By my understanding, the commodity system and buy orders effectively mean that the market bots itself, so rather than stopping bots entirely, it evens the playing field.
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Yea I like that it made bots pointless, and it's convenient and a lot less stressful like Lezz said with the F5 spamming :P
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I like it. For items that can't be modified (eg. trading cards, Dota 2 player cards), this system works wonders. But for items that can (Dota 2 cosmetics), the old system is probably better.
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Just weird yet.
Maybe we will get accustomed to it soon.
I still prefer the old way. :/
Have a nice day :)
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I think that's more to do with Valve trying to garner more competition among the teams in a bid to get them to use the market more than they have been over the past few days. There hadn't been much in way of competition because once one team took the lead, there was no incentive for other teams to even continue, which led to less cards being bought and sold in the market, which led to less of a cut of the sales for Valve.
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New system is fine, but I'd like to know what price have I set to particular item. Because, you know, steam shows what I will get, but what price will pay buyer? The only way I see - to write down this somewhere when you set item to sell, but this is so inconvenient(
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Yes, but price there is what I got, not the actual price.
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Yeah. The problem is they call both things price. But that's not true. Price is what the buyer pays. What the seller gets after fees is called profit.
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You put offer "I'll buy item for $10".
If someone else wanted to sell it for exactly $10, you will buy it. If everyone else is selling it for $11, you're waiting in queue until someone offers it for $10.
AFAIK, you WON'T buy it if someone will put it for $9, through.
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Actually, you will buy it if someone puts it for $9, and you'll pay the $9, not $10. Also, if someone offers $9, then you still get the $9 item before them.
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they need to make it easier to sell things through the commodity system.. having to click sell when looking up an item(to see insta sell prices based on buy offers) just to be brought to my inventory.. on the first page at that.. not even straight to that item
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This system should not apply to TF2:hats(cuz of paints),strange weapons(cuz of strange parts),the conscientious objector(cuz of decals),etc and CSGO:all weapons except knives(cuz of stickers) and probably some Dota2 items aswell(dunno,never played that).
Why? "This item is a commodity, where all the individual items are effectively identical"
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Yeah on Dota 2, there are items that have kinetic gems and some that are not and they are all listed under the same item name. So buyers could either be buying items with or without those gems without knowing it, if this system is applied to them.
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Will this still work? http://ehsankia.com/steam/cards/
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Isn't the purpose to make very difficult (if not impossible) do particular payments through steam market? Although it was very profitable for Valve, converted them into a "transfer bank". So now the label is "stock market" instead of "videogames" company.
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No, I think its an effort to actually please the people because for the most part bots were snagging all the super cheap cards/items and in some/many cases putting them right back on the market for a higher price to make profit.
They would nag ones from people who didn't care and just put it up for as cheap as they could to get rid of them or from people who accidentally put .10 when they meant 1.10 or other such pricing errors.
I prefer this way now because I don't have to compete with bots, I just put in how much I am willing to pay, how many I want and if it they are put on the market and I am at the top of the queue for that price, I get the item. (least I think there is a queue, if not there should be and new people at that price get put at the back of the queue)
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Maybe some day we may read an "official explanation" on a "random interview".
I wasn't aware of bots and how they work on steam market. Thanks for the enlightenment.
But anyway stock markets have bots which do ultrafast transaction with bots operating on supercomputers installed around the building and doing millions of operations with micro-profits.
Bots will be set on any market and unbalance usual behavior by human agents.
Bots will be readapted to the new system, but won't disappear.
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There still is a listing,emotes and cards for most games previous to this summer sale still have their listings. They are using the summer cards as a way to promote the automated system.It is convenient since you can post what prices you are willing to buy/sell at and it will stop bots from snatching everything since the system itself is a bot. Also steam is aware that people use the market as a transaction system to transfer wallet between one another so the might partly doing it to get rid of that.
Lets just hope they keep the listings since automated systems cannot always be as precise as and obsessed person trying to get that item for a few cents cheaper :3
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Quite a few cards sets have moved to the new system, sets that were pre-summer sale for sure. Valve did start it on the summer sale cards and saw that it worked dramatically well and are slowly rolling it out to more of the market. It eases server traffic immensely.
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I'm just glad I can get something I want without having to play "fastest gun in the west" with a painfully slow internet connection. I can just put in what I'm willing to pay, then wait and see.
I certainly didn't need the extra tension in my life.
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The way the current summer cards are where you dont see individual listings. Its awkward getting used to, but I do think its better in the long run.
It also is applied to backgrounds and emotes so far.
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