I just wonder, I can play RPG games at 35-40fps with no problem (even 30), strategy games at 30fps but I have recently beaten Hard Reset which is a fast paced first person shooter and it was a torment to finish at 38-45fps. In multiplayer shooters I just simply cannot play below 60 fps or vsync off.

Here's a list of couple of games I play with varied FPS values:

  • Skyrim (High, 2xAA) 35-40 fps (60+ indoors)
  • Fallout series (High 2xAA) 45-60 fps
  • TF2 (Max, 4xAA) 60+ fps
  • Hard Reset (max, 2xAA) 38-45 fps
  • Civilization V (max( 40-50 fps
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Before upgrading my PC 30 FPS in any game (except fast online shooters like COD or Tribes ) was perfect.

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im not that much of a gaming snob, but i pretty much need 45 minimum for everything.

console gamers are so lucky that they all think 30fps is the max the eye can see :(

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Hmm, don't have any examples. Unless the game is a turn-based or pausable thing where the fps is not so important, my preference is 60 fps @ native resolution with all the whatevers turned on. When that's not possible, first try is reducing AA, or the whatevers that are making the game slow. When that's not enough, lower the resolution. And when that's not enough, guess it's time to upgrade. :)

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Singleplayer: 45 FPS average. Multiplayer: 60 FPS minimum.

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More than 35 fps is good for me :|

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45-120.

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I played TR 2013 at 25 FPS. Because I wanted to play it at max graphics with max hair.

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Didn't know that you're into hair.

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60 minimum.

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Anything 30FPS and over is good for me. As long as it doesn't dip below that its fine. Technically the human eye only needs it to be over 24fps to see smooth motion. Some people say they can see a difference, and I guess it is possible but everyone I know seems to be ok as long as the video is over 30fps in games.

Only reason to have games go way above 30fps is to make sure when there is a heavy load on the cpu/gpu that it doesn't dip below that 24/30 fps.

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Unplayable <25> Playable

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I think you may have to change the direction of the right one.

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No, it would be the left one.

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If it was the left one then boxanata would be saying that FPS above 25 is unplayable for them.

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Guys, hes obviously saying he only wants to play at 25 FPS.

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+1

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I have the best computer ever. Beat Bioshock Infinite with 12fps the entire time. Not kidding...

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i know, i like playing with 10 fps and pretend i m in the matrix

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<50 - Unplayable

50-80 - Acceptable

80+ - Butter

Any FPS ever.

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Depends on what games and if your playing with a mouse or a gamepad.

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On my old Pentium 4 I used to play ME2 and League at 20 FPS.

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Under 20, can't play. Around 30, basically what I get when I play a high graphics game. Above 40, not bad. 50, really good, and it's the best I'm going to get on this computer. 60 and over, almost flawless. Only happens when I play low graphics games.

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Singleplayer games = Anything below 30-40 is unacceptable.

Multiplayer games = Always need to get more than 80fps.

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Do you have a 120hz monitor?

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Depends on the game.

Some games run really smooth even if they're at below 30, they don't cause additional eye strain and are a joy to play even at 20-30 because you can't tell that it's got poor FPS which is an awesome feature.
But some games cause severe eye fatigue even at 30-60fps+ and makes it feel like it runs on 20fps or lower :/

Generally for me 30+ is ok for single player games, for multiplayer 60+ to be enjoyable... the only multiplayer game that comes to mind wihch has a good minimum FPS for me is Loadout, 42 is the lowest I saw while there were stuff flying everywhere, usually it's around 100.

Also, having a constant FPS is alot better than having bigger max FPS... like I do :/ I have really extreme ranges of FPS in some games, mainly source games, usually from 15 to 150.
And it's also generally better to limit your FPS to your monitor's refresh rate.

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I get nauseous with a sub 60 frame rate :L

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No you don't. You can't even tell if it lower than 60 without some software telling you that it is.

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Yeah you can. Or at least I can. I'm not claiming I'm special, so I'd imagine that there many others that can tell the difference as well.

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Enlighten us, what is the difference between 60 FPS and 54 FPS?

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There's a clearly visible difference in fluidity. If you're expecting me to be able to explain it, you're barking up the wrong tree. It'd be like explaining the color red to a blind person.

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I'm going to assume that no one noticed a difference when they showed The Hobbit in 48 frames instead of 24.

oh wait, the DID!


Of course, it's more than that. A seasoned gamer will (or should, almost) feel the difference, when playing with a precision mouse, because a higher framer rate allows for more precision and movements will feel sluggish with a low frame rate. Maybe you're fine with 30 frames on a console with a joypad with lots of motion blur but you'll not want to play Counter Strike like that (ie there is a reason why Counter Strike players often want 120hz). Personally, 120 is a bit unnecessary for me.

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Are you one of those guys who believe the human eye can only see 24 fps? :x

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No, I don't think he means that. There is no argument about still image framerate at 60 per sec is much smoother than at 24. However, I don't think you can really tell the difference between 60fps and 54fps as he said above. Also, all fps here I mean constant fps, not variable fps.

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No, I'm one of those who knows that eyes don't work with frames at all.

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Next you'll tell us that FoV doesn't matter.

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in a fast paced multiplayer like TF2 I can easily tell if it's fluid 60 fps or less. In any game I can notice a difference in fast paced situations, and I can also feel a general "choppiness" below 35 fps.

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Imagine yourself staring at a wall in a fast paced multiplayer game like TF2. Would you be able to tell the difference between 60 FPS and 35 FPS if all you could see was that wall and nothing else?

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Really? That's your argument? Well of course no one can tell the difference at that point, because there's absolutely zero motion on the screen... and that also has absolutely nothing to do with the original point of the thread.

Notice he said "playable" framerate. Staring at a wall is not the same as playing a game.

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No, my argument is about perception. People who claim they can see the difference most likely play without motion blur and DOF. As a result they see a lot of sharp and crisp objects and perceive it as stuttering.

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fun fact: low frame rate causes motion blur too, so higher speed videos are more crisp.

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I'd like to meet these mysterious people that perceive sharp and crisp objects as stuttering. They sound like a really interesting bunch.

I'd also like to take the drugs they must be on as well.

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Apparently you are one. So you can just look in the mirror.

The reason why they are perceived as stuttering is because you see much more discrete details as opposed to more fluid motion when the image is blurred and details are concealed.

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So... games without crappy filters like motion blur and depth of field look laggy when their framerate is below 60 because of more detail being present in the scene for us to judge by.

I'm sorry, how is this any different from what we've been saying?

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Well yeah, motion blur etc is shit... obviously I always try to disable them :p

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Atleast I can't. I only notice low framerates if its below 25...

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Usually around 40FPS average is okay for me.

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Atleast 50 fps for most games, 60 for FPS. For MMO's or so I can live with 30 but if possible I prefer it a tad higher.

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I've played games with frame rates under 10. It certainly isn't a good experience, but you can sometimes still achieve things at that level.

I played WoW for quite a while where I would drop below 5 FPS in raids, and when Planetside 2 came out I only got ~15 FPS in larger fights.

If we're talking about enjoyable frame rates, if it's steady and over 30 I can enjoy the game well enough, although I prefer a solid 60. I've never used a monitor with any higher refresh rate, so I have yet to experience the glory of 120 FPS.

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I wouldn't know, I play video games for the game itself. I don't get off on watching my frames increase above the level of what a human eye can even process.

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Playable FPS is the one that doesn't fluctuate too drastic. Be it 10, 30 or 120 it doesn't matter.

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10 fps is not playable though....

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If it is constant 10 FPS it is playable. It is jerky because it's lower than the difference between a bunch of static images and a motion for a human eye, but it is playable.

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For the human eye 25 FPS is really like the rule of thumb, because that's usually the FPS that movies and television shows use (or used to use)

For me I guess more is better, but beyond 60 I think it's just unnecessary. With the exception of FPS (multiplayer) games like BF3 or TF2, but I don't have to worry about lag on these games anyway since I have an HD 7950.

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Movies aren't in 24 frames per second because of how the eye works or doesn't work.

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It's a matter of historical record that a bunch of factors went into film running at 24fps. It just stuck as a standard because it was basically the minimum required to not look shitty. If the cost of film hadn't been so high, as well as a bunch of other technological limitations, it's very likely that 24 wouldn't be the standard.

One additional reason that 24p has stuck for so long is that during the analog TV era it was necessary to have a format that converted well to both 50hz PAL and 60hz NTSC. 24p does that remarkably well (although still with huge problems).

Basically, don't buy into this 24p bullshit. That's like looking at a falling down house made by the lowest bidder and saying "this is the best a house can be."

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40 fps I am comfortable with, although I should be playing games at 60fps to get my money's worth. Anything below 40fps I will turn down settings until I reach 40 minimum.

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