I rather pay a slight premium and not deal with that. Physx also looks nice in some games so thats a plus I guess depending on the person.

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PhysX is do nothing. The software engine runs almost all calculations on the CPU, no matter you have an NVidia or AMD/ATI card.

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Thats not what I heard or have seen for a matter of fact.

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Then you need to read some articles about it... PhysX is a scam by Nvidia, nothing more.

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Nvidia payed to Gearbox and 2K to integrate and advertise PhysX. Why do you think it'll run fine on AMD, when it's advertising Nvidia?
Do you ever heard of the tessellated ocean under the city in Crysis 2...?

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Oh geez, believe what you want to believe, I will go by facts and data, you can go by speculation, rumors, and conspiracy.

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Oh, yeah. Conspiracy. I said, read some articles... What I say is a fact, not conspiracy and rumor.

For example:
PhysX runs better on CPU than GPU Borderlands 2 PhysX runs better on 7970 than GTX 680
Crysis 2 tessellated water under the city when you use ATI cards

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I knew about Crysis 2 under watter deal, seems more like lazy design then anything(So it falls under speculation that Physx is a scam to anyone who is sane).

Also about that article, here, my whole point was that NOW(as in the present) Nvidia does have an advantage by having better support for Physx. Saying "PhysX is do nothing" is dumb as hell, sorry....but thats the truth.

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PhysX is a more than 10 years old, one pipeline, old chip what's doing almost nothing. It did when it's came out, but now a modern CPU is far more powerful than that. More calculations done by CPU than on the PhysX chip. It's obsolote. It seems you can't face the truth.

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The truth that Physx effects in games still work much better on Nvidia cards? I got that truth faced.

You don't seem to comprehend what I am saying....

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All games what's support PhysX is financed by Nvidia. You can't see the big picture...

PS4 will have PhysX support AND an AMD graphic card....

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You obviously can't comprehend what I am writing...

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Have a good day...done arguing with ignorance.

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You're ignoring/don't understand what I'm saying... If you pay for someone to do things for you, those things will not work correctly for your competitor... Do I need to spell it for you? Nvidia pays -> Physx effects runs fine with Nvidia cards, but not on AMD cards... This proved to be true several times in the past few years, so no speculations...

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Truth or no, does it change the fact PhysX runs better on Nvidia cards than on CPU or amd cards? NOPE. Just accept that fact and move on. Also don't argue with Hillary, she is always right. Hillary for president!

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You said it out loud - "Physx effects runs fine with Nvidia cards, but not on AMD cards" <- dis was the whole point of Hillary.

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Because the PhysX software SDK detect you have an AMD or Nvidia card and limit the accessible pipelines on CPU to 1 if detects AMD. That's the only reason. The effects of Physx runs on the CPU at 98%, not matter which card you have. And you and people like you, who never read any article what's not make a god from Nvidia, doesn't believe it... That's brainwash, nothing else. Learn to read and understand things, before believe something. Nvidia is a scammer and you are a victim...

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That's much better. You don't seem like a crackpot when you have backing for your claims. Still, what those links say is that yes, they disable on-GPU PhysX processing if there's an AMD device, but that's the most damning thing in all of it. They didn't deliberately limit PhysX on-CPU to single-thread processing. They just didn't bother multi-threading it because they run it on-GPU, so no point. They're just being lazy and letting others hassle with that. The Batman AA issue, as described in the very article, was more an issue of them adding a non-native feature to the engine and not wanting to let someone else piggyback on their work. I don't particularly like or use nVidia myself, but you try to make it sound like there's a malicious conspiracy afoot, and there's just not, and that's why you've been catching so much flak from people. In the future, try not to overstate your case and you won't meet reactions like that so often.

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So what, physx is still nvidia's technology, therefore, in order to use it to promote NVIDIA's card they can't let amd use it. Makes perfect sense to me.

Gizmodo
And what are you going to say about this article?

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AMD is far better. Less heat and less power consumption. And the price is better too. :)

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'Less heat' <- ROFL! less heat ahahahaha really?!if you compare which card will hold on longer on exactly the same power the AMD card will die a lot faster than a Nvidia one ;) if you have the money try it...you will see how easily a AMD card can be killed by the heat...

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Can I have some sources of your assumptions please?

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one of my friends had AMD video card...it generated around the same heat like my old nvidia card -> 8800 gts..this monster was staying at around 55-60 C without me doing anything :/ now I've got GTX 650 Ti and my card stays at 25-30C and when I'm playing games like Crysis 3 and BF3 it doesn't go over 45C so yeah...amd cards generate more HEAT

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comparing two random cards, doesnt prove anything, that specific card could generate a lot but the next could have even less than your 650 ti. To say something like that you need to compare similar cards together in terms of spec, price point and generation.

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Truth is both AMD and Nvidia have had hot burning cards: Example from around the same time: AMD 2900 Pro(Had one, it hit crazy temps) vs Nvidia 8800GT(These puppies use to melt on occasion, friend had one).

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I don't know if matters to you, but one of the differences is Nvidia has much better Linux support.

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The only reason why I would chose Nvidea is for ease to use PhysX instead of messing with INI files to enable it on AMD. But thats all, AMD rulez!

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Nvidia all the way, I have owned both and all of my ATI cards died after a year (but before 2). Besides, Nvidia consistently beats ATI/AMD: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

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This thing is so unreliable.

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Not so much when you look at examples with lots of samples. AMD cards are put to the same test Nvidia cards are with passmark.

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Looking at each cards baseline shows the 690 had a really low baseline for BL063059 - Mar 16 2013
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+690&id=1462
I would assume that's more of a driver issue which would hurt its score.

In general though I use the chart loosely and compare results depending on my price range (typically $200). I can safely say I have never* bought a gfx card that cost 1 grand. I also research reviews online of my card to know what I am buying. I was meaning that you shouldn't take a card with 13 samples and think it's stats are solid (like some do).

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I had 5 AMD/ATI cards and all running fine for years and do it now at the owners I sold to.

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VooDoo card user and when Nvidia bought them out I just followed and never looked back.

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ITT: A bunch of people, most of them completely clueless, saying whichever manufacturer they own is better.

Also, you can't discredit price, that doesn't make any sense in a discussion like this. Then you can just say Titan is the best, but who cares you can buy high end gaming PC with monitor for that price.

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To be fair, the phones are incredibly smart; the fuckers that own 'em...meh...

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Titan isn't actually the best performance wise, gtx 690 and radeon 7990 are a bit better than the titan. But the titan is king at the moment because people prefer single gpu cards as dual gpu cards have a lot of sli optimisation problems, not to mention it is a lot quieter and power efficient.

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Mobile versions of both suck, you can boil water on both of them when you play any new game like Crysis 3. Desktop ones - no idea, both had issues few years ago (AMD driver issues, nVidia crashed a lot). If I had to pick one it would be nVidia though...

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I don't know. My laptop is running AMD Radeon HD 7520G with 512 MB Graphics memory. Everywhere I looked it up said that it couldn't even run Borderlands 2 on low settings and I have no problems running it in medium-high with perfect framerates. Hell Far Cry 3 runs beautifully on it too

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I never said that you can't run new games. I only mentioned overheating. I have GeForce GT 555M myself, I can run BL2 on highest settings with PhysX on. But laptops will always have temperature issue due to lack of proper cooling...

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I was just responding to your comment about mobile versions sucking. Nvidia, yeah, but I love mobile Radeons. And yeah, overheating can be an issue, but I just use a laptop cooling fanpad

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If you're going for "no price comparison", it's nVidia hands down. Their stuff is just far better.
I personally go for AMD based on price though (which you don't care about)

good luck man :)

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nVidia have better performance most of the time, in recent times at least.
They also have better driver support because they release drivers more often.

I would go for nVidia :)

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I think nvida although it's a little priceier

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CoD sux

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every thread

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Nvidia has better compatibility, and has always had the better drivers, and the best stability for me so far.
ATI wins some of the top top benchmarks, but ain't no one got money for that and almost every ATI card I've ever bought has either died or overheated and suffered corruption issues.

ATI usually has a better performance per dollar ratio, but I'd rather pay a few bucks extra for a stable card.

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neither, Intel 4life

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so you like intel HD graphics? LOOOOOOOL

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Best answer +1 lol

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A few month ago I was rocking an Intel HD 3000. Now I got a good PC and rocking a 7850. Not too bad so far. Sucks I got a crappy monitor though. It's not even a monitor.. It's a TV....

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For everyday use I can't tell the difference. When it comes to gaming it depends on what the manufacturer decided to optimize the game for. I have had equal success with both cards when it comes to durability. I really makes no difference to me anyway because by the time I decide on what new video card to get there's always one that's better that comes out a short time later.

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Had problems with AMD cards... switched to nVidia and no complaints whatsoever.

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Definitely AMD.

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I prefer AMD cards myself. Better price/performance ratio. More versatile and the company ins't artificially blocking their stuff from working on other cards. (PhysX anyone?)

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You can actually run PhysX off the CPU...

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