The way the current summer cards are where you dont see individual listings. Its awkward getting used to, but I do think its better in the long run.

It also is applied to backgrounds and emotes so far.

10 years ago*

Comment has been collapsed.

While I don't dislike it, I'm not sure which is better or what consequences this will have.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

No damn market bots now, I'm happy with it!

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

well, i like it. instead of raging and spamming F5 to get a decent price on a card, now i can leave the order there and the magic happens.
also if this stops market bots, somehow, better.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

By my understanding, the commodity system and buy orders effectively mean that the market bots itself, so rather than stopping bots entirely, it evens the playing field.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yea I like that it made bots pointless, and it's convenient and a lot less stressful like Lezz said with the F5 spamming :P

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yea. I've not had many problems at all with the market since the first day of the sale. Once they put the commodity system into place, it seems to have made everything run a lot better.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

how do you make an order?

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's what the Buy button does now.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

cheapest listing getting automatically matched to the highest buy order. no more transferring money from one account to another by buying cheap stuff for 100x price

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

This is a good point, but at the same time its not implemented on other stuff like CSGO stuff (skins, crates, etc), so theres ways that can be done still.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I like it. For items that can't be modified (eg. trading cards, Dota 2 player cards), this system works wonders. But for items that can (Dota 2 cosmetics), the old system is probably better.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Just weird yet.
Maybe we will get accustomed to it soon.
I still prefer the old way. :/

Have a nice day :)

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Although old system was flawed, I'm pretty sure there'll be something with new system too...

Just look at Summer Adventure, after analysing data the rules have been altered to 3 teams.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I think that's more to do with Valve trying to garner more competition among the teams in a bid to get them to use the market more than they have been over the past few days. There hadn't been much in way of competition because once one team took the lead, there was no incentive for other teams to even continue, which led to less cards being bought and sold in the market, which led to less of a cut of the sales for Valve.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

They should have added the current request price to sell screen too...

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Deleted

This comment was deleted 3 years ago.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Good for humans, bad for the bots.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

exactly this, because you don't see where your item is at (and your sell listings only show the amount you will get, not the one you listed it at)

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

But.. buyers are sellers and sellers are buyers..

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

There are always more posts on people selling their booster/card drops. I think Buyers are Sellers, but not all Sellers are Buyers.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

New system is fine, but I'd like to know what price have I set to particular item. Because, you know, steam shows what I will get, but what price will pay buyer? The only way I see - to write down this somewhere when you set item to sell, but this is so inconvenient(

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It shows your items for sale below the BUY/SELL buttons. Scroll down after you list something.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yes, but price there is what I got, not the actual price.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I have to agree on this, I always set the price by what the buyer will pay and when I am looking my items up later I regularly get confused because I can't find my item when I am searching for the listed price.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yeah. The problem is they call both things price. But that's not true. Price is what the buyer pays. What the seller gets after fees is called profit.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

+1

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I like the new system but for my liking the two buttons for selling and buying are the wrong way around. I would put the sell button under the selling listing and vice versa.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yes, this makes sense

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

The number of card sold is going to drop.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I don't get how this new system works. Can someone please explain it to me in layman's terms? lol

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

You put offer "I'll buy item for $10".
If someone else wanted to sell it for exactly $10, you will buy it. If everyone else is selling it for $11, you're waiting in queue until someone offers it for $10.

AFAIK, you WON'T buy it if someone will put it for $9, through.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Actually, you will buy it if someone puts it for $9, and you'll pay the $9, not $10. Also, if someone offers $9, then you still get the $9 item before them.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

That's what I was thinking, but I read it in both ways.

Do you know who would buy item sold for $5 when there are offers for $7 and $8?

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

they need to make it easier to sell things through the commodity system.. having to click sell when looking up an item(to see insta sell prices based on buy offers) just to be brought to my inventory.. on the first page at that.. not even straight to that item

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yep, that really is biggest issue for me just now... And not seeing the current buy price on items in inventory.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

it is great, easy to use, smooth and fair.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

This system should not apply to TF2:hats(cuz of paints),strange weapons(cuz of strange parts),the conscientious objector(cuz of decals),etc and CSGO:all weapons except knives(cuz of stickers) and probably some Dota2 items aswell(dunno,never played that).

Why? "This item is a commodity, where all the individual items are effectively identical"

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Well, it doesn't. Hopefully there is no reason to add YET to that sentence.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Yeah on Dota 2, there are items that have kinetic gems and some that are not and they are all listed under the same item name. So buyers could either be buying items with or without those gems without knowing it, if this system is applied to them.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

But TF2 and Dota2 items have the most botting.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

"This item is a commodity, where all the individual items are effectively IDENTICAL" It's not my fault....

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Will this still work? http://ehsankia.com/steam/cards/

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Isn't the purpose to make very difficult (if not impossible) do particular payments through steam market? Although it was very profitable for Valve, converted them into a "transfer bank". So now the label is "stock market" instead of "videogames" company.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

No, I think its an effort to actually please the people because for the most part bots were snagging all the super cheap cards/items and in some/many cases putting them right back on the market for a higher price to make profit.

They would nag ones from people who didn't care and just put it up for as cheap as they could to get rid of them or from people who accidentally put .10 when they meant 1.10 or other such pricing errors.

I prefer this way now because I don't have to compete with bots, I just put in how much I am willing to pay, how many I want and if it they are put on the market and I am at the top of the queue for that price, I get the item. (least I think there is a queue, if not there should be and new people at that price get put at the back of the queue)

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Maybe some day we may read an "official explanation" on a "random interview".
I wasn't aware of bots and how they work on steam market. Thanks for the enlightenment.

But anyway stock markets have bots which do ultrafast transaction with bots operating on supercomputers installed around the building and doing millions of operations with micro-profits.
Bots will be set on any market and unbalance usual behavior by human agents.

Bots will be readapted to the new system, but won't disappear.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

There still is a listing,emotes and cards for most games previous to this summer sale still have their listings. They are using the summer cards as a way to promote the automated system.It is convenient since you can post what prices you are willing to buy/sell at and it will stop bots from snatching everything since the system itself is a bot. Also steam is aware that people use the market as a transaction system to transfer wallet between one another so the might partly doing it to get rid of that.

Lets just hope they keep the listings since automated systems cannot always be as precise as and obsessed person trying to get that item for a few cents cheaper :3

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Quite a few cards sets have moved to the new system, sets that were pre-summer sale for sure. Valve did start it on the summer sale cards and saw that it worked dramatically well and are slowly rolling it out to more of the market. It eases server traffic immensely.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Deleted

This comment was deleted 5 years ago.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I think it's great. I ended up buying at a great price for many cards.

I also was able to sell some cards at a decent price.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

I'm just glad I can get something I want without having to play "fastest gun in the west" with a painfully slow internet connection. I can just put in what I'm willing to pay, then wait and see.

I certainly didn't need the extra tension in my life.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

it was fine before

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

It's so much better now.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

That means no one can even SEE my $400 summer card? :(
joking aside, it really is a good system.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Since the commodity system was implemented on most of the cards, I've been making like a bandit on buying cheep cards.

10 years ago
Permalink

Comment has been collapsed.

Closed 10 years ago by BahDerb.